Darkseid vs Silver Surfer

Originally posted by Galan007
Any instances where DS may have used Omega Powers since Superman trapped him on the SW were,

A.) Either not Omega Powers, [in the literal sense]..

or..

B.) Were retconned.

Those are the only two possibilities. 🙂

What about all the "reality warping" and all that other junk that DS was supposed to be doing recently? Did he just not do that now since they're making him out to be a brick?

Originally posted by Avlon
I thought the same but it probably wasn't the OE.

Without the OE, he does have eyeblasts that are basically plain ol' heat vision.

And just so you guys know, I'm not disputing any of this with you. I'm not denying the current situation or anything I'm just agitated at the fact that the writers at DC have the IQ of a bag of hammers.

Retcons are part of comics. Nothing is written in stone in any comic Universe. Look at Wondermans sudden reversion to his 1970's powerset but with flight. What's that all about? Continuity and Comics do not mix. It's been tried.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Oh Mother of God....

What about all the "reality warping" and all that other junk that DS was supposed to be doing recently? Did he just not do that now since they're making him out to be a brick?

I remember his eyebeams doing the zig zag thing to hit the Joker(who was standing behind DS), that seems to be a far cry from heatvision.

And just so you guys know, I'm not disputing any of this with you. I'm not denying the current situation or anything I'm just agitated at the fact that the writers at DC have the IQ of a bag of hammers.

😂 Maybe thats all part of his normal powers.

Or perhaps it actually has been retconned (poorly retconned)

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
😂 Maybe thats all part of his normal powers.

Or perhaps it actually has been retconned (poorly retconned)

Very poorly.

Maybe there will be a better explanation shortly. We'll see. 🙂.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Oh Mother of God....

What about all the "reality warping" and all that other junk that DS was supposed to be doing recently? Did he just not do that now since they're making him out to be a brick?

srug

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
😂 Maybe thats all part of his normal powers.

Or perhaps it actually has been retconned (poorly retconned)

In comics why even bother hiding retcons. Continuity is constantly in a state of flux. I seem to remember the autor of the MArvel Universe telling Reed Richards that.

Originally posted by Galan007
Everything DS has done since his stint on the SW still happened, [ie. these events haven't been retconned from DC continuity]... But said displays of power have evidently been retconned into not being classified as part of Darky's "Omega Powers"... Just his "standard" powerset.

srug

Originally posted by Zebedee
Retcons are part of comics, who would have thought basic wrestling 101 was enough to overcome the power cosmic.

Now Tito Ortiz knows he can put the Surfer in an armlock anytime he wants.

Guess Surfer would get pwned in "Dead or Alive 4." 😎

Originally posted by Avlon
Guess Surfer would get pwned in "Dead or Alive 4." 😎

Only if he were fighting Zack. 😐.

Originally posted by darthgoober
so how can those be his normal powers? If they were, he'd still have them...

It would seem that all DC did was make abilities like those, part of Darkseid's 'standard' powerset.

Originally posted by Avlon
Guess Surfer would get pwned in "Dead or Alive 4." 😎

😛 😛 😎

🙂

Originally posted by darthgoober
And just so you guys know, I'm not disputing any of this with you. I'm not denying the current situation or anything I'm just agitated at the fact that the writers at DC have the IQ of a bag of hammers.

Oh, I agree about the stupidity of the situation.

Basically, DC has dug themselves into a hole where they now have to explain what is omega powered and what isn't.

Even with the zig zag thing though, DS has used the beams as HV. Maybe he can't erase things from existence anymore? Control life and death?

I'll leave that to the new god fans. Perhaps they can offer far better insight than my limited knowledge on that subject.

Originally posted by Galan007
He must have some sort of power.... How else do you explain him recently doing things like disintegrating beings via eye-beams, or amping up Kalibak to insane levels, or pwning Mr. Miracle, Orion, and FS with a gesture, or how about literally removing Professor Stein from the Firestorm Matrix?

It would seem that all DC did was make abilities like those, part of Darkseid's 'standard' powerset.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
At this moment DS is almost completely powerless except for being big and strong. When he was in the SourceWall the Omega power was mostly drained out of him, so now Dessad is going to get HighFather's staff from in the wall and give it to DS (which seems odd since HF was supposed to be the only one that knows how to use it)

Originally posted by darthgoober
Is what SC said here accurate or not...

Originally posted by Galan007
Not entirely, [due to aforementioned reasons, which are still very much in continuity].

Originally posted by Galan007
He must have some sort of power.... How else do you explain him recently doing things like disintegrating beings via eye-beams, or amping up Kalibak to insane levels, or downing Mr. Miracle, Orion, and FS with a gesture, or how about literally removing Professor Stein from the Firestorm Matrix?

It would seem that all DC did was make abilities like those, part of Darkseid's 'standard' powerset.

I was the one that called that Darkseid lost the Omega though.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Did they actually say that DS was completely drained of the Omega on the Source Wall or just that he was drained and weakened?

Originally posted by Juntai
I think the Superman/Batman story is taking place at a different time, maybe?
Not sure.

About that radion thing, I think it only works on the weaker New gods and those that wield a mother box can resist it. Ds doesn't need a mother box, a matter a fact he has been shown to create them with his own power. So I don't think that will give Surfer upper hand, in any way, especially against one of the most powerful New Gods.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Is what SC said here accurate or not...

No, he's a dumbass and prone to exaggeration.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
No, he's a dumbass and prone to exaggeration.

Cosigned.

That douche!

😠.