Originally posted by CriticAnd you're attracted to me for some reason. (It's like your a certain member's lap dog doing their will) Be original.
You avoided my question.
Also, say something that pertains to this thread.....and not me for a change, which you seem to do in a number of threads that I post in. I annoy you so much yet you just joined and therefore don't know me, yet you go out of your way to interact with me. It's like those childhood scenarios where the girl/boy picks on another, not b/c they don't like them, but b/c they do. 😉
Anata wa wakarimasu ka.....
Originally posted by InnerRise
And you're attracted to me for some reason. (It's like your a certain member's lap dog doing their will) Be original.Also, say something that pertains to this thread.....and not me for a change, which you seem to do in a number of threads that I post in. I annoy you so much yet you just joined and therefore don't know me, yet you go out of your way to interact with me. It's like those childhood scenarios where the girl/boy picks on another, not b/c they don't like them, but b/c they do. 😉
Anata wa wakarimasu ka.....
You avoided my question for a second time, InnerRise. It's a simple question. Stop going out of your way to try to look intelligent and just answer the question. It's not a complex request.
Lo Ofa Sie Sirren Ni
As a teenager from 13-18 I was really into myself and my friends/neighborhood, and doing drugs and fighting and stealing.
I had little use for authority and school/parents and felt that as long as nobody else gets hurt, that people should be able to do whatever feels good to them. (or even if somebody does get hurt, screw 'em if they can't take a joke!)
This all changed for me around 20, 21 when I got sick of the frustration and failure that my outlook gave me.
Searching for answers, I had a radical encounter with God...spiritually, mentally, and even physically.
My views are now much-more Kingdom minded and I (try to) look at people as the Lord looks at them.
I'm a few months from 25 now and I believe in living for whats good, whats true, and what's right. Even if people don't directly effect anybody elses life with their choices... I know that their individual actions add up to what our society is as a whole.
I care alot about people. I hope and pray for the best for them and for the Holy Spirit to show me the way and the words to speak into their lives.
Families, parents and kids. Seeing them restored and built up from crappy situations.
Particularly teens, who I minister to in home group settings and in youth groups.
I believe now that there is something honest and good out there for them, and I want them to know the Presence of God through Christ so that they won't take the long way 'round like I did.
Originally posted by Critic😄 Awesome.
I was once an atheist and I was also very disrespectful and hateful towards religion. I'm a Christian now.
Originally posted by sithsaber408
As a teenager from 13-18 I was really into myself and my friends/neighborhood, and doing drugs and fighting and stealing.I had little use for authority and school/parents and felt that as long as nobody else gets hurt, that people should be able to do whatever feels good to them. (or even if somebody does get hurt, screw 'em if they can't take a joke!)
This all changed for me around 20, 21 when I got sick of the frustration and failure that my outlook gave me.
Searching for answers, I had a radical encounter with God...spiritually, mentally, and even physically.
My views are now much-more Kingdom minded and I (try to) look at people as the Lord looks at them.
I'm a few months from 25 now and I believe in living for whats good, whats true, and what's right. Even if people don't directly effect anybody elses life with their choices... I know that their individual actions add up to what our society is as a whole.
I care alot about people. I hope and pray for the best for them and for the Holy Spirit to show me the way and the words to speak into their lives.
Families, parents and kids. Seeing them restored and built up from crappy situations.
Particularly teens, who I minister to in home group settings and in youth groups.
I believe now that there is something honest and good out there for them, and I want them to know the Presence of God through Christ so that they won't take the long way 'round like I did.
😄 Awesome.
There is two things I never do as a Christian.
A) Attempt to press my Religion onto others.
B) Attempt to prove that God exists or claim that he does.
To elaborate on A: I believe that those who chose to be saved must take upon this task themselves and not feel obligated to do so. The independence of choice is important within our religion.
To elaborate on B: I've seen hundreds of religious men make fools of themselves attempting to pass off shoddy theories and ridiculous tales to prove God's existence but It's simply not possible. I believe he exists due to my faith and that alone. For those who do not believe, each to their own. Arguing religion and the existence of God is a waste of time. Nothing more.
Originally posted by RedAlertv2Sorry but who ever believes that someone talk how they type needs to go out more and actually socialize.....😬
Exactly. But ironically, improper speech is more permissible. You cant proofread the spoken word. Typing on the other hand...
