Originally posted by Schecterdude, the guy who was beat down took a cops gun and SHOT HIM IN THE FACE. and the cops motives were questioned when the shooter showed back up in court with a swelled up face.
irrelevant. just like the video you posted. no cops were attacked in that video.
how can you say the cops werent attacked?
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
dude, the guy who was beat down took a cops gun and SHOT HIM IN THE FACE. and the cops motives were questioned when the shooter showed back up in court with a swelled up face.
the point is that an officer of the law is given a degree of power which in the face of a civilian is nearly absolute. we the people submit this power to them willingly, under the assumption that they fulfull their oath to god and their country, to objectively enforce the law. enforcing the law does not involve acts of vengeance. therefore, they were clearly wrong in their actions, despite how many times you type "SHOT IN THE FACE!!1".
it was their job, their duty, their oath, to apprehend him and bring him before a court of law, where he would THEN be judged by a jury of his peers. this is whats called "due process" and is the cornerstone of the american system of justice. its one of those things thats supposed to define us as a free and just country.
Originally posted by SchecterWTF does that have to do with the following statement?
im aware of the dangers a cop must face and the horror when that danger is realised in such a way.the point is that an officer of the law is given a degree of power which in the face of a civilian is nearly absolute. we the people submit this power to them willingly, under the assumption that they fulfull their oath to god and their country, to objectively enforce the law. enforcing the law does not involve acts of vengeance. therefore, they were clearly wrong in their actions, despite how many times you type "SHOT IN THE FACE!!1".
it was their job, their duty, their oath, to apprehend him and bring him before a court of law, where he would THEN be judged by a jury of his peers. this is whats called "due process" and is the cornerstone of the american system of justice. its one of those things thats supposed to define us as a free and just country.
Originally posted by Schecteryou said no cops were attacked in the vid. I proved they were. I never tried to justify their actions, only that they were in fact attacked.
irrelevant. just like the video you posted. no cops were attacked in that video.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
WTF does that have to do with the following statement?you said no cops were attacked in the vid. I proved they were. I never tried to justify their actions, only that they were in fact attacked.
it was mentioned in passing that a cop was shot. so the fact stands that no cops were attacked in that video. you are wrong. i know this will set off a series of dodge and dance posts where you avoid the fact that you are clearly wrong, so ill leave it at that: no cops were attacked in that video. fact.
have your last word/personal attack/accusation/implication
Originally posted by Schectermentioned in passing? the guy was at police HQ being questioned, grabbed a cops gun and shot him in the face. he leapt from a window, was captured, and the cops beat the piss outta him.
it was mentioned in passing that a cop was shot. so the fact stands that no cops were attacked in that video. you are wrong. i know this will set off a series of dodge and dance posts where you avoid the fact that you are clearly wrong, so ill leave it at that: no cops were attacked in that video. fact.have your last word/personal attack/accusation/implication
then the reporters were questioning the cops motives, accusing them of brutality and shit.
of all that happened, you see NO attack on the cops?
here are the FACTS:
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
here are the FACTS:
Wow. That's f**king bullshit if I ever read it. How does one's entire face end up with impact damage? The face is not a cube...its not like the whole front side of his face could have landed flat on the ground causes swelling all over his face with various wounds. It is obvious that he got roughed up before he was brought back. In fact, it is so obvious that he got roughed up, his face should be included with a "FAIL" or a "PWN3D" message underneath to be used on message boards.
Originally posted by dadudemonI never denied the fact that the cops beat the hell outta him, it's painfully obvious they did.
Wow. That's f**king bullshit if I ever read it. How does one's entire face end up with impact damage? The face is not a cube...its not like the whole front side of his face could have landed flat on the ground causes swelling all over his face with various wounds. It is obvious that he got roughed up before he was brought back. In fact, it is so obvious that he got roughed up, his face should be included with a "FAIL" or a "PWN3D" message underneath to be used on message boards.
Originally posted by dadudemonbacause he said there were NO attacks on the police.
So why did you put "here are the FACTS"? Was that facetiousness?I'm lost bro.
attack number one was when the guy shot the cop in the face.
attack number two is when the media accused the cops of excessive force.
two attacks.
what the cops did to the shooter is not the issue here.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
bacause he said there were NO attacks on the police.attack number one was when the guy shot the cop in the face.
attack number two is when the media accused the cops of excessive force.
two attacks.
what the cops did to the shooter is not the issue here.
AHHH. I understand. I didn't read the entire thread so that explains my being lost.
As far as that video goes, I can say two things.
1. I certainly have no sympathy or pity for the guy with the silly swolen face. He murdered a cop in cold blood, whatever nasty stuff happens to him is a result is his own doing.
2. It's not in the cops job to beat the shit out of someone like that, regardless of what they've done. In fact, that is exactly what they are supposed to avoid. They took the law into their own hands before he was put on trial, and what they did was clearly against regulations.
Worth reiterating, though, I have no sympathy for the guy, may he be raped and sodomized to death by a man with a 17 inch dick for all I care.
Also worth noting that the guy's face woulda made one awesome Halloween mask. Wish they sold a replica of that at Target.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
you were BORN to be a GDFer, I can tell you that much. they should welcome you with open arms here.Let's break this down sep by step, as if you were a child....
1. You asked a question
2. I answered your question
3. You claim that I failed to answer your question
4. I point out where the answer is
5. You don't like the answer I gave, so you don't acknowledge it as an answer.
Is that clear enough for you? Come on now, put on the old thinking cap.
You can be condescending and spend hours upon hours explaining yourself until your face turns different colors, Rogue Jedi ...
BUT you still won't understand because you have a keen ability to hear but lack the ability to LISTEN, it seems.
You did not answer my question. You directed me to the thread title, which did not tell me how it was relevant OR parallel to the incidents shown within the thread which happens to be what I asked.
As I said previously, I'll explain this in various ways and hope you can understand one of them. That's all, friend.