Best Hip Hop Producer

Ok, so anyone who's into REAL hip hop knows that mainstream hip hop, if you can call it that, is gettin whack as shit, and the producers aren't any better. So most have to go to the underground to find real shit.

So who is the best producer out there? I hate kanye, but i can admit that he makes some dope beats every now and then. Eminem used to make pretty tight beats, but he's going more commercial again.

Dre...he's iconic, but he just don't have that "thing" anymore, in my opinion.

Of all, I'd have to say that my fav producer right now is 9th Wonder. Dude is ill. He makes some of the dopest beats ever and puts emotion in his work. Shit he's done with like Median and the rest of Justus League is superb.

So whats everyone else's opinion? Make a list if you want or just name your fav.

9th Wonder here for me!!

my favorite has to be Kno from CunninLynguists. He has been consistent since 'Will Rap for Food'. Kno gets my vote for sure.

Kno gets my vote as well, ever since hearing 616 Rewind at a party ages ago, I've been a massive CunninLynguists fan.

As long as DJ Premier, Pete Rock and the Rza are alive it isn't even debatable.

As for underground producers who haven't been mentioned:

Madlib, Doom, mcenroe, Prince Paul, Automator, El-P, ect ect

and RIP Dilla.

Can't forget the gawd Large Pro.

Yea Primo is one of the best, as is Pete Rock...Rza, to me, has gone way down hill. He has the ear, but it seems like lately he's been trying too hard to make "that sound" ya know?

if you get a chance though, def check out some 0f 9th Wonder's shit. If i knew how to post sound clips on here, i would, cause i'm tellin you dude is sick. Check out two of his beats, "No Comparison" (with Buckshot - but better as instrumental only) and "The Rain" (also better as instrumental only). Also, the Median track i was talkin about is "How big is your World." Thats an all around dope track.

Yea and Dilla no doubt, RIP. Madlib's alright, not my fav but still good. Same with El-p.

I'm very aware of 9th, and his work. That fruity Loops usin' bastard.

Oh, and Rza is still one of the best regardless of his recent output. He's a legend and legends never die. Also, Premier is the best producer alive. I don't even think it's a question.

Do you know who Large Professor is? Diamond D?

RZA, Madlib and El-P are my personal favorites, and I think Pharrell deserves a mention in this thread as well.

Originally posted by Darth Subjekt
So who is the best producer out there? I hate kanye, but i can admit that he makes some dope beats every now and then. Eminem used to make pretty tight beats, but he's going more commercial again.

Dre...he's iconic, but he just don't have that "thing" anymore, in my opinion.

So whats everyone else's opinion? Make a list if you want or just name your fav.

To me, as of yet, no producer has topped Dr. Dre and the Rza, imo.

Originally posted by D00m
Oh, and Rza is still one of the best regardless of his recent output. He's a legend and legends never die. Also, Premier is the best producer alive. I don't even think it's a question.

Do you know who Large Professor is? Diamond D?

Rza is a legend, yes, and I;m not gonna take that away from him. He could make the simplest beat sound SOO dope, but consistency wise, i dunno.

So you don't dig 9th huh? Well not everyone will I guess. I just think he's a breath of fresh air from what you hear these days. And yea Primo is the king, and the fact that Common compared Kanye to him pisses me off, but yea Primo's def the man, no question.

Dre - i dug his shit in the early 90's when i was into to west coast shit more, when i was like 12 and 13. But his beats, to me, are too predictable and...cyclical. They all sound similar to each other more so than they prolly should. Not that I can do better, but ya know.

And to me, Pharrell is down there with like Timberland and JD. No offense, just not my shit.

El-P or Stoupe for me.

-AC

Just to throw their names out there.
Fat Jon & Nujabes,excellent producers.

hi tech makes, well made, some alright shit when Blackstar was coming out.

Kayne West

just kidding.

Seriously, it's Dr. Dre and Timbaland

1. RZA
2. Dre

Originally posted by Blue_Hefner
Kayne West

just kidding.

Seriously, it's Dr. Dre and Timbaland

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Lazy,just like Kanye.

Originally posted by Darth Subjekt
So you don't dig 9th huh? Well not everyone will I guess. I just think he's a breath of fresh air from what you hear these days

Nah, I like 9th. Just not one of my favorite's.

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
To me, as of yet, no producer has topped Dr. Dre and the Rza, imo.

Uh, Primo?