Dictatorships

Started by Fishy3 pages
Originally posted by Tptmanno1
But the alternative is still historically more beneficial.
How many good monarchs were there? A handful at most, Democracy and other forms of representational government have had a much longer history of success, from ancient Greece to the multitude of governments that utilize it now?
I'm not a blind supporter of "the american way" or any of that bullshit, I just know that a form of representation is better than the alternatives.

Not true, if you look at the Dutch history, with whose Royal family I am most familiar, you would see that when they were still the most powerful people in the country (technically not kings but as good as) most of them were loved. In 300 years, only 3 were not loved and removed from office. Seeing as they weren't kings this was quite a bit easier. The state could choose not to recognize their power any longer. Three times in 300 years isn't really that often. And there descendants were always called back because they were important enough.

Our first real king wasn't a mediocre king in popularity, but form that moment on most if not all have been popular. Of course sing our first real king we have been somewhat of a democracy but still.

Other kings have been popular in almost every nation in the world. However sometimes one of them ****s up and it usually ends up putting a bad name on the entire line, but if you see how long certain lines of English/German/French/Spanish royalty lasted you would see that many of them were indeed quite popular or at least good leaders who managed to do things with their country that no leader today could.

And that's the weakness of a democracy, it's limited in form time and power and thus no big chances can happen. Not for good or for the better. A king or a dictator can do those things, downside is that if they want to do bad things they are a bit harder to stop then a democratic government.

Would a kind and intelligent absolute dictator be preferable to any other form of government or rule?

Absolutely.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Libertarian governments didn't really get any chances now did they?
I don't think they will. In a democracy we lend a government the power to look after the citizens, libertarian governments use hardly any power. So why vote for a government that isn't going to help you?

Originally posted by lord xyz
I don't think they will. In a democracy we lend a government the power to look after the citizens, libertarian governments use hardly any power. So why vote for a government that isn't going to help you?
Because it would be a government that doesn't oppress you.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Because it would be a government that doesn't oppress you.
Why can't it help you as well?

Originally posted by lord xyz
Why can't it help you as well?
How would it be possible?

Government being very socialis in that it has lots of services, but also libertarian in that those who do not wish to be a part of certain services, don't have to be. So if you would rather not pay health tax and pay when you get sick, you can. It would also be a way of not people voting about whether gays should marry, instead, those who are for gay marriage should have it legalised, and those who oppose should keep it illegal (within a district or constituency).

I believe this is similar to that of neo-liberalism and social democracy.

Originally posted by lord xyz
Government being very socialis in that it has lots of services, but also libertarian in that those who do not wish to be a part of certain services, don't have to be. So if you would rather not pay health tax and pay when you get sick, you can. It would also be a way of not people voting about whether gays should marry, instead, those who are for gay marriage should have it legalised, and those who oppose should keep it illegal (within a district or constituency).

I believe this is similar to that of neo-liberalism and social democracy.

How would it be a government then though? It's basically libertarian then, people in a libertarian country can choose to get together and pay for health care if they want.

Originally posted by Bardock42
How would it be a government then though? It's basically libertarian then, people in a libertarian country can choose to get together and pay for health care if they want.
Yes, I keep forgetting that that's not government.

Originally posted by lord xyz
Yes, I keep forgetting that that's not government.
I sincerely hope you aren't being sarcastic.