You really think I speak in a way accordingly to what I pound on the keyboard?
Originally posted by CriticStop going out of your way to troll and just..........SMILE. doped
You avoided my question for a second time, InnerRise. It's a simple question. Stop going out of your way to try to look intelligent and just answer the question. It's not a complex request.[b]Lo Ofa Sie Sirren Ni
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anata wa wakarimasu ka.....
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Isn't it a bit presumptuous to suggest you are trying to see people as an omnipotent deity does?-AC
I want to be more like Jesus. (that's really what being a Christian is about.)
I want Him to transform my life. (and He has, but we never stop growing)
This includes my outlook on people.
I might see anger, or foolishness, pride, addiction, hopelessness, etc... in a persons life, but the Lord sees potential, grace, forgiveness, a pure spirit underneath all of life's garbage.
The Bible teaches us to let Him love others through us.
Make more sense now?
Disregarding any conflict between members, i will answer the question of the thread as it pertains to me.
I wouldn't say my views and beliefs have changed so much but more that they have evolved. My views never used to be very deep. They were mostly adapted from the views of my parents that i sort of absorbed. Now i am actually passionate about certain issues etc. For example, I no longer have that health class opinion of some drugs that they will ruin your life if you use them even once. I have more experiences under my belt so i can make more informed choices and have more justified opinions.
One belief of mine that has changed is regarding religion. I used to sort of be a default christian because that is the kind of house a grew up in. Now i'm agnostic border line athiest.
So i would say, over the course of growing up, my beliefs have undergone change but aren't contrary to anything that i thought in the past... for the most part.
Originally posted by sithsaber408
Nope. Not at all.I want to be more like Jesus. (that's really what being a Christian is about.)
I want Him to transform my life. (and He has, but we never stop growing)
This includes my outlook on people.
I might see anger, or foolishness, pride, addiction, hopelessness, etc... in a persons life, but the Lord sees potential, grace, forgiveness, a pure spirit underneath all of life's garbage.
The Bible teaches us to let Him love others through us.
Make more sense now?
it seems like you've managed to delude yourself into feeling superior to everyone (except of course jesus). you also imply that you are above anger, follishness, pride, addiction, hopelessness, etc.
anyway, you seem more brainwashed then enightened.
Originally posted by sithsaber408
Nope. Not at all.I want to be more like Jesus. (that's really what being a Christian is about.)
I want Him to transform my life. (and He has, but we never stop growing)
This includes my outlook on people.
I might see anger, or foolishness, pride, addiction, hopelessness, etc... in a persons life, but the Lord sees potential, grace, forgiveness, a pure spirit underneath all of life's garbage.
The Bible teaches us to let Him love others through us.
So, becoming a better human being had to be done because of Jesus? You couldn't be a descent human being simply because it's the descent thing to do? Why does it all hinge on Jesus?
When I was younger, I was very trusting and didn't understand that their could be evil in the world. If I were to warn anyone younger, I would say, watch out for toxic ppl. They are usually pretty quiet about their motivation, but if they try to use gossip or heckling every positive value in your life, they are really out to destroy you (sheep's clothing).
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I've had negative ppl in my life, and sometimes, negative ppl aren't evil with horns , sometimes, they seem warm and friendly, but they view your success or the values in your life with silent contempt. You don't realize it until you review their "advice" and maybe even get a chance to see how they label you.
For instance, in my life, I'll list some parts of myself that was labeled or heckled in a negative light to the point that it changed the way I did things but not for the better.
I use to be:
