Sonic the Hedgehog vs Crash Bandicoot

Originally posted by CRASHBANDICOOT3
Crash just does things the simple way, no need to get fancy. he can still be invincible, control incredible titans, tornado spin, bazooka and all that other stuff I mentioned. So he doesnt automatically lose to every character. I think he'd be able to beat kirby (you say he'd duplicate him, well I think the real crash would beat a clone crash anyday) and also pound on kirby til he's the size of a golf ball using the unlimited tornado spin on him or wearing the aku aku mask and blowing him off the stage (smash style). There are alot of other characters that would be beaten just because crash would be controlling a huge titans that would seriously destroy them (i have the game and these titans have crazyass attacks that would obliterate alot of things in their way).

yea thanx...took me a while before having an avatar and sig.

I like kirby but he might be slightly overrated. Outside of smashbros where according to game mechanics a pichu can beat ganondorf and Bowser is easily defeated by jigglypuff... he is only 8 inches in diameter and doesn't seem to be able to inhale things over a certain size...

He's only eight inches tall?

Wow.. I could like, literally step on him..

Originally posted by shin_gear
I hope we'll be able to debate nicely from this point onwards. Can't say I haven't been guilty of debating with criticism before though.

Yea, i know what you mean. I've recently just came to my senses about crash's abilities where as before I'll admit I was being too biased (like in my crash vs mario thread). But now I'm being fair and providing good reasons for crash's feats and if i see that someone can defeat crash i'll say so. mario or sonic both defeat crash...but not easily. it would be a good fight

Originally posted by Blax_Hydralisk
He's only eight inches tall?

Wow.. I could like, literally step on him..

kirby can take hits from diamond cutting lasers and cannons balls 10 times his size (that 20 cm diameter)
what the hell can crash do against that durability??
your also forgetting (or probably didnt know to begin with) that kirby can sacrifice his stolen power to make a clone of the enemy he swallowed..he can do this twice, so while crash has his titan, kirby has two crashes plus himself 😛

I don't buy the durability bullsh*t. 313

j/k

Just felt like saying that. ermmhug

😬

Originally posted by MadMel
kirby can take hits from diamond cutting lasers and cannons balls 10 times his size (that 20 cm diameter)
what the hell can crash do against that durability??
your also forgetting (or probably didnt know to begin with) that kirby can sacrifice his stolen power to make a clone of the enemy he swallowed..he can do this twice, so while crash has his titan, kirby has two crashes plus himself 😛

Though he'd have to be able to swallow the enemy in the first place. I think at most I've seen him swallow 16 inches.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
1. Tele for one, and you have only seen videos of the OVA, OVA Pyron is much weaker than canon Pyron, and to ESB, same thing.

Well you are the Pyron expect. I know very little about Dark Stalkers. Not my cup of tea and all I've seen was OVA Pyron which you say is weaker than canon Pyron. Got a video or something showing canon Pyron in action?

Originally posted by CRASHBANDICOOT3
Crash just does things the simple way, no need to get fancy. he can still be invincible, control incredible titans, tornado spin, bazooka and all that other stuff I mentioned. So he doesnt automatically lose to every character. I think he'd be able to beat kirby (you say he'd duplicate him, well I think the real crash would beat a clone crash anyday) and also pound on kirby til he's the size of a golf ball using the unlimited tornado spin on him or wearing the aku aku mask and blowing him off the stage (smash style). There are alot of other characters that would be beaten just because crash would be controlling a huge titans that would seriously destroy them (i have the game and these titans have crazyass attacks that would obliterate alot of things in their way).

He NEEDS an item to become invincible, he NEEDS a titan to control them (which by the way aren't anything special. They are nothing compared to what Robotnik dishes out), he NEEDS a bazooka, and he NEEDS a jet pack to fly. Sonic doesn't NEED anything to run at the speed of sound, he doesn't NEED anything to perform a Spin Dash, he doesn't NEED anything to perform a Blue Tornado, he doesn't NEED anything to perform a Lightspeed Attack, and he doesn't NEED anything to use Sonic Wind.

