Iron Fist vs Puck

Originally posted by Soljer
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I'd love to see a little on panel evidence of Puck being Spiderman's equal in speed or agility. The respect thread does little to prove your point, so maybe you have some scans you just felt like keeping private?

Besides that, Iron Fist could keep up with Spiderman BEFORE his upgrades - meaning Spiderman-level-speed ISN'T quite significant enough to be a deciding factor.

Post-upgrades, Danny's speed has been upgraded to the point where he can catch a bullet fired from a rifle. With his back turned. While poisoned.

Originally posted by Soljer
I'd love to see a little on panel evidence of Puck being Spiderman's equal in speed or agility. The respect thread does little to prove your point, so maybe you have some scans you just felt like keeping private?

Besides that, Iron Fist could keep up with Spiderman BEFORE his upgrades - meaning Spiderman-level-speed ISN'T quite significant enough to be a deciding factor.

Post-upgrades, Danny's speed has been upgraded to the point where he can catch a bullet fired from a rifle. With his back turned. While poisoned.

Handbooks state it, and even classic Puck was bouncing off walls and rolled into a ball knocking out one of Mauler's gang members who used to give Iron Man problems, plus Puck has rountinely beat Brass Bishop who made Spider-Man look like a fool.

Wasn't saying that in the least if you looked at what I said, but Puck is said to be faster

"Puck was said to be near indestructable and invulnerable so could Iron Fist work? *shrugs* I have my doubts of classic Iron Fist but current who has gained new powers I'm not sure...since I havn't been reading the new run".

I don't mean to be rude, if you're taking me that way.

I'm just very suspect of handbooks - most on the forum are. We go by feats, no?

I mean, Steel Serpent made classic Spidey look a fool, too. And Danny's beat up on him a dozen times, too, no?

Beyond that, I was more laughing at the point that you thought his speed was significantly greater than (even classic) Danny's.

Classic or Current, Iron Fist'd have no problem keeping up with Puck.

Originally posted by Soljer
I don't mean to be rude, if you're taking me that way.

I'm just very suspect of handbooks - most on the forum are. We go by feats, no?

I mean, Steel Serpent made classic Spidey look a fool, too. And Danny's beat up on him a dozen times, too, no?

Beyond that, I was more laughing at the point that you thought his speed was significantly greater than (even classic) Danny's.

Classic or Current, Iron Fist'd have no problem keeping up with Puck.

I wasn't

As am I, but even on-panel feats shows Puck and Spider-Man to be very similar even when they are together

Oh I know, but that example was to talk about Puck's speed compared to Spider-Man.

Well Iron Fist was said to be peak human, while Puck is superhuman that's where that comes from. Even Cap can keep up with Spider-Man and we know he is faster, do I think Iron Fist can keep up? Sure, as he has done so against people faster in the past.

Didn't say otherwise.

For the record, Iron Fist is nearly peak human normally.

If he 'chi amps' he can exceed that level, and actually hit superhuman speed levels.

And, saying that 'Puck is significantly faster than Iron Fist' seems to imply that you were saying that Danny couldn't keep up.

Regardless of whether you meant to or not, it wouldn't be a stretch to interpret it that way.

Originally posted by Soljer
For the record, Iron Fist is nearly peak human normally.

If he 'chi amps' he can exceed that level, and actually hit superhuman speed levels.

And, saying that 'Puck is significantly faster than Iron Fist' seems to imply that you were saying that Danny couldn't keep up.

Regardless of whether you meant to or not, it wouldn't be a stretch to interpret it that way.

See I have read mixed things about, he made comment his chi reaches him to peak level, and other times it says superhuman. Would make far more sense if it was superhuman the way classic Iron Fist dodged Punisher's gunfire.

Nope, as in the same post I was making corrections about how long his battle experiences was

No I can definetly see where you can get it, I assure you that wasn't my intention.

In most of his old bios, it's said that he can chi amp to peak human. However, more recently (though, still, pre-upgrade), comics have stated that the Chi of Shou-Lou the undying amped Danny's speed and strength to super human levels.

And no sweat, if you didn't mean to imply that. Just a mis-interpretation on my part. 🙂.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Just a few things, Puck is still significantly faster as he has superhuman speed equal to Spider-man same with agility.

Puck also has been fighting for almost a century, so he has vast fighting experience.

I was hedging my bet, BTW...deep in my heart, I would like to think that Puck could slap Iron Fist around and call him a "hoser"

Puck.

Iron Fist. He's drastically amped since this thread was made in 2007

Danny.

Danny nearly broke his hand when he hit Hiroim with the Iron Fist. Hiroim may have had around the same durability as Puck, perhaps even less.

Just saying.

Puck is the best.

KM is such a Alpha Flight hater!

Originally posted by Stoic
Danny nearly broke his hand when he hit Hiroim with the Iron Fist. Hiroim may have had around the same durability as Puck, perhaps even less.

Just saying.

If it was rubber Puck this would be more compeitive, but I believe he has lost that upgrade since escaping from Hell.

Originally posted by Stoic
Danny nearly broke his hand when he hit Hiroim with the Iron Fist. Hiroim may have had around the same durability as Puck, perhaps even less.

Just saying.

Hiroim had the old-power when he came to earth you know the power the lets you massively amp your strength and durability etc etc.