Wonder Woman vs Avengers West/East Coast

Started by TricksterPriest5 pages
Originally posted by CaptainStoic
Ok but it still happened right? Was Thor's win over the Infinity Watch also PIS? What about Doomsday beating up the entire JLA, Maxima, and all of those other Heroes that would most likely crush him? No one points out PIS when Superman amped or not stopped Imperiex... why is it when it comes to the Hulks wins that he could have never done so. Yes he sells comics as does Spiderman, but when I read the comic book that showed Spiderman ripping Firelord, it was completely feasible. The story usually shows the whys and the why nots that a certain character would win. No one except someone in Thor's class would dare interrupt or jump into a fight with the Hulk because that within itself would be CIS, as these two guys would be throwing around too much weight for a lesser being to intervene. Dr. Strange himself has had his mystic shields of Cyttorak broken by the Hulks fists... If Strange was so convinced that he could take on the hulk alone why would he have manifested Zom? The answer is that Hulk is a real threat to anyone under the Level considered as Sky Father, and even at that in a slug fest or feat of strength he can tap into an infinite well of power.

It was somewhat PIS when Thor beat the IW. True, he was amped in warrior madness and had the power gem, but they could have beaten him.

Doomsday beating the JLA IS NOT PIS. Since he has shown he actually is that powerful.

Supes had a massive amp courtesy of Kismet and Darkseid.

whatdur You think SMvsFL is feasible? shocklaugh

Breaking the crimson bands is PIS for hulk, considering the bands are supposed to be the force that holds the universe together.

Hulk beating Strange/Zom is enormous PIS and proof that Strange is jobbing.

Originally posted by CaptainStoic
Was Thor's win over the Infinity Watch also PIS?

Pretty sure he had the power gem

Originally posted by CaptainStoic
What about Doomsday beating up the entire JLA,

Bullshit line-up

Originally posted by CaptainStoic
Maxima, and all of those other Heroes that would most likely crush him?

Who Doomsday ? Nah, t'was a Superman event . Kent has to seal the deal

Originally posted by CaptainStoic
No one points out PIS when Superman amped or not stopped Imperiex...

We dont need to , it was obvious

Originally posted by CaptainStoic
why is it when it comes to the Hulks wins that he could have never done so.

Because Hulk tends to win against people whom technically have the skills, powersets and smarts to kick his ass

Originally posted by CaptainStoic
Yes he sells comics as does Spiderman, but when I read the comic book that showed Spiderman ripping Firelord, it was completely feasible.

No it wasn't. Only Firelord giving some BS about 'being honourable' attempted to explain. Otherwise he could of turned Spidey into a godamned flap-jack !

Originally posted by CaptainStoic
If Strange was so convinced that he could take on the hulk alone why would he have manifested Zom?

A. Plot device to get Strange into a slug-fest somehow .

B. Strange was under CIS, he could of easily teleported Hulk into the Sun, but no, lets do it the fanboys way.

so if Wonder Woman knocks out the Juggernaut (fully powered) could that too be considered PIS?

Originally posted by CaptainStoic
so if Wonder Woman knocks out the Juggernaut (fully powered) could that too be considered PIS?

On KMC or in a comic ?

Don't act like this is exclusive to Hulk. People call PIS/CIS on whatever stupid shit happens in a comic.

Originally posted by CaptainStoic
so if Wonder Woman knocks out the Juggernaut (fully powered) could that too be considered PIS?

Of course. She might be able to stop him with her lasso, but she couldn't KO him if he was at full power.

Originally posted by grey fox
On KMC or in a comic ?

Either. I don't think that she hits as hard as Mjolnir does in Thor's hands and with all of his might he could not even faze him (Cain). Wonder Woman IMO is slightly under guys like the Hulk and Juggernaut. Just remember that when the Hulk gets a full head of steam very few terrestrial Heroes can stand up to him. I'm sure Black Bolts scream would KO Diana for instance.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Of course. She might be able to stop him with her lasso, but she couldn't KO him if he was at full power.

he is unstoppable, her lasso may not even be able to touch his skin, because of the mystical nature of his powers. he may be able to cancel the lasso's effects.

Originally posted by CaptainStoic
Either. I don't think that she hits as hard as Mjolnir does in Thor's hands and with all of his might he could not even faze him (Cain). Wonder Woman IMO is slightly under guys like the Hulk and Juggernaut. Just remember that when the Hulk gets a full head of steam very few terrestrial Heroes can stand up to him. I'm sure Black Bolts scream would KO Diana for instance.

Black Bolt's scream should have KO'd the Hulk also.

