Ukt. Namor vs Ult. Hulk

Originally posted by Bol Gath

Oh and to address you point Gecko...... Namor beats Hulk because he's smart enough to fight him in ways that benefit himself only! And I remember when a weakened Hulk almost pwnd the entire east and west coast avengers by himself.... A weakened Hulk did that, so don't try to say that Namor is Hulk's superior in the strength department because he isn't.

But in this fight Ult-Namor will win a solid majority 7-8/10 the remaining 2-3 wins goes to Hulk when Namor tries to beat him H2H!!!

1. Namor's base is above Hulk's base
2. Why would Ult namor try to beat him in hand to hand if He thinks the same way as his 616 counterpart (who is undefeated)

You seem to be under the impression that Hulks strength is slowly rising.... That is WRONG!!!! it usually rises instantly. If Hulk finds himself in a situation where he's not strong enough he immediately grows stronger.

So while Namors base might be a little higher it isn't by much. A calm hulk has held tectonic plates together (a couple of trillion tons) and supported 150 billion tons during secret wars WITHOUT being enraged.

Put Namor against WWH and see what happens or better yet against the Hulk that cracked Onslaughts armour.

I agree Namor wins but isn't because strength, in that department hes inferior to the Hulk.

Originally posted by Bol Gath
You seem to be under the impression that Hulks strength is slowly rising.... That is WRONG!!!! it usually rises instantly. If Hulk finds himself in a situation where he's not strong enough he immediately grows stronger.

So while Namors base might be a little higher it isn't by much. A calm hulk has held tectonic plates together (a couple of trillion tons) and supported 150 billion tons during secret wars WITHOUT being enraged.

Put Namor against WWH and see what happens or better yet against the Hulk that cracked Onslaughts armour.

I agree Namor wins but isn't because strength, in that department hes inferior to the Hulk.

Originally posted by Hyperion 07
He didn't instantly get strong enough to life the mountain easily did he? There goes that argument.

he doesnt even know what he is arguing

He held it in place. And that was not one of his stronger persona. Mindless or Savage Hulk would have little to no problem holding it in place. And you avoided the fact that he has held tectonic plates in place and I promise you they are A LOT heavier than that mountain. Besides of course he couldn't just throw it of, it would shatter beneath it's own weight, the only option he had was to brace it while the others tunneled out. No one without tactile telekinesis or massive telekinesis could lift that mountain without it crumbling under it's on weight.

BTW, modern Hulk (WWH) is so much stronger than he was back then it's not even funny.

Tell me, when has Hulk not been able to do something strength related? (except trying to lift Thors hammer, which he can't because of the enchantments placed on it not it's weight)

Originally posted by Gecko4lif
he doesnt even know what he is arguing

As I said Ult-Namor wins a solid majority just like regular Namor does. Just not because of his strength!

Originally posted by Bol Gath
He held it in place. And that was not one of his stronger persona. Mindless or Savage Hulk would have little to no problem holding it in place. And you avoided the fact that he has held tectonic plates in place and I promise you they are A LOT heavier than that mountain. Besides of course he couldn't just throw it of, it would shatter beneath it's own weight, the only option he had was to brace it while the others tunneled out. No one without tactile telekinesis or massive telekinesis could lift that mountain without it crumbling under it's on weight.

BTW, modern Hulk (WWH) is so much stronger than he was back then it's not even funny.

Tell me, when has Hulk not been able to do something strength related? (except trying to lift Thors hammer, which he can't because of the enchantments placed on it not it's weight)

seriously.... Savage Hulks strength is limitless.... And he's done far harder stuff than that, for example holding matter, antimatter apart or crushing a dome built to withstand thousands of megatons!

Whatever, It's late over here and I need my beauty sleep 🙂. I could continue this tomorrow by throwing in some scans ( if my scanner stops being a b**ch). Have to go to work in 6 hours, so goodnight.

i already made this thread

Originally posted by Bol Gath
seriously.... Savage Hulks strength is limitless.... And he's done far harder stuff than that, for example holding matter, antimatter apart or crushing a dome built to withstand thousands of megatons!

Whatever, It's late over here and I need my beauty sleep 🙂. I could continue this tomorrow by throwing in some scans ( if my scanner stops being a b**ch). Have to go to work in 6 hours, so goodnight.