You see the difference here is that you are giving Crash items, things you find in a level that can only be used for a limited time, like Sonic's Invincibility Box or a Fire Shield. These are not part of the character. Heck Luigi can walk up and find the jet pack and BOOM! he's flying around.

Originally posted by CRASHBANDICOOT3
mario or sonic both defeat crash...but not easily. it would be a good fight

Sonic WTFpwns Mario in a few seconds, Sonic WTFpwns Crash in a few seconds. Sonic is the top dog...hedgehog. Sonic's speed and abilities make him far superior than Mario and Crash. But I am glad to hear that you have learned to use a character's feats and abilities and determine who would win in a match.

Originally posted by Creshosk
We'll see how many times he can do that in the upcoming game. it looked like he had at least 5 in one shot.

Though he'd have to be able to swallow the enemy in the first place. I think at most I've seen him swallow 16 inches.

Ignore him CB3, ESB just likes to say WTFpwn a lot.

As I do. 131

Originally posted by MadMel
more like 1 metre, and besides, we dont know how tall crash is...i mean..he is a bandicoot 😛

If he can swallow 1 meter (100 centimeters or 5 times his size) then he would be able to swallow crash.

http://www.naughtydog.com/crash/crash/faqs.htm
4) Q: (a) What is a Bandicoot?
(b) Why is Crash a Bandicoot?
(c) Why is he named "Crash?"
A: (a) Crash is a Perameles gunnii, of the order POLYPROTODONTA, family Peramelidae, commonly known as the Eastern Barred Bandicoot. He is a marsupial, which means that he is born with a built in fanny pack. They live in Tasmania, a small island south of Australia, as well as on the Australian mainland. The Parameles gunnii is, on average, 320mm from head to rump, and has a 80mm tail. They weigh about 950g. Crash's family, on the other hand, tend to be about a meter tall, orange, walk on their hind legs, and wear big shoes. They have, therefore, earned a good living in the Parameles gunnii circus sideshow spinning real fast and the like.
(b) Because both of his parents were.
(c) Because that is the name his parents gave him.

Originally posted by ESB -1138
He NEEDS an item to become invincible, he NEEDS a titan to control them (which by the way aren't anything special. They are nothing compared to what Robotnik dishes out), he NEEDS a bazooka, and he NEEDS a jet pack to fly. Sonic doesn't NEED anything to run at the speed of sound, he doesn't NEED anything to perform a Spin Dash, he doesn't NEED anything to perform a Blue Tornado, he doesn't NEED anything to perform a Lightspeed Attack, and he doesn't NEED anything to use Sonic Wind.

You see the difference here is that you are giving Crash items, things you find in a level that can only be used for a limited time, like Sonic's Invincibility Box or a Fire Shield. These are not part of the character. Heck Luigi can walk up and find the jet pack and BOOM! he's flying around.

But I am glad to hear that you have learned to use a character's feats and abilities and determine who would win in a match.

yea but no character can just turn invincible on their own without the use of an item/power up. As for the titans...crash automatically whips out the aku aku mask (makin it look like it came out of his pocket which I count as a power that he now possesses...its called mojo, which is the reason crash has tattoos now because his new ability lets him jack titans by using mojo and the aku mask) so that counts as a power except that he would still need the actual titan to be there. And really, these titans have phenomenal powers...especially the bigger ones.

So the powers that crash has that dont involve items/power ups are:
1. the classic tornado spin
2. the classic Belly Flop
3. whipping out aku mask to control titans at will (which perhaps brings up the idea of...if he can control these huge monsters, cant he control anything else...wow this could mean he can actually jack and control mario, sonic, and whoever...but the trick is, he'd have to get them dizzy first. this is a very interesting concept for this battle btw)
4. the new fighting set of moves (punch, kick, spinaroony type of kick, uppercuts) nothing lethal, but atleast he's learned how to fight now.
5. no more 1 hit deaths anymore for crash, he has a health bar now.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Can you verify that? cause usually he seems to be able to swallow things only up to 2-3 times his size.

