Originally posted by Bol Gath
The "cosmic armbar" was among the worst crap I've ever seen in a comic book.
In one panel Surfer claims that he can fly through stars, and in the next. Voila, BP manages to hold him with an armbar!!!!!! WTF!And no, taking away Surfers board doesn't weaken him. If it would be removed from under him, he would just call it back or make a new one.
And for the fight. Surfers blasts earth into dust result = no more Peter.
Seriously, Surfer can destroy planets, the worst we've seen from Peter is him going nuclear.Conclusion = Peter may be cool and all but against Surfer... Well let's just say a hamburger stands a bigger chance of defeating The Blob!
surfers powers come from "starlight". While he's on earth he still has access to some starlight... but due to our pollution its a lesser amount... ie why surfer was weaker while trapped on earth.
Surfer has been shown before to be able to recreate his board and even fly without needing his board... in other comics without his board he can't fly at all... or recreate the board.. blame the writers...
btw. we don't know how long peter could say.... stop time for... if peter travels anywhere in the universe... surfer would be able to find him... he can track a dust mote across the universe...
however if peter travels through time... it might be harder... althought in the original volume 1 comics i think surfer did manage to travel back in time. but i may be mistaken as i don't remember the circumstances.
in the show any damage directly to the brain completely disables claire, or peter...
btw... heroes powers appears flagrantly based upon "mutation" and there is a virus out that removes your powers and eventually kills you.. i bring case to xmen and the legacy virus...
surfer has created a universal antibody before that saved an entire race from a myriad of diseases... its plausible he could create one that could disable the powers of a mutant...
but anyways... the main asset peter has is the time stop... time jump powers... which could make this a stalemate... but eitherwise.. theres no way he beats surfer... the guy flies into stars and suffers planet shattering blasts... peter can't do the damage needed...
Also it always shows that hiro/peter have to take a second to blink... think.. whatever their attack... speedblitz takes him out before he has that chance.
surfer 8/10... giving 2/10 for the stalemate 0/10 peter wins.
Originally posted by rotiart
surfers powers come from "starlight". While he's on earth he still has access to some starlight... but due to our pollution its a lesser amount... ie why surfer was weaker while trapped on earth.Surfer has been shown before to be able to recreate his board and even fly without needing his board... in other comics without his board he can't fly at all... or recreate the board.. blame the writers...
btw. we don't know how long peter could say.... stop time for... if peter travels anywhere in the universe... surfer would be able to find him... he can track a dust mote across the universe...
however if peter travels through time... it might be harder... althought in the original volume 1 comics i think surfer did manage to travel back in time. but i may be mistaken as i don't remember the circumstances.
in the show any damage directly to the brain completely disables claire, or peter...
btw... heroes powers appears flagrantly based upon "mutation" and there is a virus out that removes your powers and eventually kills you.. i bring case to xmen and the legacy virus...
surfer has created a universal antibody before that saved an entire race from a myriad of diseases... its plausible he could create one that could disable the powers of a mutant...
but anyways... the main asset peter has is the time stop... time jump powers... which could make this a stalemate... but eitherwise.. theres no way he beats surfer... the guy flies into stars and suffers planet shattering blasts... peter can't do the damage needed...
Also it always shows that hiro/peter have to take a second to blink... think.. whatever their attack... speedblitz takes him out before he has that chance.
surfer 8/10... giving 2/10 for the stalemate 0/10 peter wins.
Quoted for truth!
There is really no way Peter could harm Surfer. Hold him of for a short while? maybe. Defeat him? Never!
Originally posted by The Picttime stop, he has super strength, can go nuclear, could go intangible to dodge surfer, blast him with electrisity...a lot he could do to harm him
When has Peter shown he has this ability?SS wins via speed-blitz as soon as this fight starts. There's nothing Peter can do to him.
Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
time stop, he has super strength, can go nuclear, could go intangible to dodge surfer, blast him with electrisity...a lot he could do to harm him
His best form of attack is the nuclear explosion but Surfer has been ground zero at exploding planets and been unharmed. That's like saying a kid with a slingshot can take down a fighter jet.
Originally posted by Validusyes, but he has been hurt with people from super strength however minimal
You honestly think any of those attacks are going to beat a guy who can fly through stars?His best form of attack is the nuclear explosion but Surfer has been ground zero at exploding planets and been unharmed. That's like saying a kid with a slingshot can take down a fighter jet.
Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
yes, but he has been hurt with people from super strength however minimal
Peter is at best Class 5.
The psycho woman's strength has never been displayed as anything higher.
Actually Class 5 is generous. She doesn't even seem to be stronger than Buffy.
Surfer has been hurt by those with super-strength...like the Hulk.
Hulk is Class 100+.
Peter ain't.....
Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
yes, but he has been hurt with people from super strength however minimal
Do you think Peter is stronger than She Hulk? I remind you the Heroes version of "super strength" hasn't been shown to do anything except knock people across small rooms.
Originally posted by SoljerLike this one... especially this one.
The Surfer has been unphased by the Hulk's blows on every occasion they've met.
Originally posted by SoljerAfter he just finished kicking huc, and his friends asses...
The Hulk's best showing was against a Surfer that was totally cut off from the power cosmic during Planet Hulk. Oh, and he was reaching out to the Hulk in friendship when he got hit.Oh, and the Surfer was still fine. Right after, he destroyed the control disks and flew off.
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