1. Holding antimatter and matter apart makes no sense
Hulk is made of matter

2. Show me the scan of him doing the dome thing

1. It's comics they do not make sense most of the time. But holding them apart is supposedly impossible

2. It should be in the respect thread. My scanner is being a b**ch at the moment.

Face it in brute strength very, very few can hang with the Hulk thou many "weaker" than him would spank him easily. Hulk IMO looses to opponents like superman because of speed and versatility not strength. Ult-Namor beats Ult-Hulk because of other powers than strength.

Hulk has some of the most ridiculous strength feats in comic history!

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f98/t441188.html
Should be in there somewhere. Don't have time to look for it myself, gotta hit the shower and then be on my way.

Originally posted by Gecko4lif
he doesnt even know what he is arguing

You're the one who doesn't seem to know the argument, mate.

Originally posted by Gecko4lif
ult hulk is weaker

fact

Marvel seems to indicates that Ult Hulk is the strongest in that universe. He can even destroy Ult Adamantium.

Originally posted by Gecko4lif
Here is how it works out

Ult Namor>>Hulk(enraged) >> Namor> Hulk>>>>> Ult hulk enraged>>>>>ult hulk

There is 15 > between ult namor and ult hulk

WTF!? Ult Namor over 616 Hulk! Get serious.

I reckon about 6/10 wins for Namor

Gotta agree with pict.

No way is Ultimate Namor over 616 Hulk.

No way in hell.

Originally posted by The Pict
You're the one who doesn't seem to know the argument, mate.

Marvel seems to indicates that Ult Hulk is the strongest in that universe. He can even destroy Ult Adamantium.

WTF!? Ult Namor over 616 Hulk! Get serious.

I reckon about 6/10 wins for Namor

ult namor > 616 hulk so get over it

and tell me this.

How can ult hulk break ult adamantium when 616 hulk cant and 616 hulk is STRONGER

The only answer is ult adamantium =/= 616 adamantium

Originally posted by Gecko4lif
ult namor > 616 hulk so get over it

Get over it? Mate, you have no evidence. You don't even have a valid point.

616 Hulk has jumped from a spaceship (yeah from up in space) to a planet in Planet Hulk. He fell hundreds of miles and survived passing through the atmosphere. He held parts of a continent together (I think during an earthquake again on Planet Hulk) and you think Ult Namor is stronger!? Get to f*ck.

Please, don tell me to "get over it" just because you think I'm wrong. Give me a feat half as impressive as these that Ult Namor has done in his, like what, one appearance?

Originally posted by The Pict
Get over it? Mate, you have no evidence. You don't even have a valid point.

616 Hulk has jumped from a spaceship (yeah from up in space) to a planet in Planet Hulk. He fell hundreds of miles and survived passing through the atmosphere. He held parts of a continent together (I think during an earthquake again on Planet Hulk) and you think Ult Namor is stronger!? Get to f*ck.

Please, don tell me to "get over it" just because you think I'm wrong. Give me a feat half as impressive as these that Ult Namor has done in his, like what, one appearance?

I said Namor is stronger then 616 hulk not WWH

Your entire arguement is voided

Originally posted by Gecko4lif
I said Namor is stronger then 616 hulk not WWH

Your entire arguement is voided

616 Hulk is WWH.

Originally posted by Gecko4lif
I said Namor is stronger then 616 hulk not WWH

Your entire arguement is voided

Sorry what universe is WWH Hulk in? Oh yeah 616. My argument isn't voided just 'cause you say it is.
And even before planet Hulk, the 616 Hulk easily outclasses Ult Namor. Easily.

What are your feats for Ult Namor, again? The ones for basing your Ult Namor>616 Hulk theory on?

Oh yeah, you haven't given any......

Originally posted by The Pict
Sorry what universe is WWH Hulk in? Oh yeah 616. My argument isn't voided just 'cause you say it is.
And even before planet Hulk, the 616 Hulk easily outclasses Ult Namor. Easily.

What are you feats for Namor, again? The ones for basing your Ult Namor>616 Hulk theory on?

Oh yeah, you haven't given any......

No WWh is current 616 hulk

616 hulk is the standard hulk we are all used to seeing

We wouldnt call wwh wwh if we didnt want to mention him specifically

We would call him hulk