If he can swallow 1 meter (100 centimeters or 5 times his size) then he would be able to swallow crash.

Originally posted by CRASHBANDICOOT3
yea but no character can just turn invincible on their own without the use of an item/power up. As for the titans...crash automatically whips out the aku aku mask (makin it look like it came out of his pocket which I count as a power that he now possesses...its called mojo, which is the reason crash has tattoos now because his new ability lets him jack titans by using mojo and the aku mask) so that counts as a power except that he would still need the actual titan to be there. And really, these titans have phenomenal powers...especially the bigger ones.

Yeah the Auka Auka Mask makes Crash invincible. Expect he needs three and that TNT and Nitro crates still seem to injure him. And Crash actually has to put Auka Auka on the Titan for Crash to control them. Seems to me like it's more Auka Auka's power than Crash's.

Originally posted by CRASHBANDICOOT3
1. the classic tornado spin

Big deal, Sonic has the Blue Tornado which is powerful enough to suck up badniks (robots) and they weigh a lot more than Crash.

Originally posted by CRASHBANDICOOT3
2. the classic Belly Flop

Good luck hitting something with a belly flop that is moving at the speed of sound.

Originally posted by CRASHBANDICOOT3
3. whipping out aku mask to control titans at will (which perhaps brings up the idea of...if he can control these huge monsters, cant he control anything else...wow this could mean he can actually jack and control mario, sonic, and whoever...but the trick is, he'd have to get them dizzy first. this is a very interesting concept for this battle btw)

Oh so Crash can't fight on his own he needs Auka Auka. Even still Crash wouldn't be able to catch Sonic. Beat this:

YouTube video

Originally posted by CRASHBANDICOOT3
4. the new fighting set of moves (punch, kick, spinaroony type of kick, uppercuts) nothing lethal, but atleast he's learned how to fight now.

Seriously anyone can punch, kick, spin kick, and uppercut. Sonic has fought hand to hand in Sonic Battle and Sonic Fighters where he shows off his melee combat skills.

Originally posted by CRASHBANDICOOT3
5. no more 1 hit deaths anymore for crash, he has a health bar now.

Shame a health bar is a game mechanic.

Originally posted by ESB -1138
Yeah the Auka Auka Mask makes Crash invincible. Expect he needs three and that TNT and Nitro crates still seem to injure him. And Crash actually has to put Auka Auka on the Titan for Crash to control them. Seems to me like it's more Auka Auka's power than Crash's.

Big deal, Sonic has the Blue Tornado which is powerful enough to suck up badniks (robots) and they weigh a lot more than Crash.

Good luck hitting something with a belly flop that is moving at the speed of sound.

Oh so Crash can't fight on his own he needs Auka Auka. Even still Crash wouldn't be able to catch Sonic. Beat this:

YouTube video

Seriously anyone can punch, kick, spin kick, and uppercut. Sonic has fought hand to hand in Sonic Battle and Sonic Fighters where he shows off his melee combat skills.

Shame a health bar is a game mechanic.

ok first of all, I didnt say crash can beat sonic. I was only proving to you that crash is not as weak as you think.

The aku aku mask has become a part of crash it seems in the new game. for example You can whip out the aku aku mask at any point in the game to skate on him, which acelerates pretty quick too. Then you got the bubble shield that forms around crash with aku aku's face on the front of it for 5 seconds, and you can keep repeating the block move, which again, crash can do at anytime during the game. So it seems that crash's power is reliant on aku aku, but its his power none the less, or else he wouldnt be able to do it at any point. I mentioned the health bar to let you know that crash doesnt die from one hit anymore. And it also seems that the new developers of crash have dumped the idea of nitro, tnt, and aku aku boxes. So crash's invincibilty is his bubble shield, and this golden mask type of thing that automatically stuns anyone after crash collects it and kicks them. Once again, I mentioned that crash can kick, punch and other fighting combos because you probably didnt know he can do that now. which is also important to know about crash's new abilities.

just because sonic is the speed of sound, doesnt mean he'll run around in the speed of sound in the small area used to battle someone, that would have nothing to do with the fight. So crash would have a chance of doing something to hurt him, but not to defeat him ofcourse. also, they have slowed down sonic for sonic vs mario and for ssbb, which makes sense and also backs up my theory.

