Sentry vs Hank Henshaw

Started by Avlon19 pages

Originally posted by llagrok
Sentry's mind isn't unstable WHEN he is the Sentry, that's the whole point. Sentry represents Robert's confidence so to speak, so I doubt the Willhunters would be able to break him.

I don't think attacking his mind through telepathy would work either. This is the man whose telepathy was capable of making EVERYONE on Earth forget about him. That includes the strongest telepaths and so on.

I've seen Sentry fairly unstable. Hal who has one of the strongest wills in DC had a hell of a time with them even with some help...and Borg wasn't attacking him while he fought them off. In a pis free battle environment...Borg would attack while the Willhunters either overtake or occupy Sentry.

The telepathic plug won't do much to Sentry, but it could give Henshaw more ammo to mess with Sentry's mind. Though he might actually like that instability as insane as he is himself.

i still dont think its enough as sentry's mind is to strong and he is physically without flaw. he would have the means to handle henshaw just as i feel superman has in the past.

Originally posted by Avlon
I've seen Sentry fairly unstable. Hal who has one of the strongest wills in DC had a hell of a time with them even with some help...and Borg wasn't attacking him while he fought them off. In a pis free battle environment...Borg would attack while the Willhunters either overtake or occupy Sentry.

The telepathic plug won't do much to Sentry, but it could give Henshaw more ammo to mess with Sentry's mind. Though he might actually like that instability as insane as he is himself.

We don't know whether or not RR would be able to operate a ring, so comparing him to Hal doesn't work :/

The Eradicator is physically without flaw as well, and is as powerful as Sentry physically. Henshaw has beaten him.

Ultron is not as powerful as Henshaw and had a great showing against Sentry.
Henshaw>Ultron.

Borg ftw.

I already stated numerous ways he could win..and there are more.

Originally posted by llagrok
We don't know whether or not RR would be able to operate a ring, so comparing him to Hal doesn't work :/
i agree with this statement.

Originally posted by llagrok
We don't know whether or not RR would be able to operate a ring, so comparing him to Hal doesn't work :/

I'm not sure how this applies?

I was referring to their willpower.

Originally posted by Avlon
I'm not sure how this applies?

I was referring to their willpower.

has does have considerable willpower but we dont know how it would effect sentrys will. we really cant just say it would work on him or not. but i see ur point.

Originally posted by Avlon
The Eradicator is physically without flaw as well, and is as powerful as Sentry physically. Henshaw has beaten him.

Ultron is not as powerful as Henshaw and had a great showing against Sentry.
Henshaw>Ultron.

Borg ftw.

I already stated numerous ways he could win..and there are more.

We haven't seen the full extent of the current Ultron's power, so that is just speculation.

Nor do you know whether the Sentry is stronger/weaker than a traditional kryptonian.

imo sentry is stronger than superman. i feel marvel made him to be more powerful than supes. he doesnt have supes weaknesses that have always held him back.

Originally posted by llagrok
We haven't seen the full extent of the current Ultron's power, so that is just speculation.

Nor do you know whether the Sentry is stronger/weaker than a traditional kryptonian.

What we have seen of Ultron's power put's him on level with enhanced Metallo.
Even with that...Sentry had problems.

And nothing has been shown to put Sentry physically (strengh wise) on level with the powered kryptonians we've seen.

Erads and Sentry have quite a bit in common - Both are "Superman level," Both has energy powers that are stated far above what's been seen, and both have personality issues.

Originally posted by Avlon
What we have seen of Ultron's power put's him on level with enhanced Metallo.
Even with that...Sentry had problems.

And nothing has been shown to put Sentry physically (strengh wise) on level with the powered kryptonians we've seen.

Erads and Sentry have quite a bit in common - Both are "Superman level," Both has energy powers that are stated far above what's been seen, and both have personality issues.

We've seen Ultron fight in one issue, where she stalemated Sentry. That's all we have.

Originally posted by Avlon
What we have seen of Ultron's power put's him on level with enhanced Metallo.
Even with that...Sentry had problems.

And nothing has been shown to put Sentry physically (strengh wise) on level with the powered kryptonians we've seen.

Erads and Sentry have quite a bit in common - Both are "Superman level," Both has energy powers that are stated far above what's been seen, and both have personality issues.

kryptonians have weaknesses while sentry really has none.

Originally posted by llagrok
We've seen Ultron fight in one issue, where she stalemated Sentry. That's all we have.

And in that issue, "she" had Metallo like powers.

Definitely nothing to compare to Henshaws.

Originally posted by Avlon
And in that issue, "she" had Metallo like powers.

Definitely nothing to compare to Henshaws.

Who ever claimed that it was comparable to Hank's powers?

I simply stated that some of your points were based off speculation.

Originally posted by llagrok
Who ever claimed that it was comparable to Hank's powers?

I simply stated that some of your points were based off speculation.

I'm stating from what's been shown.

You're stating "with more material, they may be more powerful."

With time, power levels could change for better or worse..

Currently, things stand just fine.

As anyone who's been in Henshaw's respect thread knows, Henshaw no longer has the biological weaknesses that other kryptonians do.

2nd, slugging it out with Henshaw is next to useless. He can restructure his body at a moment's notice.

Show me a scan of Sentry doing something other than slugging it out.

Actually, I'd like to see one scan that puts him on Superman's level, let alone someone who's one-shotted Supes.

People can talk about Ultron stalemating Sentry, and some have even tried to compare the new Ultron to Henshaw. The new Ultron has no chance against Henshaw. Henshaw's powers make Extremis look like a toy.

As Henshaw himself described it, he is a rapist of machines. And he can modify himself to use tech from anywhere he's been. The Source Wall is probably the only thing he can't dupe. I fail to see how Sentry takes even a single win here. srsly Almost everything Sentry brings to the table, Henshaw has in greater abundance and he can make a weapon to beat Sentry, as he's done to countless others.

cyborg takes a diagnosis of sentry's body and finds his weakness and creates a weapon to beat the crap out of him. With his weakness exploited sentry's hype goes way down and he becomes a normal hero . . . thank god (or henshaw)

Cyborg wins a good 7/10 if not more. Hes a monster. He brings a kind of visciousness to the table that Sentry hasnt dealt with. Even in a straight up fight without using a buncha outside Tech Cyborg should take him. I'd say Sentry's only chances are to pull the old Vibrating fist throug the chest routine (eeew?) or someone fly Hank into space and bfr him. Neither seems likely though.

Originally posted by redhotrash
Cyborg wins a good 7/10 if not more. Hes a monster. He brings a kind of visciousness to the table that Sentry hasnt dealt with. Even in a straight up fight without using a buncha outside Tech Cyborg should take him. I'd say Sentry's only chances are to pull the old Vibrating fist throug the chest routine (eeew?) or someone fly Hank into space and bfr him. Neither seems likely though.

the fist trick won't work on Henshaw now. At the time, he was still affected by K-nite, and the k-nite was blocking his powers from working.

and btw, just wanted to add Sentry himself didn't use telepathy to make everyone forget...it was a machine that him and Reed designed and Cloc transmitted.

please END this hype 😬