Originally posted by Burning thought
why? if we know nothing on it, then nothing can be truely garanteed, ofc your opinion can be that its guaranteed i suppose.
Shall we look upon fact then?
Sageras is probably the strongest entity in the entire Warcraft universe.. Near his level, in my opinion is the Old Gods as individuals.. Slightly beneath their powers, we got Eonar, Highfather, Aggramar and Elune..
Then if we look further down on the list of powerful characters.. Beneath the pantheon and some others, we'll find the five Aspects.. Beneath them, we have Kil'Jaeden and Archimonde..
Ner'Zhul was empowered by Kil'Jaeden.. He may have exceeded Kil'Jaeden in power ((Possibly.. Only rumor))
I myself believe that Ner'Zhul is Aspect power at his best..
Since we're fighting him in the next WoW expansion.. Him and Malygos.. And since we'll be getting Alex's help in the Malygos fight, and no official information concerning his fight..
I'd say he's slightly beneath or around Aspect level.. and an aspect has only a portion of a Pantheon's strength..
thats fair enough but those facts dont mean mucn in comparsion to the fusion of Arthas and freed nerzuel
id say hes far beyond aspect, i belive Kil'jaeden>aspect surely
Sargerus, hmm, i dont think Sarg simply because of Blizzards concentration on Arthas now would "easily" beat nerzuel, hes been double crossed by Sarg before, and his powers seem furthered, Sarg seems more of a warrior class/warlock to me if you used WoW classes system, wheras Nerzuel has an incredible mind combined with Arthas' old paladin training, deathknight, his own Shaman and Warlock like magics and necromacy, his move list is probably beyond Sargs
although powerwise, ime just going to wait to see what Arthas can do before i pass judgement on him.
Originally posted by Burning thought
thats fair enough but those facts dont mean mucn in comparsion to the fusion of Arthas and freed nerzuelid say hes far beyond aspect, i belive Kil'jaeden>aspect surely
Sargerus, hmm, i dont think Sarg simply because of Blizzards concentration on Arthas now would "easily" beat nerzuel, hes been double crossed by Sarg before, and his powers seem furthered, Sarg seems more of a warrior class/warlock to me if you used WoW classes system, wheras Nerzuel has an incredible mind combined with Arthas' old paladin training, deathknight, his own Shaman and Warlock like magics and necromacy, his move list is probably beyond Sargs
although powerwise, ime just going to wait to see what Arthas can do before i pass judgement on him.
Kil'Jaeden > Aspect? Depends on which aspect and when..
Sargeras is more than just a mere warrior/warlock.. And Ner'Zhul has never fooled Sargeras.. he fooled Kil'Jaeden, which is indeed an impressive move.. Dont get me wrong, because I consider Ner'Zhul horribly horribly powerful.. I'd say he's the most powerful Demi-God around.. But he stand no chance against the Dark Titan
Originally posted by Burning thought
sure because then i was defending Raziel against your theories of what Ner'zuel would do, i know i can defend Raziel against your theories for arguments sake but two Warcraft characters, ime not so sure, Also Raziel has advantages himself that neither have.
I would almost guarantee that I'm the biggest Ner'Zhul fanboy around here.. My mind is horribly open to what he's capable of, post-fusion.. And I cant even imagine how he can possibly even be close to defeat Sargeras..
well maybe your overrating Sargerus, remember as powerful as he is, Kiljaeden (i know, hes nothing on sarg) but kiljaeden is fooled, Kil'jaeden is "possibly" below the power of the Fusion (Nerzuel/Arthas) now, i would certainly sway in that direction and Nerzuel is now free from his shackles of the Frozen throne and is said to be among the most power on Azeroth, now that includes Old-Gods nad elune as well..among the most powerful, ofcourse they may mean hes a level below, but thats not fair to assume when hes put in that "among the most powerful" list, until 100% sure he cant, his mind powers are exceptional and now his free and has a body heavens knows what he could get up to
i think Ttians are slightly overrated due to their godlike nature, however their not true gods their the same Demi-god status as Ner'zuel often is, hell Nerz'uel could if you take into effect the cult of the damned as worshiping him that he may be a full God by the rules, making him a higher rank if rank is taken into this. I think Sarg as strong as he is, his own battles and feets are not 100% outlined, especially after his corruption and the loss of half the ultimate weapon his power may be incredibly broken.
Originally posted by Burning thought
well maybe your overrating Sargerus, remember as powerful as he is, Kiljaeden (i know, hes nothing on sarg) but kiljaeden is fooled, Kil'jaeden is "possibly" below the power of the Fusion (Nerzuel/Arthas) now, i would certainly sway in that direction and Nerzuel is now free from his shackles of the Frozen throne and is said to be among the most power on Azeroth, now that includes Old-Gods nad elune as well..among the most powerful, ofcourse they may mean hes a level below, but thats not fair to assume when hes put in that "among the most powerful" list, until 100% sure he cant, his mind powers are exceptional and now his free and has a body heavens knows what he could get up toi think Ttians are slightly overrated due to their godlike nature, however their not true gods their the same Demi-god status as Ner'zuel often is, hell Nerz'uel could if you take into effect the cult of the damned as worshiping him that he may be a full God by the rules, making him a higher rank if rank is taken into this. I think Sarg as strong as he is, his own battles and feets are not 100% outlined, especially after his corruption and the loss of half the ultimate weapon his power may be incredibly broken.
Sargeras doesn't reside on Azeroth.. Nor does Highfather and the others, from what's rumored at least.. Where Elune is, is probably most unknown of it all.. When they say that he's among the most powerful entities in Azeroth, I think "among" means "Aspect class"