Originally posted by Burning thoughtit wouldnt affect galactus.
possibly, i wouldnt know, is there not a strange fan around who knows all his powers and can prove this, i just think under the criteria of him being able to do the spell without much time if any, if he could pull it off and stop Galactus in time then he would likely win since Galactus wouldnt be able to do anything if he was affected
Originally posted by quanchi112
it wouldnt affect galactus.
why? i need proof to belive this, simply "galactus can do feet A and B so he must be able to resist C" is not exactley a fair or reasonable assumption to make. Since we know regardless of stranges speed he can do the power and that hes done it before he has the ability, now ime interested in proof "why" it would not work on Galactus
Originally posted by Burning thought
why? i need proof to belive this, simply "galactus can do feet A and B so he must be able to resist C" is not exactley a fair or reasonable assumption to make. Since we know regardless of stranges speed he can do the power and that hes done it before he has the ability, now ime interested in proof "why" it would not work on Galactus
Well your statement works both ways. What is the proof that strange`s attack would work. There`s more evidence indicating Galactus would not be effected:
1. To my knowledge, no one has ever tried freezing time to stop Galactus in mid-motion.
2. Another fact, his heralds routinely manipulate time, and each herald only is given a fraction of Galactus` Power Cosmic...Galactus has shown recognition of time displaced travelers, and his tech, namely his vessel, can travel back and forth through time at the merest of whims. And all of Galactus` tech (except for the ultimate nullifier) is designed to replicate what Galactus can already do. The reason why he uses tech is so he doesn`t waste his energy doing this that can easily be achieved through normal scientific technology.
3. The ultimate nullifier, an aspect of Galactus, can erase entire timelines. Erasing time >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stopping time.
4. Time is an aspect of universal reality. Eternity is the abstract representation and the sum total embodiement of all time in the universe. His counter-part, Infinity, is exactly the same, except she is for space, not time. Each one is but the flip of the other, and they each can, and do, represent the living embodiement of the universe and everything in it. When Eternity (as well as Infinity), emobiment of the sum total of all things in the universe and all time that was, is, and will be in the universe, was comatose, it was Galactus who HEALED ETERNITY. This is no small feat...again, Galactus REVIVED an abstract entity that represented the living emobidment of the universe and all time. If Galactus can revive Eternity from being comatose......what will simply stopping time do?
5. Galactus (Galan in specific) existed even before the concept of time was birthed into the current marvel universe.
Originally posted by TricksterPriestHow exactly?
I said Strange can take this, but he needs prep time. Without it, he's greatly outmatched.
Plus, in a future look at 616, Galactus created the big bang. Time, space, etc.
He also separated Eternity, from Infinity, by manipulating Gamora.
I'd look for something else, but I'm lazy.
This fight is stupid. Agamotto, a deity Strange draws power from, trapped him like a monkey. So what do the sorcerror supreme do? Kick A's a$$? No, the punk drew Galactus into a battle with Agamotto to buy him time to call other Vishanti. Seriously, what's Strange going to do to Galactus when Galactuss has owned him just through a psychic vision?
Galactus 10/10.
Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing👆
This fight is stupid. Agamotto, a deity Strange draws power from, trapped him like a monkey. So what do the sorcerror supreme do? Kick A's a$$? No, the punk drew Galactus into a battle with Agamotto to buy him time to call other Vishanti. Seriously, what's Strange going to do to Galactus when Galactuss has owned him just through a psychic vision?Galactus 10/10.
Originally posted by Tenebrous
Well your statement works both ways. What is the proof that strange`s attack would work. There`s more evidence indicating Galactus would not be effected:1. To my knowledge, no one has ever tried freezing time to stop Galactus in mid-motion.
2. Another fact, his heralds routinely manipulate time, and each herald only is given a fraction of Galactus` Power Cosmic...Galactus has shown recognition of time displaced travelers, and his tech, namely his vessel, can travel back and forth through time at the merest of whims. And all of Galactus` tech (except for the ultimate nullifier) is designed to replicate what Galactus can already do. The reason why he uses tech is so he doesn`t waste his energy doing this that can easily be achieved through normal scientific technology.
3. The ultimate nullifier, an aspect of Galactus, can erase entire timelines. Erasing time >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stopping time.
4. Time is an aspect of universal reality. Eternity is the abstract representation and the sum total embodiement of all time in the universe. His counter-part, Infinity, is exactly the same, except she is for space, not time. Each one is but the flip of the other, and they each can, and do, represent the living embodiement of the universe and everything in it. When Eternity (as well as Infinity), emobiment of the sum total of all things in the universe and all time that was, is, and will be in the universe, was comatose, it was Galactus who HEALED ETERNITY. This is no small feat...again, Galactus REVIVED an abstract entity that represented the living emobidment of the universe and all time. If Galactus can revive Eternity from being comatose......what will simply stopping time do?
5. Galactus (Galan in specific) existed even before the concept of time was birthed into the current marvel universe.
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Originally posted by quanchi112
he cant freeze galactus. he really cant. so its pointless bringing it up.
its not been proven, until it is, its a capable scenario...all i want is a penal showing Galactus stopping someone from freezing time on him, or someone who has time powers and used them on him and it didnt work.
as i said, saying big G is "zomg super powerful cosmic being and has powers A and B so must be immune to D" does not work, in all his scenes hes been bashed, bumped and beaten in diffrent ways so his so called unlimited powers are not so it seems.
obviously those who take the perscpective of A, B so must be immune/have power C are unlikely to budge even without showing proof
Originally posted by Sundipped
Sorry but it will be no freezing of the Big G. Not time wise or cold wise.
its nice to say, but can it be proven?
i can randomly say, "its nice to say but Dr strange will immune and one hit big G" obviously because hes not rated so highly as big G he wont be accepted so much but its just as ludicrous without proof that your denying strange cant do anything to a being who has shown no ressitences
Originally posted by Burning thought
its not been proven, until it is, its a capable scenario...all i want is a penal showing Galactus stopping someone from freezing time on him, or someone who has time powers and [B] used them on him and it didnt work.as i said, saying big G is "zomg super powerful cosmic being and has powers A and B so must be immune to D" does not work, in all his scenes hes been bashed, bumped and beaten in diffrent ways so his so called unlimited powers are not so it seems.
obviously those who take the perscpective of A, B so must be immune/have power C are unlikely to budge even without showing proof [/B]
Sorry Burning Thought but what evidence have you showed to proof that a time freeze attack would work on a semi abstract level. Again how was this spell used against and under what circumstances?
And strange varies in power as well in one Comic he is repairing the Universe with a spell in the next he gets owned by a thief, so don't bring up bad showings because if one has varying power levels as well then its strange.
I would also like to know what defense strange has against:
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I would like to note that all this feats are preformed when he was weak
Also I would like to bring forth a point about eternity and Infinity but I can see Tenebrous has done that already.
Strange has a slight chance if he has every resource at hand, and at bloodlust he did destroy Shuma gorath in his realm which is a pretty mad feat in itself by using white and black magic, which he claimed he would never use again due the possible consequences. If he can use all his artifacts (including the darkhold) to their potential and get the backing of all those elder gods he could possibly pull off a win, but Galactus at 100% would probably smash him quite easily.
