Xemnas & Lu Bu VS Dark Nihilus & Vergil (TWIST)

Started by Violent2Dope3 pages
Violent2Dope Restricted

Originally posted by Burning thought
did i? when did i say he fought things like Nihilias beofre

am i incorrect that force users use a lot of force skills to determine and concentrate their attacks, their speed and speed doesnt just come from training and neither does their reflexes, with this stripped away the guy is going to be at a disadvantage, and i think Xemnas will to which is why i think the main battle would be between lu-bu and vergil

First of all, Gear, I love KH, wtf gave you that idea?

BT, you said he has fought many with abilities like Nihilus and Vergil before, when he clearly has not. You are right, Force users use the Force to enhance physical abilities in saber fights, but still possess potent swordsmanship skills. Also, going by size, Nihilus may be the physically strongest guy here. 6'7" ftw! Xemnas IMO will be the most disadvantaged, all of his swordsmanship seems to come from his supernatural status.

shin_gear Restricted

You two seriously need to put each other on ignore.

Violent2Dope Restricted

We are being civil in this debate. 😐

Burning thought Restricted

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
First of all, Gear, I love KH, wtf gave you that idea?

BT, you said he has fought many with abilities like Nihilus and Vergil before, when he clearly has not. You are right, Force users use the Force to enhance physical abilities in saber fights, but still possess potent swordsmanship skills. Also, going by size, Nihilus may be the physically strongest guy here. 6'7" ftw! Xemnas IMO will be the most disadvantaged, all of his swordsmanship seems to come from his supernatural status.

2. did i? hmm...afaik he hasnt, i was just saying he has a lot of experiance against many enemies in battle and hes a offensive military general it seems as well, his skill afaik is less powered by his abilities than the others all seem to be and without their powers, they may be at a disadvantage and not fair so well in comaprsion, perhaps your rite about Nihilus.

Violent2Dope Restricted

Originally posted by Burning thought
2. did i? hmm...afaik he hasnt, i was just saying he has a lot of experiance against many enemies in battle and hes a offensive military general it seems as well, his skill afaik is less powered by his abilities than the others all seem to be and without their powers, they may be at a disadvantage and not fair so well in comaprsion, perhaps your rite about Nihilus.
Nihilus with his powers is Galactus inspired(he's also the guy in my avy and sig), he can TK whole fleets and tear them from the planet's surface, and he eats planets, only he does it by simply speaking(no shit). Lu Bu certainly has the most military experience, but he is not in control of an army now, it is just him, and Xemnas will be a liability. I can't see them winning.

Remindme Over the hills

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
First of all, Gear, I love KH, wtf gave you that idea?

BT, you said he has fought many with abilities like Nihilus and Vergil before, when he clearly has not. You are right, Force users use the Force to enhance physical abilities in saber fights, but still possess potent swordsmanship skills. Also, going by size, Nihilus may be the physically strongest guy here. 6'7" ftw! Xemnas IMO will be the most disadvantaged, all of his swordsmanship seems to come from his supernatural status.

No, Nihilus without force powers is not stronger than Lu Bu, who swung around a 6 stone+ Pike with one hand during battle. Though this is almost irrelevent because.....

Their Strength is equalized.

Though you may include things like, Lu Bu with a large weapon will be the slowest, however with the largest weapon he also has most force behind his attacks.

Xemnas in terms of skill is who i rate the weakest, however, he has 2 weapons which is automatically a huge boost.

Violent2Dope Restricted

Originally posted by Remindme
No, Nihilus without force powers is not stronger than Lu Bu, who swung around a 6 stone+ Pike with one hand during battle. Though this is almost irrelevent because.....

Their Strength is equalized.

Though you may include things like, Lu Bu with a large weapon will be the slowest, however with the largest weapon he also has most force behind his attacks.

Xemnas in terms of skill is who i rate the weakest, however, he has 2 weapons which is automatically a huge boost.

So if I get sticks it is now a huge boost lol? Xemnas' swordskills almost entirely revolve around his supernatural nature, he WILL cause Lu Bu to lose.

Remindme Over the hills
Originally posted by Violent2Dope
So if I get sticks it is now a huge boost lol? Xemnas' swordskills almost entirely revolve around his supernatural nature, he WILL cause Lu Bu to lose.

His weapon skills revolves around his abilities? I'm not sure where that rumor came from but, to prove them wrong here his is toying with Sora in Final Mix. He does not use flying or teleportation.
YouTube video

Violent2Dope Restricted

If you're gonna base his swordplay on that vid alone, he phails, as he showed no impressive swordskills in it.

Remindme Over the hills

Well, you've seen it's not his super ability of nothingness that where in his acrobatics lie.

I'd say he was pretty quick, plus the coodrination of his attacks was flawless.

Anyway, instead of criticising how poor his skill is, how about you post a video on Nihilus skill, so you have something on your side.

Violent2Dope Restricted

Originally posted by Remindme
Well, you've seen it's not his super ability of nothingness that where in his acrobatics lie.

I'd say he was pretty quick, plus the coodrination of his attacks was flawless.

Anyway, instead of criticising how poor his skill is, how about you post a video on Nihilus skill, so you have something on your side.

Prove that he didn't use Nothingness to enhance his acrobatics. 😉

He was quick, but his combos were just simple flurries.

Kay, but KOTOR2 is hard to judge skill based on gameplay.

Remindme Over the hills

Hahahah, very nice, you got me there. I can't prove it. Though it just doesn't seem like it if you can understand my point?

I think those attack would be hard to predict and hard to block or dodge myself.

Violent2Dope Restricted

Originally posted by Remindme
Hahahah, very nice, you got me there. I can't prove it. Though it just doesn't seem like it if you can understand my point?

I think those attack would be hard to predict and hard to block or dodge myself.

They were just normal side to side slashes. 😐

Remindme Over the hills

Doesn't matter, while he's flipping about like that, the attacks are so damn hard to see where there coming from.

Violent2Dope Restricted

Originally posted by Remindme
Doesn't matter, while he's flipping about like that, the attacks are so damn hard to see where there coming from.
Flipping? I didn't see him flip once. He just jumped foreward with some side to side slashes.

Csdabest Senior Member

Anyone that says that one person has better combat skills that has a hard time handeling up to 4 to 5 warriors will solo a universe a characters that are historical legends and in game has soloed armies is brain dead.

Violent2Dope Restricted

I know Lu Bu is the most skilled here, but Xemnas IMO brings him down.

Remindme Over the hills
Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Flipping? I didn't see him flip once. He just jumped foreward with some side to side slashes.

.....WTF.....He flips over 7 times! Watch the video, when he starts using both bladee, every melee combo he flips on the last or second last attack

Violent2Dope Restricted

Oh yeah, that just proves he had to use Nothingness to do it, that is impossible for a man his height and mass to do things like that continuously, and since he is pretty much just a normal human now, he would get tired quickly.

Remindme Over the hills

True, but would he tire before he kill someone or gets killed?

My personal thinking, Under the current circumstances:

Lu Bu > Vergil or Nihilus

Xemnas = Nihilus

Xemnas < Vergil