Originally posted by Darkstorm ZeroThere were 3 things working against Pyron.
I'm not sure...If Kos can emulate what Demitri did, then fo sizzle it's possible to beat him.
1. Pyron is arrogant.
2. Demitri wields powerful magic, which trumps super science like Pyron's powers.
3. Pyron WEAKENED himself before he fought anyone.
Originally posted by Violent2Dope
There were 3 things working against Pyron.1. Pyron is arrogant.
2. Demitri wields powerful magic, which trumps super science like Pyron's powers.
3. Pyron WEAKENED himself before he fought anyone.
#1: True
#2: Pyron's powers arn't scientific, and Kos Mos's technology was able to siphon energy of much greater degrees than what Pyron has demonstrated being capable of producing.... Thats what I'm sure I saw in those videos... weather or not it actually can emulate what Demitri did I'm still uncertain of, since Pyron is actually a living thing, and not a celestial body, this is why I stress the word IF.
3: True, but we're now talking about someone who can match his full power and not Demitri... however, Demitri did absorb him completely, so if Kos Mos can emulate what Demitri did, I don't see why it won't work.
Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero2. Pyron wields vast cosmic power, cosmic power is scientific power.
#1: True#2: Pyron's powers arn't scientific, and Kos Mos's technology was able to siphon energy of much greater degrees than what Pyron has demonstrated being capable of producing.... Thats what I'm sure I saw in those videos... weather or not it actually can emulate what Demitri did I'm still uncertain of, since Pyron is actually a living thing, and not a celestial body, this is why I stress the word [b]IF
.3: True, but we're now talking about someone who can match his full power and not Demitri... however, Demitri did absorb him completely, so if Kos Mos can emulate what Demitri did, I don't see why it won't work. [/B]
3. KOSMOS can possibly do it, but Demitri had to first fight Pyron before absorbing him, and Demitri implied the battle was hard fought, and this is a weakened Pyron. Also, he absorption can be avoided and countered by teleporting behind her. Pyron is faster and physically stronger than KOSMOS, and is superior in H2H, he has the melee battle in the bag for sure.
Originally posted by Violent2Dope
2. Pyron wields vast cosmic power, cosmic power is scientific power.3. KOSMOS can possibly do it, but Demitri had to first fight Pyron before absorbing him, and Demitri implied the battle was hard fought, and this is a weakened Pyron. Also, he absorption can be avoided and countered by teleporting behind her. Pyron is faster and physically stronger than KOSMOS, and is superior in H2H, he has the melee battle in the bag for sure.
#2: Since when? Pyron's power is the result of self evolution based on fighting power, AKA Ki, since when is Ki considered a sientiffically proven power?
#3: I don't know enough about Kos-mos to draw a conclusion like that.
I only came in here to address something I disagreed with...
Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero2. Ki? The hell? He became so powerful by evolving because of the harsh environment of Hellstorm, and evolution is a science.
#2: Since when? Pyron's power is the result of self evolution based on fighting power, AKA Ki, since when is Ki considered a sientiffically proven power?#3: I don't know enough about Kos-mos to draw a conclusion like that.
I only came in here to address something I disagreed with...
3. I have learned stuffs about her, like how she actually can't destroy a universe.
Originally posted by Violent2Dope
2. Ki? The hell? He became so powerful by evolving because of the harsh environment of Hellstorm, and evolution is a science.3. I have learned stuffs about her, like how she actually can't destroy a universe.
#2: Do you remember what made Hellstorm so harsh? it wasn't the weather...
Evolution itself is a science yes, but Hellstorms inhabitatnts where single mindedly determined to master their fighting cabalitity, and Pyron is in essence a huge clout of living Ki as a result of him masteriong it so completely that he trancended physical form.
Originally posted by Darkstorm ZeroHellstorm was a planet filled with beings trying to evolve into more powerful beings, and they did so by having deathmatches among eachother. This is not SF, Ki does not exist in the DS world.He became a giant cloud of cosmic fire, not ki, hell, his skeleton is a constellation!
#2: Do you remember what made Hellstorm so harsh? it wasn't the weather...Evolution itself is a science yes, but Hellstorms inhabitatnts where single mindedly determined to master their fighting cabalitity, and Pyron is in essence a huge clout of living Ki as a result of him masteriong it so completely that he trancended physical form.
Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Hellstorm was a planet filled with beings trying to evolve into more powerful beings, and they did so by having deathmatches among eachother. This is not SF, Ki does not exist in the DS world.He became a giant cloud of cosmic fire, not ki, hell, his skeleton is a constellation!
Ki does not exist in DS?! thats a huge leap of logic, try tellimg me that after dealing with Jon Talbain or Bishamon...
AND, Pyron's ki evolved to that extent, a coporeal being doesn't simply become a cloud of cosmic nuclear energy.
Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero1. Bishamon is a human possessed by a Makai Sword and Armor, that use magic. Talbain, you may be right, but that could also just be Makai magic. No proof Pyron's ki evolved at all, or if he even has any.
Ki does not exist in DS?! thats a huge leap of logic, try tellimg me that after dealing with Jon Talbain or Bishamon...AND, Pyron's ki evolved to that extent, a coporeal being doesn't simply become a cloud of cosmic nuclear energy.
Originally posted by Darkstorm ZeroPyron in the palm of his hand instantly made a small army of Phobos, complex robots with vast power. I'd say Pyron has a pretty good understanding of science.
No proof to the contrary either, and since Pyron knows about as much of sience as my left testicle, I'm more inclined to say it's Ki on steroids that makes up Pyron's energy form rather than some unexplainable scienfic protratction, especially since science is supposed to be explainable.
Originally posted by Darkstorm ZeroNope. It was the boundaries of his mind. Read it again. He is smart enough to instantly learn the human language, and could tell from looking at earth that the creatures would evolve into powerful ones with great life force. Pyron's understanding of science ain't so shabby.
His imagination is what his powers use, not his scientific knowlege... That's even quoted in those comic scans...You should know that...
Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Nope. It was the boundaries of his mind. Read it again. He is smart enough to instantly learn the human language, and could tell from looking at earth that the creatures would evolve into powerful ones with great life force. Pyron's understanding of science ain't so shabby.
Thats cosmic AWARENESS... not scientific knowlege...
There's a difference bitween intelligence, knowlege, and wisdom. Until you can differentiate bitween the three of these, please don't try to tell me what he posesses.
Originally posted by Darkstorm ZeroHe could make complex working robots with vast power. He does not think,"DUR MAKE BIG ROBOTS" to do it.
Thats cosmic AWARENESS... not scientific knowlege...There's a difference bitween intelligence, knowlege, and wisdom. Until you can differentiate bitween the three of these, please don't try to tell me what he posesses.