Ah but it did, once upon a time, but that was then, and this is now!

Originally posted by CaptainStoic
Ah but it did, once upon a time, but that was then, and this is now!

So now Hulk is mad. Big deal. It's still the same old Hulk. He didn't get any artifact or Power Cosmic upgrade. It's just a little more mad. Not impressive.

Wolverine stated that Banner's hide has become tougher to cut. Therefore he is tougher. If I recall correctly, just before he was launched into space over a year ago, he suffered another Gamma Bomb explosion... I guess that this is where he got this new upgrade.

Can Wonder Woman beat them all yes or no?

Originally posted by CaptainStoic
Can Wonder Woman beat them all yes or no?

Written correctly, no, but neither can Hulk.

Originally posted by CaptainStoic
Wolverine stated that Banner's hide has become tougher to cut. Therefore he is tougher. If I recall correctly, just before he was launched into space over a year ago, he suffered another Gamma Bomb explosion... I guess that this is where he got this new upgrade.

Just because Wolverine said it does'nt make it true.

He did and it was, and he will again... if you smelllllll what... the ... Rock... is.... cooking! 😛

Originally posted by grey fox
Just because Wolverine said it does'nt make it true.

Uh why would Logan lie? 😕

Originally posted by CaptainStoic
He did and it was, and he will again... if you smelllllll what... the ... Rock... is.... cooking! 😛

I see. So that must mean the Hulk is nothing compared to Drax. 😄

Originally posted by CaptainStoic
Uh why would Logan lie? 😕

It's not that he's lying , it's just he could be inaccurate. I mean Spidey once claimed (honestly) that he could take down the Hulk.

It's called Hyperbole, get used to it Stoic , cause it's gonna be around for a loooooooooooooong time.

Re: Wonder Woman vs Avengers West/East Coast

Originally posted by CaptainStoic
This may seem like spite to many, but I assure you that it is not. I just want to guage how strong people here on KMC believe that Wonder Woman is.

According to many here on KMC she could defeat the Hulk easily, even though he has been stated as having more raw power than he has ever had in comic book history.

In this thread, I want everyone to take into consideration that the Hulk had to be banished in order to be stopped. I will include all of the heroes that fought against him in that particular story arc to show that his recent wins in what has been called "World War Hulk" were not, and can not truly be considered PIS or CIS.

How many here believe that Wonder Woman could beat, two teams Avengers (West Coast, and East Coast) using the same amount of effort to take the Hulk in or kill him that the Hulk did?

To move things along these are the Heroes involved:

Thor, She Hulk, Ironman, Vision, Scalet Witch, Captain America, Hercules (Immortal), Wasp, Wonder Man, Namor, Black Knight, Dr. Strange, Doc. Samson, Captain Marvel (Jessica Rambeau), Eros, Powerman, Iron Fist, Hawk Eye, Mocking Bird. Here are some scans of the Heroes...
Hulk vs. Human Torch, Heroes For Hire, Avengers, and finally, Thor. IH #300
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http://img44.echo.cx/img44/762/ih300h4h17uj.jpg
http://img44.echo.cx/img44/6943/ih300h4h28ez.jpg
http://img44.echo.cx/img44/8748/avengersih300a8sa.jpg
http://img44.echo.cx/img44/5048/avengersih300b5wl.jpg
http://img44.echo.cx/img44/2603/avengersih300c4wv.jpg
http://img44.echo.cx/img44/6705/avengersih300d2ze.jpg
http://img44.echo.cx/img44/7979/avengersih300e3su.jpg
http://img44.echo.cx/img44/8761/avengersih300f8ui.jpg
http://img44.echo.cx/img44/9619/avengersih300g8ef.jpg
http://img44.echo.cx/img44/9328/avengersih300h2kk.jpg

Does anyone believe that Wonder Woman would win against all of these Heroes?
http://img115.echo.cx/img115/1337/avengersih322b9ce.jpg
http://img115.echo.cx/img115/7095/avengersih322c0am.jpg
http://img115.echo.cx/img115/8563/avengersih322d5oz.jpg
http://img136.exs.cx/img136/1342/avengersih322e2vk.jpg
http://img136.exs.cx/img136/3383/avengersih322f7yf.jpg
http://img115.echo.cx/img115/7069/avengersih322j4xw.jpg
http://img115.echo.cx/img115/5613/avengersih322m9na.jpg
http://img115.echo.cx/img115/3958/avengersih322n4cq.jpg

Once again this is not spite, I just do not believe that Wonder Woman could defeat these guys who have trained together for years.

Obviously you dont' own Wonder woman annual where she is taking on about 40 villians all amped by circe.