Gambit vs DareDevil

Started by Phantom Zone17 pages
Originally posted by Mindset
Seems you didn't understand what I was saying, the comic universe has there own set of rules.

Here we go again. I understand what you are saying I dont think its that simple. Its just that rules in comics seem to be broken all the time and they can be inconsistent.

Originally posted by Mindset

Him throwing harmless objects hard enough to kill someone is more like the writers ignoring a real world law, him making charged cards not explode is ignoring his own powerset and giving him powers he doesn't have.

Yes that maybe true but it seems you dont understand the point im making either.

Gambits powers are kinetic. Bullseyes skills involve the use of kinetic energy it can be argued hes so skillful he could handle them without them blowing up, especillay since hes so skillful that his skill is like a power.

Originally posted by Mindset

Yea, about 3 hit Gambit, as you can see more than those cards were thrown....

That could possibly be that Gambits bodies neutralises his power. Sometimes mutants neutralise their own powers for example Cyclops cant get hurt by his optic blast etc.

I dont think my point is conclusive but I dont think it being PIS is cut and dry either.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Here we go again. I understand what you are saying I dont think its that simple. Its just that rules in comics seem to be broken all the time and they can be inconsistent.

Yes that maybe true but it seems you dont understand the point im making either.

Gambits powers are kinetic. Bullseyes skills involve the use of kinetic energy it can be argued hes so skillful he could handle them without them blowing up, especillay since hes so skillful that his skill is like a power.

That could possibly be that Gambits bodies neutralises his power. Sometimes mutants neutralise their own powers for example Cyclops cant get hurt by his optic blast etc.

I dont think my point is conclusive but I dont think it being PIS is cut and dry either.

I got what you're saying, but what you're saying doesn't make since. Bullseye has never shown the ability you are now trying to give him. A boxer's skills involve the use of kinetic energy, doesn't mean anyone who is skilled at throwing punches in Marvel can handle Gambit's cards.

Yea, Gambit can neutralize the explosions, but the cards that passed him were still charged, yet they never exploded.

Originally posted by Mindset
I got what you're saying, but what you're saying doesn't make since. Bullseye has never shown the ability you are now trying to give him. A boxer's skills involve the use of kinetic energy, doesn't mean anyone who is skilled at throwing punches in Marvel can handle Gambit's cards.

The example of the boxer doesnt match my example because what Bullseye does is akin to a superpower its far more compliacted than just throwing a punch. What Bullseye does is superhuman, throwing a punch is not.

I mean Bullseye can phsyically handle cards and do crazy shit with it, so why cant he handle charged cards in a way so that they dont explode? The cards are supposed to explode because they come into physical contact with things, Bullseyes touch could be so subtle that it does not register

Originally posted by Mindset

Yea, Gambit can neutralize the explosions, but the cards that passed him were still charged, yet they never exploded.

Yea so, they were still charged but gambits body stopped them from exploding, or even Gambit willed it to stop exploding.

Originally posted by Mindset
I got what you're saying, but what you're saying doesn't make since. Bullseye has never shown the ability you are now trying to give him. A boxer's skills involve the use of kinetic energy, doesn't mean anyone who is skilled at throwing punches in Marvel can handle Gambit's cards.

Yea, Gambit can neutralize the explosions, but the cards that passed him were still charged, yet they never exploded.

Maybe they exploded off-panel?

And some of the cards just ricocheted against the wall, strange, maybe he was afraid of charging them to full power? I mean, the bricks falling on your head are quite dangerous.

This is kinda odd Bullseye was able to catch those cards.

DD in hand to hand he'd win. And his senses he controls enough to avoid anything thrown at him explosions or no. He'd get in close for a knockout blow.

Originally posted by Richv1
DD in hand to hand he'd win. And his senses he controls enough to avoid anything thrown at him explosions or no. He'd get in close for a knockout blow.
I agree h2h2 DD wins. But Gambit has his staff and a full deck of cards.

Thing is, DD doesn't even need to get close - billy club throw KO'd better.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Thing is, DD doesn't even need to get close - billy club throw KO'd better.
You don't think someone who dodges and deflects machine gun fire can dodge DD's billyclub, at least long enough to hurt DD with an explosion?

Gambit's powers were acting up during the Bullseye fight, that is why the cards didn't explode.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
The example of the boxer doesnt match my example because what Bullseye does is akin to a superpower its far more compliacted than just throwing a punch. What Bullseye does is superhuman, throwing a punch is not.

I mean Bullseye can phsyically handle cards and do crazy shit with it, so why cant he handle charged cards in a way so that they dont explode? The cards are supposed to explode because they come into physical contact with things, Bullseyes touch could be so subtle that it does not register

Yea so, they were still charged but gambits body stopped them from exploding, or even Gambit willed it to stop exploding.

Throwing a superhuman punch is superhuman...

Gambit can have the cards explode whenever he wants, they don't have to touch anything. What are you talking about?

Originally posted by Silent Master
Gambit's powers were acting up during the Bullseye fight, that is why the cards didn't explode.
Thank you, finally an explanation.

Lol at Bullseye having kinetic control over Gambit's cards.

Originally posted by Mindset
You don't think someone who dodges and deflects machine gun fire can dodge DD's billyclub, at least long enough to hurt DD with an explosion?

Billy club ricochets... and he can always immobilize Gambit with it.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Billy club ricochets... and he can always immobilize Gambit with it.
I know it ricochets, how does that change what I said?

It's harder to dodge a ricocheting projectile than a regular one. It would take Gambit by surprise, if he were busy throwing cards at DD...

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
It's harder to dodge a ricocheting projectile than a regular one. It would take Gambit by surprise, if he were busy throwing cards at DD...
Again, how does that change what I said?

So you believe Gambit will have a harder time dodging his billy cub, than DD will have dodging exploding cards?

I believe Gambit wouldn't pay enough attention to it.

They are fighting in an alley...AN ALLEY.

Gambit will have much more then his cards to charge up and use against Matt.

DD knows HK's alleys better than probably anyone.

What prevents him from disappearing and attempting a sneak attack?

Gambit dodges bullets like....easily.

Cry all you want, but he can avoid gunfire with little trouble.