Ryu(SF) vs. KOSMOS with a Twist

Originally posted by Usual Suspect
I would also like to add that Pyron can be hit because he chose to conform to terrestrial combat. Pyron can be absorbed by kosmos but not before Pyron absorbs her. And his capacity to absorb is far greater i.e. Hellstorm and the countless solar systems in him.

Not to mention Pyron can travel at light speeds and beyond, seeing as how he crossed the universe in several million years, but it takes light several BILLION years to reach our planet from just a dozen galaxies away. Not that Pyron needs to travel light speed seeing as how he can teleport.

his durability and his statistics are hyperbole to thin that jsut because he weakened himself it means his speed and every other attribute, the only obvious weakness is that hes humanoid and not planet size, thats the only thing that can be confirmed, everything else is hyperbole or void, unless ofcourse proven otherwise.

well thats another one isnt it, another anomoly, crossing the universe in several million years, thats actually not true, the way ive been told by others is that he took 65 million years and travled the universe, its unkown how large the universe is in DS unvierse, let alone at this part of time, hell Earth scientists dont know the exact size, also we dont know a great many things, simply traveling from the edges of the universe, the fact the universe doesnt have an edge is also apparent and has to be considered. Theres also the fact that even IF he can move at said speeds....not in battle he cannot, he has never shown it, and in battle, in OVA and gameplay has it never been spoken off nor has it been shown, he moves at normal speeds. And on Earth once again dont keep blaming it on Hyperbole and things we dont actually know, unless...it can be proven.

Originally posted by Burning thought
beam attacks? hes never shown eating beams of his enemies

Originally posted by Burning thought
they may not harm him physically but the blast radious of her Teriory weapon system could very likely quench him as much as it quenches suns and stuff like that

Originally posted by Burning thought
Sun? hell no..hes never shown it, Hellstorm would be tiny in comparison to Earths sun, let alone a red giant or such, as gears has stated the size in comparison to the sun and planets is incredible, it would take thousands of Hellstorms to fill the sun. [QUOTE=9632474]Originally posted by Burning thought
[B]Hellstorm was like a baskett ball to him and that was SEVERAL MILLION years ago. Pyron has eaten enough planets to equal up to a couple galaxies if not more, I think he's far larger then a sun in his true form.

[QUOTE=9632474]Originally posted by Burning thought
[B]his size means alot, those who claim him galaxy size argue he could jsut punch her, and absorb her? Pyron absorbs life and energy, She is a robot and has no life and her energy is only in her weaponry unless someone can say otherwise.

Pyron will absorb all the energies she uses for attacks and reduce her to a normal android, then he smashes her.

Or, He could just absorb her energy and body cuz he absorbed hellstorm and that's just an object with energy in it, just like Kosmos.

Planets have many types of energy, various weather systems, things like that, not to menstion the time it takes pyron to do it, is never known, fans seem to orgasm he absorbs instantly, nothing so far shows this, the comic alone shows he devasates the place a bit first and then charged up and fires a beam from his chest.

He eats energy is true, but hes never odne it to a projectile, the guy wont be able to absorb a blast thats going to hit him incredible quickly, hes got the choices of either teleporting OR he can try and absorb but get hit by the blast and be thrown, condensed, if he can be hit, he can be thrown. If the energy can snuff out a sun, pyrons not going to be too much of a diffrence in his makup in comparison.

as i said, Pyrons absorbtion could be more powerful, but faster? ime not so sure, and no proof states he is so fast.

This has nothing to do with Pyron you moaning toddler. Stop crying about how you think Pyron would beat KOS-MOS. That isn't even the point of this thread. Secondly all you're doing is making your fanboyism apparent in your posts.

Originally posted by Burning thought
instantaneous is a relative term, and is in some point hyperbole, instantenous to one being i.e the one who moves lightspeed compared to the one who only goes bullet speed theres a large diffrence, but to the view of the ones who cannot go either speed, a bullet is instant wouldnt you agree? a bullet to the human eye looks like its instantly hitting, especially at close range...

What your describing is a matter of perspective of two moving objects. I'm talking about the physics of teleportation. . .It is instantaneous because one does not travel between points in order to reach a destination. Your not treading a meridian between point A to point B. Your actually just going from point A to point B just like that. . .Time/Space is irrelevant.

Originally posted by Burning thought

watch this Video, at 1:31 pyron does a shield envelope, this is no means instant is it, his shield takes at least a second to cover Demitri, teleporting aside, to bring his field up to teleport someone else would show he would have higher difficulty is trapping a being in a shield.

second point is 2:06-2:07 when he teleports to kick the robot, there is a relative split second-second amount of time for him to appear much like when he disapears in 1.31, this would show he is not actually going as instant as one would belive

Yes, it has a start up a time, so? How does that change the fact that pyron does not travel through space in order to reach his destination?
With Time/Space there is not speed. . .teleportation on the other hand is not governed by Space/Time. Furthermore, even if she's as fast as light. That's her traveling speed, not her fighting speed. . .big diffference.

Originally posted by Fire Ninja
What your describing is a matter of perspective of two moving objects. I'm talking about the physics of teleportation. . .It is instantaneous because one does not travel between points in order to reach a destination. Your not treading a meridian between point A to point B. Your actually just going from point A to point B just like that. . .Time/Space is irrelevant.

