No Jail for have a go heroes

Jack "Batman" Straw

By GEORGE PASCOE-WATSON
Political Editor
SEPTEMBER 27, 2007

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HAVE-a-go heroes will be allowed to defend themselves without fear of prosecution, ministers declared today.

Those who use “reasonable force” will have a new guarantee of immunity.

It will apply to anyone who finds an intruder in their home or tries to catch a villain in the street.

Justice Secretary Jack Straw declared people who stand up for justice must be protected by the law. He fears too many turn a blind eye to crime for fear of the police charging them with violence.

He wants to encourage a culture of justice where criminals face prosecution, not those who do the right thing.

He told the Labour conference in Bournemouth: “The justice system must not only work on the side of people who do the right thing as good citizens. It must also be seen to work on their side.

“Enforcing the law, securing justice, is not just a matter for ‘them’. It’s a matter for all of us.”

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Mr Straw, who has waded in to stop criminals 4 times added: “I know from personal experience that you have all of a millisecond to judge about whether to intervene.

“In such a situation, the law on self-defence works much better than most people think, but not as well as it could or should.”

http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2006420002-2007440894,00.html

I don't think everyone is as tough as Jack vigilanties cause problems.

Yeah baby! It depend what they mean by reasonable force though.

I don't know, compared to the two other U.K. vigilantes, "The Angle Grinder Man" and that katana wielding bastard who beheaded a criminal, this Jack Straw seems ho-hum.

Originally posted by Robtard
I don't know, compared to the two other U.K. vigilantes, "The Angle Grinder Man" and that katana wielding bastard who beheaded a criminal, this Jack Straw seems ho-hum.

....you talking to me? Well I dont see anybody else here.

Originally posted by Robtard
I don't know, compared to the two other U.K. vigilantes, "The Angle Grinder Man" and that katana wielding bastard who beheaded a criminal, this Jack Straw seems ho-hum.

He is a politician, we breed them tough, Neil Kinnock , an ex labour leader, beat two guys up in an Indian restaraunt toilet for insulting his wife. I doubt dubya would do that.

Originally posted by Zebedee
He is a politician, we breed them tough, Neil Kinnock , an ex labour leader, beat two guys up in an Indian restaraunt toilet for insulting his wife. I doubt dubya would do that.

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Originally posted by Zebedee
He is a politician, we breed them tough, Neil Kinnock , an ex labour leader, beat two guys up in an Indian restaraunt toilet for insulting his wife. I doubt dubya would do that.

wow. senseless violence. how admirable.

but yes, dubya would never do that. he would just have him kidnapped and dragged off to guantanimo to face months/years of solitary confinement and torture.

Originally posted by Zebedee
He is a politician, we breed them tough, Neil Kinnock , an ex labour leader, beat two guys up in an Indian restaraunt toilet for insulting his wife. I doubt dubya would do that.

The "W" is physically tough... he's stocky, has a block-like head and a decent set of knuckles; he's also a very dirty fighter, which would be a plus in a free-for-all street fight. Rampant Nepotism, cronyism, corruption and overall failed politics aside, the "W" seems like a brawler; I am confident he could take out most world leaders in the Thunderdome.

Originally posted by Schecter
wow. senseless violence. how admirable.

but yes, dubya would never do that. he would just have him kidnapped and dragged off to guantanimo to face months/years of solitary confinement and torture.

It wasn't senseless if two guys pawed your woman and made comments to make her feel worthless. I think you'd act in someway. I don't think many men wouldn't. I think it's a case of standing up for what's right. He asked them to apologise first and they were continually abuse. Neil was a "have a go" hero.

Originally posted by Robtard
The "W" is physically tough... he's stocky, has a block-like head and a decent set of knuckles... he's also a very dirty fighter, which would be a plus in a free-for-all street fight. Rampant Nepotism, cronyism, corruption and overall failed politics aside, the "W" seems like a brawler; I am confident he could take on most world leaders in the Thunderdome.

