Pyron VS Kos-mos

Started by Fire Ninja13 pages

Originally posted by Superboy Prime

V2D claims Pyron is faster because he is as big as a galaxy and therefor he can travel the most distance in the shortest time. However ....Pyron is not always at this level. Quite in fact he has never been canonically at this level.

Kos-Mos on other hand has shown time and time again that she has great combat speed. Not to mention that it is possible to do battle in hyperspace in the Xenosaga universe.

You decide.

Well, Pyron cannot grow to size of a galaxy, I dunno how many times I've said that. He can grow to something comparable to say a dwarf star. As for his gaint form, that's part of his power set. I've never seen any canon claim that it is not possible. . .So, I don't see why it cannot be used. Though, If KOS-MOS can one shot a solar system and take solar system busting shots. Then pyron's size is irrelevant.

Originally posted by Superboy Prime

Pyron didn't even see Demitri's energy absorbing abilities and paid for it.

You decide.

That's a bit different, Demitri's powers are based on high-Level Sorcery and Magic. Something that pyron is not familiar with or really capable of handling. Reason being is that magic is the biggest plot device in fiction. It dwarfs super science, because you can literally do anything right on the spot. Even though his defeat was ambigous, Pyron was screwed either way. But, your right, KOS-MOS does display better battle intelligence.

Originally posted by Superboy Prime

Immunity to energy attacks won't save him. She simply absorbs him. If she doesn't feel like it she makes him gain physical body with her Hilbert Effect and blast him with the TWS, or Phase Transfer Cannon.

Kos-Mos's Ver. 3 actually took a solar system vaporizing blast and was not even scratched. Granted she lost, but it is a testament to how durable her body actually is.

Pyron is not immune too energy attack, I have no idea where this is coming from. Also, pyron is already physical and not an abstract being. He's simply composed of energy. But, yeah, if he's hit by a Solar system busting blast. . .Gameover.

As for absorbing her, if KOS-MOS can absorb a being with as much energy output as pyron. You said she absorbed the infinite energy of Zophar, So, I think she can.

Originally posted by Superboy Prime

How exactly has he demonstrated more H2H skill? The only thing he has above her is shapeshifting. I don't see how that qualifies him as the better H2H combatant.

You decide.

Done.

I have no idea, but what does an energy based bing need h2h for?

Originally posted by Usual Suspect
I thought so too. But that was cuz people feed me bull shit and at that time I just beleived it cuz I didn't know much about Xenosaga at the time, but now I know.

Pyron is stronger: Due to the fact that he can smash planets with is barehands

He is faster: Teleportation

He's smarter: He can learn kosmos just by watching her for a few moments.

Far more durable: She has no means to hurt him.

etc.

Makes sence.

Pyron has no way if dealing with high level Makai magic. He'd lose either way. . .

How is KOS-MOS gonna beat Pyron? If Pyron can use all his power.

Originally posted by Triple Six
How is KOS-MOS gonna beat Pyron? If Pyron can use all his power.

Do you bother to read every post or do you just decide to read and quote the post that favors the capcom character?

Originally posted by Triple Six
How is KOS-MOS gonna beat Pyron? If Pyron can use all his power.

Absorbing her or blowing his ass away.

Originally posted by Superboy Prime
Do you bother to read every post or do you just decide to read and quote the post that favores the capcom character?
Yo, chill out, dont get your panties in a bunch.

Your ways on how he will lose are not good. Pyron is greater in nearly every aspect.

Originally posted by Fire Ninja
Absorbing her or blowing his ass away.
Pyron can do the same thing to her though.

Pyron can blow up a solar system, mane?

simply put, pyron simply has less ways to beat Kos-mos she has the very object, not through magic ofc but through her tech that allows her to absorb his energy however pyrons absorbtion speed, amount, etc etc is unkown

Originally posted by Triple Six
I dont think she has the cpacity to absorb him. Not to mention he can do the samething.

ROFL.

FYI Kos-Mos interfaces directly with the Zohar. The ultimate energy device in the Xenosagaverse. A Zohar Emulator was enough to absorb planets. Please tell me you're capable of realizing what she can do with the real Zohar.

Originally posted by Triple Six
Yo, chill out, dont get your panties in a bunch.

Your ways on how he will lose are not good. Pyron is greater in nearly every aspect.

Actually I'm cool. My only dilema is that I simply cannot understand how could you ask something that had already been posted more than 3 times in a row. But no one's perfect, so I apologize for being rude. I have a bit of a bad habit.

I think he meant absorb her energy.

Originally posted by Fire Ninja
Pyron can blow up a solar system, mane?
No, but from the Vid I seen KOS-Mos Can't either . Not tomention he can just teleport out of the way.

He may not be able to destroy a solar instantly but KOS-MOS's durability does not equal a solar sytem.

Originally posted by Fire Ninja
I think he meant absorb her energy.
Thank you, you need to tell these guys to calm the f**k down, they are ready to bite your head off, every time somthing is posted that they don't like.

Originally posted by Fire Ninja
I think he meant absorb her energy.

Yeah. Which is why I edited that out of my post.

Originally posted by Triple Six
No, but from the Vid I seen KOS-Mos Can't either . Not tomention he can just teleport out of the way.

He may not be able to destroy a solar instantly but KOS-MOS's durability does not equal a solar sytem.

Please make your way to Kos-Mos's respect thread.

Yeah, he can teleport out the way. But, KOS-MOS high process android brain would be able to find a pattern in pyrons teleporting method and telegraph him.

