Pyron vs. Z(Tenchi)

Started by Violent2Dope10 pages

Originally posted by chickenlover98
Z is a stalemate IMO. dbz fputting up a fight is laughable
Z's only thing he has over Pyron is defense. He can still be absorbed, or matter manipulated.

not really. the defense negates everything. therefore STALEMATE

Originally posted by chickenlover98
not really. the defense negates everything. therefore STALEMATE
No proof it negates everything. He could absorb him AND his LHW. Or he could matter manip him into a cat.

WTF, Z 10/10, what is pyron gonna do but die?

Originally posted by Fire Ninja
WTF, Z 10/10, what is pyron gonna do but die?
Absorb him...matter manip him like he did Bishamon...you choose.

matter negation. everything is negated by LHW. we have no proof of a superior enrgy piercing them, all speculation

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Absorb him...matter manip him like he did Bishamon...you choose.

He never manipulated Bishomon matter, Pyrons's energies had an effect on his magic.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
No proof it negates everything. He could absorb him AND his LHW. Or he could matter manip him into a cat.

If Tokimi couldn't kill him without destroying the entire universe (when he only had 2 LHWs), what is Pyron going to do when he has 5?

thank you mike

Originally posted by Endless Mike
If Tokimi couldn't kill him without destroying the entire universe (when he only had 2 LHWs), what is Pyron going to do when he has 5?
BFR mayber? Absorb him? Also, FN, how do you know it wasn't matter manip?

Considering he can travel between dimensions and universes, BFR is unlikely. Attempting to absorb a being with the divine energies of the Chousein would not work very well, consider what happened when Zero tried to copy/absorb Ryoko (who used the gems that had Washu's power, but was still not a LHW user), and got absorbed himself.

Originally posted by Endless Mike
Considering he can travel between dimensions and universes, BFR is unlikely. Attempting to absorb a being with the divine energies of the Chousein would not work very well, consider what happened when Zero tried to copy/absorb Ryoko (who used the gems that had Washu's power, but was still not a LHW user), and got absorbed himself.
True on the BFR thing. Also, Pyron absorbs whole planets with ease, and has now absorbed countless galaxies worth of planets. Pyron's capacity to absorb is possibly limitless. Seriously tho, I still say Pyron can matter manip him. Also, how will Z kill Pyron? His actual offensive powers seem to pale to Pyron's.

A being cut with the LHWs offensively will be removed from existence, even a grazing attack will cause them to evaporate in a blue light and just fade away

Originally posted by Endless Mike
A being cut with the LHWs offensively will be removed from existence, even a grazing attack will cause them to evaporate in a blue light and just fade away
Pyron is faster than Z believe it or not. He also can split to multiple different Pyron's. He can instantly create Phobos robots to distract Z. Also, how can one cut...energy?

Maybe faster but not more maneuverable, his huge body is a massive target and all Z needs is one hit. Not to mention Z has dimensional travel, teleportation, and time travel to make up for it, and he can extend his LHWs to attack omnidirectionally extremely quickly. As for cutting energy, it works the same was as the defensive aspect: when they're hit, the target is erased - not physically, but metaphysically. Its "essence of existence" is removed from reality. Kagato could regenerate from just about anything, but as soon as he was cut by Tenchi's LHW Sword he faded away to nothingness. The Chobimaru's energy blast was completely nullified to nothingness by the LHWs, as well as the Souja's energy blasts.

Originally posted by Endless Mike
Maybe faster but not more maneuverable, his huge body is a massive target and all Z needs is one hit. Not to mention Z has dimensional travel, teleportation, and time travel to make up for it, and he can extend his LHWs to attack omnidirectionally extremely quickly. As for cutting energy, it works the same was as the defensive aspect: when they're hit, the target is erased - not physically, but metaphysically. Its "essence of existence" is removed from reality. Kagato could regenerate from just about anything, but as soon as he was cut by Tenchi's LHW Sword he faded away to nothingness. The Chobimaru's energy blast was completely nullified to nothingness by the LHWs, as well as the Souja's energy blasts.
Pyron can change his size, he can be as maneuverable as he wishes. Pyron also has tele, and a shield, that would be erased in place of Pyron. How will Z react to being absorbed or matter maniped tho?

I already explained, that unless you have power at least equal to a Chousein (multiversal creator) then none of that is going to do jack shit against the LHWs.

Z also has telekinesis and can use matter/energy manipulation himself

Originally posted by Endless Mike
Not to mention Z has dimensional travel, teleportation, and time travel to make up for it,

Z goes back in time and kill baby Pyron then. End of discussion

Originally posted by Endless Mike
I already explained, that unless you have power at least equal to a Chousein (multiversal creator) then none of that is going to do jack shit against the LHWs.

Z also has telekinesis and can use matter/energy manipulation himself

He has never shown resistance against being absorbed or matter maniped. I still have yet to see how Z can win against Pyron. The only thing Z has over him is defense, cause of LHW.

Originally posted by SHM
Z goes back in time and kill baby Pyron then. End of discussion
Too bad Z doesn't know where Pyron's planet is or when he was alive. Also, it would create a time paradox. If he killed baby Pyron, then adult cosmic Pyron would have never existed, thus they would never would have fought, and Z would have never gone back in time to kill baby Pyron. Weird, huh?