I take it back it could be a good match up. Neil played Rugby for Wales as a youth. I think we should get a time machine like in Bill and Ted, some ether and catch them both in their prime. Put them in a steel cage ala the WWE and let the mayhem ensue. I give odds as evens.

Originally posted by Robtard
The "W" is physically tough... he's stocky, has a block-like head and a decent set of knuckles; he's also a very dirty fighter, which would be a plus in a free-for-all street fight. Rampant Nepotism, cronyism, corruption and overall failed politics aside, the "W" seems like a brawler; I am confident he could take out most world leaders in the Thunderdome.

Yeah well anyway *pushes Robtard*

Originally posted by Zebedee
It wasn't senseless if two guys pawed your woman and make comments to make her feel worthless.

"pawing"? well if by that you mean phisically imposing/assaulting, then i feel he was in the right. if they just said rude comments i dont feel he was legally justified in assaulting them.
a spoken insult is not a crime. assault is.

Originally posted by Zebedee
I think you'd act in someway. I don't think many men wouldn't. I think it's a case of standing up for what's right. He asked them to apologise first and they were continually abuse. Neil was a "have a go" hero.

he could have notified the authorities of this harassment.

Originally posted by Schecter
"pawing"? well if by that you mean phisically imposing/assaulting, then i feel he was in the right. if they just said rude comments i dont feel he was legally justified in assaulting them.
a spoken insult is not a crime. assault is.

he could have notified the authorities of this harassment.

Oh well lets all hold hands and hug some trees.

notice the words "legally justified", which is the topic, if im not mistaken.

you dont have to knee jerk react with implications of extreme passivism. we are discussing law, here.

Originally posted by Schecter
"pawing"? well if by that you mean phisically imposing/assaulting, then i feel he was in the right. if they just said rude comments i dont feel he was legally justified in assaulting them.
a spoken insult is not a crime. assault is.

he could have notified the authorities of this harassment.

They pawed, one stroke her hair and made suggestive comment as she sat have dinner with her husband who was leader of the opposition at the time. I don't think any man could stand for that in front of him. In the U.K. a spoken insult is a crime. It's incitement to cause a breach of the peace or a number of other charges.

Originally posted by Alfheim
Yeah well anyway *pushes Robtard*

*kicks the man-bag* *gouges eye with thumb* *bites a portion of cheek-meat off* *shits out Alfheim*

That's how I roll.

Originally posted by Zebedee
They pawed, one stroke her hair and made suggestive comment as she sat have dinner with her husband who was leader of the opposition at the time. I don't think any man could stand for that in front of him. In the U.K. a spoken insult is a crime. It's incitement to cause a breach of the peace or a number of other charges.

That desrves a punch in the face and he asked them to stop.

Originally posted by Robtard
*kicks the man-bag* *gouges eye with thumb* *bites a portion of cheek-meat off* *shits out Alfheim*

That's how I roll.

Damn..what your really that raw? Anyway im just messing around no beef whatsoever.

Originally posted by Zebedee
They pawed, one stroke her hair and made suggestive comment as she sat have dinner with her husband who was leader of the opposition at the time. I don't think any man could stand for that in front of him. In the U.K. a spoken insult is a crime. It's incitement to cause a breach of the peace or a number of other charges.

wow. i guess laws of conduct are far more strict over there. in america that part about stroking her hair would likely go over as justification for self defense, but not simple words (unless of course those words were threatening/endangering as opposed to just emotionally hurtful)

Originally posted by Alfheim

Damn..what your really that raw? Anyway im just messing around no beef whatsoever.

Well, I probably wouldn't "shit you out", just spit you back in your face. Likewise.

Originally posted by Schecter
wow. i guess laws of conduct are far more strict over there. in america that part about stroking her hair would likely go over as justification for self defense, but not simple words (unless of course those words were threatening/endangering as opposed to just emotionally hurtful)

Face it... he beat up two assholes and got away with it because he's a politician. Moral of the story, don't beat the crap out of some scum, even if they deserve it, unless you're connected.