whatever you'd like to believe go ahead. im just sayin i dot believe in a creater. too many flaws in that story. besides that there is absolutely no proof of an afterlife. now i may not have all the damn facts in the world but i can garuntee you there has been no proven manifestation of anything that can garuntee an afterlife, ie ghosts.
Originally posted by chickenlover98Your right, there isn't. That would why it's called faith. There never will be proof because if it exists it is very likely outside the scope of science.
whatever you'd like to believe go ahead. im just sayin i dot believe in a creater. too many flaws in that story. besides that there is absolutely no proof of an afterlife. now i may not have all the damn facts in the world but i can garuntee you there has been no proven manifestation of anything that can garuntee an afterlife, ie ghosts.
Originally posted by NellinatorLOL.......Yet, what we could call god could be circular, not the way someone thinks, but in all things beginning, maturity, and ending, and then become yet again....
Which sticks you in an endless circle. Personally, I think you haven't the faintest idea about science.
Originally posted by lord xyzFirst tell me while you believe in gravity? Assuming the answer is because you can observe it's effects I can say that the same.
Then why believe it?
I have seen the affect that becoming a Christian has on people. Therefore, we have an observed effect and a cause. Therefore, there is a chance that the cause is from something greater. I have taken that chance and have no reason not to.
the reason you can see visual and psychological effects of religion is often because people have hard times dealing witht their own problems or the fact that will stop existing when they die. it goes into philosophy. everyone would like to believe i something, therefor they gravitate to something that seems helpful ie. the christian community
Originally posted by chickenlover98That does not falsify religion however.
the reason you can see visual and psychological effects of religion is often because people have hard times dealing witht their own problems or the fact that will stop existing when they die. it goes into philosophy. everyone would like to believe i something, therefor they gravitate to something that seems helpful ie. the christian community
religion is a belief system. it provides moral background and guides you through your life. however i have my own belief system, which isnt based upon the guide lines written thousands of years ago. im not saying that the values of religion are false in anyway, im just saying that god isnt there.
i would have to study psychology to give a completely in depth explanation of how religion affects the human psyche.
Originally posted by chickenlover98I'm a psychologist so I can tell you that psychology doesn't say much on the issue despite many studies into it.
religion is a belief system. it provides moral background and guides you through your life. however i have my own belief system, which isnt based upon the guide lines written thousands of years ago. im not saying that the values of religion are false in anyway, im just saying that god isnt there.i would have to study psychology to give a completely in depth explanation of how religion affects the human psyche.
The only thing psychology has really found is that there is a high positive correlation between happiness and a meaningful faith.
well of course there is. why wouldnt there be? what would you be without your beliefs? a shell. nothing. of course they make you happy.
btw i dont like shrinks. not because i think they're job is a job but because im 15 and when i see them they talk down to you. i hate that. if you dfo that dont. it makes ppl hate you
Originally posted by NellinatorIt's a logical explanation and fills the holes (speaking metaphorically of course).
First tell me while you believe in gravity?
Originally posted by NellinatorNah. It's because it fills the holes.
Assuming the answer is because you can observe it's effects I can say that the same.
Originally posted by NellinatorThe effect I see Christianity has on people is making them stupid, delusional, moody, violent, liars and retarded. That is why I look down on them.
I have seen the affect that becoming a Christian has on people. Therefore, we have an observed effect and a cause. Therefore, there is a chance that the cause is from something greater. I have taken that chance and have no reason not to.
Originally posted by lord xyz
The effect I see Christianity has on people is making them stupid, delusional, moody, violent, liars and retarded. That is why I look down on them.
Originally posted by Nellinator
First tell me while you believe in gravity? Assuming the answer is because you can observe it's effects I can say that the same.I have seen the affect that becoming a Christian has on people. Therefore, we have an observed effect and a cause. Therefore, there is a chance that the cause is from something greater. I have taken that chance and have no reason not to.
That same affect happens to people who are in other religions like Buddhism, Islam and Hinduism. The affect you are talking about is a human affect that has nothing to do this the religion in question.
Originally posted by StormIf history has shown us one thing, it's that religious people are just what I said. Yes, I'm being offensive, but I'm not afraid to show these people what they really are to non-delusional people.
This is not only naked bigotry, but in fact an example of how atheists can adopt just the sort of ridiculous beliefs which they find contemptible in others.
Originally posted by lord xyz
If history has shown us one thing, it's that religious people are just what I said. Yes, I'm being offensive, but I'm not afraid to show these people what they really are to non-delusional people.
All people, including atheists, are delusional to some degree. We all suffer, and are capable of great good or evil. Religion is a reflection of humanity; not the other way around.
Originally posted by ShakyamunisonYes, all people are delusional. But to believe something based off of faith to be true, is retarded. Those who know it to be illogical are liars, those who don't is stupid, those who can't accept it are violent and moody, and not realising all of that is delusional. Religion only causes bad things. It has been seen, it it will be seen. Look what's happening in the middle east.
All people, including atheists, are delusional to some degree. We all suffer, and are capable of great good or evil. Religion is a reflection of humanity; not the other way around.
Originally posted by lord xyz
Yes, all people are delusional. But to believe something based off of faith to be true, is retarded. Those who know it to be illogical are liars, those who don't is stupid, those who can't accept it are violent and moody, and not realising all of that is delusional. Religion only causes bad things. It has been seen, it it will be seen. Look what's happening in the middle east.
Then you would be one of the retarded people. You have faith is things you cannot prove all day long.