Originally posted by Remindme1. I don't think Cloud wins, but I respect your opinion.
Personally i think:Cloud Beats Ganondorf
Cloud is defeated by Xemnas
Ryu loses to Xemnas
Dante beats Xemnas
Dante loses to Sephiroth
Malygos ? Sephiroth, not sure how magic resistant Sephiroth is
Malygos ? Kain, Don't know how magic resistant Kain is
2. I agree.
3. Agreed.
4. I don't know, it could go either way.
5. No, Dante is way to fast for Seph, a mostly melee attacker, to beat him.
Depends if Ganon is smart enough to use some of that major mojo he has, no contest. If he tries to go for sword play i think cloud could hold out long enough to use Omnislash.
Nah Sephiroth makes Xemnas look like he wields a 500 pound hammer, He'd be too fast for Dante.
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Is there a video of Dante's speed that i haven't seen? i saw him fight his brother... but i'd says sephiroth is faster from that, maybe if there's one i haven't seen....
Originally posted by RemindmeGanon's power is greatly downplayed in gameplay, if he went all out, he'd be teleing all over, turning intangible to escape blows and get one of his own, combining magic with swordplay, flying while using his sword, and other stuffs.
Depends if Ganon is smart enough to use some of that major mojo he has, no contest. If hey tries to go for sword play i think cloud could hold out long enough to use Omnislash.Nah Sephiroth makes Xemnas look like he wields a 500 pound hammer, He'd be too fast for Dante.
EDIT: Dante is WAAAAAAAAAAAY faster than Seph.
Originally posted by RemindmeI can't provide links for Dante as I would not know where to find them, but Dante while swordfighting Vergil in rain were so fast, that the only time the rain touched them was when the locked blades.
The Crisis Core video to me makes Sephiroth look faster and more skilled than Dante.Not to mention those mean blade beams he uses
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Who's faster?
We never see Sephiroth fully exert himself, but something ppl on this board has trouble realizing is, speed alone will not win you battles, speed is just one thing, Sephiroth has been stated above Chaos, Weiss, and other speed demons.
Sephiroth isn't as slow as people think he is, with his will power alone, he can do just about anything, he even refused to merge with the lifestream during FFVII, and reformed his body in the northern crater, and with his will power he was able to walk through walls, appear out of no where and do just about anything.
And Dante is not "WAAAAAY" faster then seph, if you watch Seph in KH, he teleports everywhere, and can slash like 30 times in less then a second, and Seph's sword range is surprisingly HUGE, its not only just the length of his sword, but its even longer then that, when he slashes it cuts through whole entire buildings, and other things
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If you watch at about 1:35 he starts slicing it cuts through everything that is much further then the range of his sword
Also note that he's not even exerting himself, his speed and strength if far more then that as Sephiroth can teleport, fly, etc, i've yet to see a structure that Sephiroth CANNOT cut through.
Originally posted by RemindmeWow, I'm going to learn to not trust what KMCers say one day. I guess Seph is faster. Dante still has much better durability.
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Who's faster?
Durability wont be a problem for Sephiroth, because each slice will definately be critical, unless Dante dresses up like Cloud, then Sephiroth will end up stabbing him in the hand, shoulder, foot or somethin while taunting him more.
So long as the fast guy has something sharp, and the enemy can be cut, I have to disagree
okie thinking on it, ime not 100% sure but here goes
Cloud VS ganon
Cloud i think can win this, his materia, variety of great powers and skills and has a large variety of moves and limit breaks but i dont think he does it with ease so ime going to say he does it, but not flawlessly..he gets wounded.
Cloud vs Xemnas
Xemnas i belive wins this since Cloud being wounded and weakened, Xemnas can teleport and do a lot of fairly impressive attacks and i dont think cloud will be able to win through, but hey, ime not a FF dude here, maybe the FF ones are best done by Gears.
Ryu VS Xemnas
another one i dont know much about, ill give it to Ryu, his vast array of weapons and abilities coupled with his training, i think he takes it without too many wounds.
Ryu VS Sephi
Sephi..shoudl be able to win shouldnt he, ive played final fantasy games that has sephiroth and he has a wide range of attacks, is quick and has a powerful sword, but once again, not in my element debating these guys.
Dante VS Sephi
Dante i belive, his devil trigger, sparda form allows him to move incredibly quick at Sephiroth, using a combination of quick flight and such and such he could take Sephi i belive, also ime not sure but devil arms may be useful, although seph has a vairtey of barriers and shields he may not be able to stop a constant hail of ebony and ivory..the submachinegun and such, eventually even his speed may be cought out. If he tries to cast anything, as ive seen most of his good spells take a little time to cast so he would be a sitting duck to use any of his best spells and Dante could slash him, i think Dante wins but takes minor wounds
(i know you say no recovery after rounds but does character abilities such as dantes healing factor still take place?)
Dante VS Kain
Kain has to many additions i belive, easy use of Telekinieses to disarm Dante, Telekinetic shackles to hold or throw dante, impale him on the reaver, Kain doesnt want to use any of his reaver powers in this battle but could use dimension if things get too dicy, but he would want to reserve them for Malygos, dante falls in battle eventually what with him already being wounded.
Kain VS Malygos
i think Kain, Malygos although a large and powerful magic dragon may be at a disadvantage since Balance Guardians have the power of "boundless incoruptable magic", i dont know what incoruptouble means, likely it cannot be polluted but anyway Boundles magic dragon VS boundless magic Kain, Kains extra abilities over the dragon such as his TK if it shoots physical magic, if it tries to pummel kain with its size his usual mist/teleport and if he keeps his reaver powers he can Dimension to the dragon, let loose with his energy blasts.