Originally posted by CRASHBANDICOOT3
ok first of all, I didnt say crash can beat sonic. I was only proving to you that crash is not as weak as you think.

The aku aku mask has become a part of crash it seems in the new game. for example You can whip out the aku aku mask at any point in the game to skate on him, which acelerates pretty quick too. Then you got the bubble shield that forms around crash with aku aku's face on the front of it for 5 seconds, and you can keep repeating the block move, which again, crash can do at anytime during the game. So it seems that crash's power is reliant on aku aku, but its his power none the less, or else he wouldnt be able to do it at any point. I mentioned the health bar to let you know that crash doesnt die from one hit anymore. And it also seems that the new developers of crash have dumped the idea of nitro, tnt, and aku aku boxes. So crash's invincibilty is his bubble shield, and this golden mask type of thing that automatically stuns anyone after crash collects it and kicks them. Once again, I mentioned that crash can kick, punch and other fighting combos because you probably didnt know he can do that now. which is also important to know about crash's new abilities.

just because sonic is the speed of sound, doesnt mean he'll run around in the speed of sound in the small area used to battle someone, that would have nothing to do with the fight. So crash would have a chance of doing something to hurt him, but not to defeat him ofcourse. also, they have slowed down sonic for sonic vs mario and for ssbb, which makes sense and also backs up my theory.

You make it the sense that Crash WTFPWNS Sonic.

Sonic can easily speedblitz him at the start of the battle, and skating on the Aku mask may provide him with some speed, but not enough togo faster than Sonic.And that bubble thing is he gonna instantly activate it at the start of the fight? I doubt it, And the Health Bar is only a game mechanic, this is a real battle, and Crash might only survive a few good hits before he sucumbs to his wounds, also, does the golden mask affect them when they're on the ground? Cuz if it his, Sonic can use his himing attacks to counter it. And didn't ESB also point out that Sonic can use hand to hand combat also?

And who says the fight takes place in an enclosed space? The first post didn't point that out.

Originally posted by CRASHBANDICOOT3
ok first of all, I didnt say crash can beat sonic. I was only proving to you that crash is not as weak as you think.

The aku aku mask has become a part of crash it seems in the new game. for example You can whip out the aku aku mask at any point in the game to skate on him, which acelerates pretty quick too. Then you got the bubble shield that forms around crash with aku aku's face on the front of it for 5 seconds, and you can keep repeating the block move, which again, crash can do at anytime during the game. So it seems that crash's power is reliant on aku aku, but its his power none the less, or else he wouldnt be able to do it at any point. I mentioned the health bar to let you know that crash doesnt die from one hit anymore. And it also seems that the new developers of crash have dumped the idea of nitro, tnt, and aku aku boxes. So crash's invincibilty is his bubble shield, and this golden mask type of thing that automatically stuns anyone after crash collects it and kicks them. Once again, I mentioned that crash can kick, punch and other fighting combos because you probably didnt know he can do that now. which is also important to know about crash's new abilities.

just because sonic is the speed of sound, doesnt mean he'll run around in the speed of sound in the small area used to battle someone, that would have nothing to do with the fight. So crash would have a chance of doing something to hurt him, but not to defeat him ofcourse. also, they have slowed down sonic for sonic vs mario and for ssbb, which makes sense and also backs up my theory.

And yet you have yet to mention how Crash can counter Sonic. Sonic would WTFpwn Crash in seconds like he did to all the badniks here:

YouTube video

Seriously, Crash gets cubstomped pretty bad. And Mario and Sonic and SSBB are not cannon games because we see that Sonic can easily keep up with the Tornado X while running backwards.

I already beat the Crash of the Titans demo, and the Titans are crap. They're just ovrsized animals. Nothing Sonic can't take care of.

EDIT- Also, the Akku Akku mask is still just a piece of equippment. It's not "apart" of Crash.