1. Super clean and organized
2. Excellent record keeper (family documents, etc.)
3. I would work harder at things b/c I didn't have a great memory (that means studying harder in school or hobbies).
4. Concerned with appearance and dress style
5. Very giving person
6. Very religious, praying all the time, for the world, neighbors, friends, teachers, etc.
7. Very determined
8. Knew what I wanted
9. I can be very compliant if it meets my value system, if not, I'm not compliment.
10. I was the kind of person who would never have affairs or cheat.
11. I knew how to tap into what ppl wanted and gave them what they wanted (within reason), so I was a good ppl person.
I was labeled as: (each number corresponds to the numbers above):
1. Clean became "Germ freak phobic"
2. Record keeping became "Pretending to be in another culture"
3. Working hard became "Obsessive"
4. Looking my best with my own income became "Materialistic"
5. Giving away my possessions became "Weak"
6. Praying for others became "Religious freak"
7. Determined became "Rebel"
8. knowing what I wanted became "being grown"
9. compliant became "easily influenced"
10. having standards became "religious freak that needs to be taught a lesson"
11. good with ppl became " like friends too much"
So, b/c of this, I became:
sloopy, disorganized, sluggish, dress like a slob, i don't give as much b/c i don't have as much anymore, i don't pray as much as i use to, i don't rebel when i know i should so i am left defenseless, stopped taking care of myself, i am lost/directionless, and i don't adhere to any standard for i am afraid of being heckled for having character, had a crush on a married man and lost my job b/c of rumors, lost friends or was blackballed for it, had pics taken of me that was plastered everywhere, and had my life threatened, when in fact, ppl know me as "not" the person to do that kind of thing.
Now, when I finally grew out of that "friend", I decided to confront her and ask her, how can I be giving, (I gave away my truck one time) and yet, be materialistic? If anything, I was concerned with MY looks to keep up a nice image, the guys I dated weren't GQ models and I wasn't model material myself. Once I reasoned with her, she realized she was wrong, but she already tainted my reputation as being so concerned with my looks. Anytime she found out that I gave away something that I owned, she called me WEAK. If I worked hard to improve my looks, she called me "materialistic". What it really means is that I know good clothing and I will spend MY OWN INCOME to look very nice. But, that hasn't happened in 10 years. Most of what she heckled me about was sent down the tubes 10 years ago. Matter of fact, anyone she is close to, she sends them down the tubes b/c she views any good thing as negative and will spread the negative rumors to anyone who will listen until that person no longer owns that assets or value in their life.
She spread rumors that I was germ phobic, clean freak. That I was obsessive whenever I did things, which is only a negative view of someone who has to work harder to achieve anything. Meaning, even if I had to study until 3 am or put in extra hours in doing any project, I did it. To someone who wants me to be less disciplined, they would call my actions obsessive. why? in order to detour the person from their path. When I explain that anyone who isn't gifted in a subject has to work hard for it, that doesn't make them obessive, it makes them determined. she finally agreed, but not after destroying my reputation.
I can go on and on with this, but you get the picture.
Originally posted by Schecter
it seems like you've managed to delude yourself into feeling superior to everyone (except of course jesus). you also imply that you are above anger, follishness, pride, addiction, hopelessness, etc.anyway, you seem more brainwashed then enightened.
no, no. You've missed it friend.
I don't feel AT ALL superior to anybody.
In fact, my own ways of looking at people are crappy.
Thats WHY one of my views that has changed is to TRY to look at people the way that Christ does.
And you misinterpreted the other part, too.
I never said that I'M above any anger, hopelessness, or addiction. (quite the contrary, as I've already stated in this thread that I experienced that.) 😛
I said that I can, in my own thinking, look at a person's life and see those things. (.. IF that is whats going on in their particular lives)
But the Lord sees grace, forgiveness, potential, a clean and true spirit underneath all the crap of life......
and that's how I want to look at people.
Simple, isn't it?
Originally posted by Devil KingHarder to answer.
So, becoming a better human being had to be done because of Jesus? You couldn't be a descent human being simply because it's the descent thing to do? Why does it all hinge on Jesus?
I know that out in the world there are plenty of descent human beings, yes.
Many do great things, are inventors or contribute to causes and charities.
Lots of them aren't saved. I never said that to be a "decent human being" a person had to be.
But the meaning and peace and assuredness of experiencing the Presense of God can make that decent life even greater!
The thread is about our own views and how they may, or may not have changed.
I can only speak for me (not dodging here), but I know that being a decent person isn't what I was shooting for.
Living a good, happy life of fullfilment, and having purpose and truth are what I was seeking after living one way for awhile.
I looked lots of places, but the only true answer was in Jesus.
That help 'Cap? 🙂
Originally posted by lord xyzmmm.... not so much anymore.
He likes Bush...
The wisdom of KMC posters has rubbed off on me, I must say. 😛
Originally posted by lil bitchiness
If you're a teen - quick! Get a job, move out, wile you STILL know everything!
Yeah, I've seen that before. My cousin has the sign on his door and it cost him a few bucks.
Originally posted by Bardock42
At least you have good reasons to believe 🙂
I have good reason to believe, but it's not a reason you're aware of.