Yes, it has a start up a time, so? How does that change the fact that pyron does not travel through space in order to reach his destination?
With Time/Space there is not speed. . .teleportation on the other hand is not governed by Space/Time. Furthermore, even if she's as fast as light. That's her traveling speed, not her fighting speed. . .big diffference.

okie i agree, once Teleportation happens, its instantenous (although this can differ depending on the way of teleportation) but i was stabbing at the fact Pyrons start up time is what i was thinking on, he wont have the time to do it, such as absorb or one of his high powered moves, she outlcasses him in all ways he could possibly defeat her and yet has enough firepower to likely be able to hit him and destroy/fumble it. Absorbtion is the most dependant factor, the speed at which it happens.

Originally posted by Burning thought
Planets have many types of energy, various weather systems, things like that, not to menstion the time it takes pyron to do it, is never known, fans seem to orgasm he absorbs instantly, nothing so far shows this, the comic alone shows he devasates the place a bit first and then charged up and fires a beam from his chest.

Is that not almost instantly?

Originally posted by Burning thought
He eats energy is true, but hes never odne it to a projectile

BECAUSE HE FOUGHT IN A HUMANOID FORM!

Originally posted by Burning thought
the guy wont be able to absorb a blast thats going to hit him incredible quickly

Yes he will

Originally posted by Burning thought
hes got the choices of either teleporting OR he can try and absorb but get hit by the blast and be thrown, condensed, if he can be hit, he can be thrown.

Or he can over power her by usein his FAR GREATER absorbin abilities, absorbin her in the process.

Originally posted by Burning thought If the energy can snuff out a sun, pyrons not going to be too much of a diffrence in his makup in comparison. [/B]

Suns can not fight back or intentionally absorb incoming objects unlike Pyron.

If Pyron can absorb hell storm while there are still creatures on it, he can EASILY absorb kosmos.

Originally posted by Burning thought
as i said, Pyrons absorbtion could be more powerful, but faster? ime not so sure, and no proof states he is so fast.

Considering how much Pyron can absorb in a short amount of time compared to what kosmos can absorb period, no matter how long it takes. Pyrons's is faster.

Originally posted by shin_gear
This has nothing to do with Pyron you moaning toddler. Stop crying about how you think Pyron would beat KOS-MOS. That isn't even the point of this thread. Secondly all you're doing is making your fanboyism apparent in your posts.

Originally posted by Burning thought
okie i agree, once Teleportation happens, its instantenous (although this can differ depending on the way of teleportation) but i was stabbing at the fact Pyrons start up time is what i was thinking on, he wont have the time to do it, such as absorb or one of his high powered moves, she outlcasses him in all ways he could possibly defeat her and yet has enough firepower to likely be able to hit him and destroy/fumble it. Absorbtion is the most dependant factor, the speed at which it happens.

His start up time is a fraction of a second. Really I have not seen any of KOS-MOS attacks that start up that fast. Unless your referring to her ballistic based weapons which are useless here.

Originally posted by Usual Suspect
Go away you hating ass fanboy

I'm taking you off my ignore list. hug

Wow has this been derailed.

I thought everyone agreed, that KOS-MOS can beat Pyron, just not Jedah?

I have said it once and I will not say it again.

Quit all the hostility and namecalling. If it continues, all involved will be getting warnings and the thread will be closed.

Originally posted by Triple Six
Wow has this been derailed.

I thought everyone agreed, that KOS-MOS can beat Pyron, just not Jedah?

Pyron is stronger: Due to the fact that he can smash planets with is barehands

He is faster: Teleportation

He's smarter: He can learn kosmos just by watching her for a few moments.

Far more durable: She has no means to hurt him.

etc.

Pyron all the way!

Originally posted by Lana
I have said it once and I will not say it again.

Quit all the hostility and namecalling. If it continues, all involved will be getting warnings and the thread will be closed.

Discuss it in the KOS-MOS vs. Pyron thread, not that those points haven't been refuted months ago. You really have to stick arguing something irrelevant in one topic because you've been doing so for long?

LoL.

Pyron can smash planets with his barehands....when has he done this?

Again with all the assumptions.

We want feats.

I could just sitback and say Kos-Mos will blast half the universe for the win in every fight, yet I do not...eventhough SHE HAS AN ACTUAL FEAT DISPLAYING THAT ABILITY.

Originally posted by Superboy Prime
LoL.

Pyron can smash planets with his barehands....when has he done this?

He can grow the size of a planet and his energy output plus the gravity created through his titanic mass can destroy a planet.

And yet his galaxy level sized gravity field will not **** him up?

Real life physics + video games fiction don't mix too well.

Originally posted by Superboy Prime
And yet his galaxy level sized gravity field will not **** him up?

Real life physics + video games fiction don't mix too well.

He's not galaxy sized, where is that coming from. Also, why would his own gravity field mess him up?

I don't see why physics can not be used. it's a great way to dictate the mechanics of a fight.

V2D's constant reminded og Pyron's size is beginning to brainwash me...

Pyron's never been that huge. True.

Íts a nice way of dictating how a fight would go, but its not concrete because in fiction physics are completely abused.