Originally posted by Superboy Prime
Give me actual proof of him owning a Galaxy with brute strength alone. Since he is...you know, just energy. I have posted many of Kos-Mos strength feats. They are visible and undeniable. You don't see nor know about them because you just don't like her. They are right there in her respect thread. I put them in there myself. You just sepculate on and on hoping you will get to convince someone. Things don't work that way.

So Pyron is faster than Kos-Mos because Kos-Mos can move at sub-light speed? Where are Pyron's speed feats? Oh yeah...speculation again... because he MUST START THE FIGHT AS BIG AS A GALAXY. Also did you forget that she can move at lightspeed with Dinah? What? You want Pyron to be as huge as the fricking andromeda galaxy. I'll have her use everything at her disposal. Sounds fair to me.

Hilarious.

Kos-Mos is very durable. Pyron will have to dish out a lot of damage if he hopes to hurt Kos-Mos, let alone destroy her. However how exactly is he more durable? He is just energy is he not? How can energy be....durable? Bingo.

Kos-Mos HAS more power. Even without the Tertiary Weapon System Kos-Mos has shown much more power than Pyron. For starters she can vaporize an entire solar system with the Phase Transfer Canon which is a part of her equipment in her version 4 body. If we count the TWS Pyron is just an ant.

Kos-Mos has so many ways to humiliate Pyron For starters she can make him gain corporal form. Secondly she can blast him to smithereens. And finally she can absorb him just like Demitri did.

End of story.

If he starts as a big as a galaxy.

She can be very accurate with her shots. Yep I'd call it even.

Kos-Mos can analize a million mathematical equations in an instant. She is actually smart as ****. Her only real flaw is that she is difficult to deal with because she puts mathematical analisis above everything to complete her mission.

Pyron was not smart enough to realize Demitri would absorb him. His Cosmic Awareness didn't help him there, buddy. Kos-Mos completely analized T-elos fighting capacity and power output. She knew T-elos was 4.75 times more powerful than her and that she would do. Pyron thought he was all of that...and got pawned. Not to mention all the times Kos-Mos has used her computer-like intelligence to save Shion and the party throughout the games....even in defeating opponents such as the Black Testament.

Kos-Mos has fighting capacity as well. Why exactly is Pyron better than her? Because he beat on people that are no where near her level? I'm not buying it. Kos-Mos was actually good enough to hold her ground against an opponent that was 4 times stronger, faster, more durable and powerful than her. Pyron couldn't even defeat a weakened Demitri.

LoL.

Oh...and one more thing...How will Pyron defend himself from Kos-Mos absorbing him? You have yet to prove how Pyron will escape this fate. And don't try to evade it by syaing Kos-Mos wouldn't know that would **** him up....because please, its very obvious and she is a fricking android with a super advanced A.I. from a highly advanced civilization.

1. Okay. If Pyron cannot punch a galaxy at that size, going by your logic he also cannot be hurt by physical means. Pwnt. Also, would it not just be easier for you to tell me what class she is? Also, he can change size near instantly.

2. KOSMOS can only even move at sub-light when she is using TWS is what I read. Also, since UDON comics show canon abilities, and Pyron after 65,000,000 years of being away from Earth got there in a short time, yeah, I would say he's faster.

3. You got a point, it cannot in the technical sense be durable, but he can literally let things go straight thru him. Can KOSMOS survive multiple mini stars being sent on her ass?

4. I know. Btw, I finally looked at the TWS vid, laughable. The most that was destroyed was a solar system, AND SHE DIDN'T EVEN DO IT ALONE! It is a beam, beam's don't blow up by themselves, her beam had to crash with another's to even do that. Also, Pyron can easily dodge her attacks via tele, and can even delay when he reappears. He also has an impenetrable force shield which he summons at will.

5. How does making him gain corporal form work? Also, Pyron can swich from corporal to intangible at will. How can you blast energy to smithereins? Also, Tele and force field ftw. As for the absorption, Pyron can do that as well, and can avoid her's via tele. Pyron can also tele KOSMOS as well, by wrapping his shield around her, and can even become the shield to trap her, or tele her. Pyron with shapeshifting alone gives him multiple different attacks, like his famous flame uppercut, his flaming wheel, he can make long spines shoot from his hand to impale her, and the like. So does his control over cosmic fire. He can toss some mini suns on her ass!

6. He can extend his arms as long as he wants. 😐 Phail.

7. Kay.

8. Pyron also weakened himself to conform to the laws of corperal combat when he went to Earth. 😐 He lost to Demitri due to that, and the fact that Demitri had powerful magic, and was at least 80% power, which is not that weakened. Pyron is immensley smart, he even makes complex and powerful machine heralds in the palm of his hand, that takes power and brains.

9. He was at their level back then, and all fights were H2H, his stance appears to also be somewhat similar to boxing during gameplay. Once again, magic plus weakening himself ftw, and Demitri is quite good at H2H as well just so you know.

10. Tele behind her. He could just absorb her too you know. 😬

Pyron ftw. He had to weaken himself to even fight on equal terms with the DSers, and only lost because of that.

Pyron is not an incorporeal being, he's just composed of energy. Oh, and can somebody post KOS-MOS blowing up a solar system in shot or the weapon that she uses blowing one up.

Originally posted by Superboy Prime
Do you bother to read every post or do you just decide to read and quote the post that favors the capcom character?
Is that even a question?

Okay, so, here's what we know:

Combat Speed: Pyron due to this teleportation ability.

Intelligence: KOS-MOS in terms of analysis and combat.

Power: I dunno, I need to see some vids of KOS-MOS blowing up the things they say she can.

Durability: Same as above, I've seen her fight with her copy, but did she really take a solar system busting blast?