Son Goku vs Dark Schneider (Bastard)!!

He goes from peak human running to FTL in 3 years? And not really. All he'd have to do is grab the specs before Tien noticed him while he was flashing it up.

Roshi's bullet timing makes him 1/1000th SoL? 😕 Machine gun bullets are what, Mach 2? Compare that to the Mach 880+ you think he is.

Lets look at the famous Snake Way thats said to be 1,000,000km long. On the first try Goku took 172 days to cover it, if we ignore the cutting corners with jumps and flight thats 67m/s, 'cause he was resting at times its probably much more than this. More importantly is that on the way back it took 2 days of cutting corners and no rest. For now ignoring how that would dramatically reduce the distance covered it would be Mach 17 max by the Saiyan saga.

Note, if Goku could move at the SoL it would only take him 3 seconds to run the whole distance without even cutting any corners. 😐

carver9 are you with goku?

somewaht above planetary???XDXD he is stronger than character who can destroy the universe but he is just planetary???great logic!!kid buu = universe buster as elder kai himself stated !!
buu gohan abrobed=universe buster as dende vegito and supreme kai stated.(he can destroy the universe by crushing with alternate dimmensions) that was what vegito said.and dende said that he will make the walls betwwen dimensions break down and other dimension will rush trough.if you have read this you know that i am wright.

Gah, stop double posting.... and use spaces. >__>

1. As GT is non-canon Goku is not stronger then Buu. At best equal in combat but not in destructive capabilities.

2. Kai said that Buu would destroy the universe yes. But in a chain-reaction. That means a planet at a time as he was shown doing. If you disagree prove what you think is right.

3. Goku doesn't have the same kind of attack that Buu has to be universal. The only attack is the chain-reaction Dimension Scream, no other attack from Buu or Goku come close to this. Especially not in one strike.

4. AFAIK Buu himself stated his full powered dimension scream as Buuhan could wreck the universe. That leads to a possible hyperbole. Plus it takes ages to work. =| DS would wreck him before he does it.
But sadly the Dimension Scream he did as Buuhan is non-canon, it never happened in the manga. The best scream he did was the small one to get out of the Hyperbolic Timechamber, meaning Buu doesn't canonly have a universe destroying move.

To sum up; Goku doesn't have a Dimension Scream so cannot do anything close to universe busting. His strength, speed and destructive capabilities are <<<<< DS's.

you dont know what you are talking about.ds will never beat goku or majin buu.majin buu can absorb ds and the battle is over.goku can use the universal spirit bomb to ds.ds has no chance so shut up

DS powers have be proven to trump Goku's! Sorry man 🙁

If Goku has something above high quality planet busting that Mr. Toriyama has providied in canon, now's the time to remind us fans or show scans to boot.

wgat are you talking about??even vegeta scouter destroyed planet arlia really easily and his power leven was 16,000.its isnt hard to think that goku ssj4 is able to destroy multiple galaxies 4 fun

How is that any different from Frieza's base form destroying planet Vegeta?: his power level was 500,000 BTW

Why do you insist on using GT when its been stated multiple times its non-canon.

I also found that you convinietly ignored my requests for showing or facts from Akira Toriyama's works 😛

Originally posted by Karagiannis
goku can use the universal spirit bomb to ds.ds has no chance so shut up

Dragon Ball GT is non-canon. 😐 Have you even read the manga?

And lol at the powerscaling. Do you realise the size difference between the earth and our galaxy?

what facts do you want?SHUT UP!!kid buu can destroy the universe got it???elder kai said that and piccolo.and why he cant do it all an once like buuhan who can collapse the universe by making dimmension collapse to each other.GT is a real anime and not fanmade i can use it all i want.

Bolded for your simplicity:

"2. Kai said that Buu would destroy the universe yes. But in a chain-reaction. That means a planet at a time as he was shown doing. If you disagree prove what you think is right."

"4. The Dimension Scream he did as Buuhan is non-canon, it never happened in the manga."

"1. As GT is non-canon..."

Unless the thread maker says we're using non-canon material like GT then we cant use it. Its not up to you.

Originally posted by Karagiannis
what facts do you want?SHUT UP!!kid buu can destroy the universe got it???elder kai said that and piccolo.and why he cant do it all an once like buuhan who can collapse the universe by making dimmension collapse to each other.GT is a real anime and not fanmade i can use it all i want.

mmm

Shouldn't you be playing Halo 3 or mowing lawns or whatever it is you 13 year olds do?

Instead of infecting the internet with your AIDS mhmm

Originally posted by BloodRain
He goes from peak human running to FTL in 3 years? And not really. All he'd have to do is grab the specs before Tien noticed him while he was flashing it up.

Roshi's bullet timing makes him 1/1000th SoL? 😕 Machine gun bullets are what, Mach 2? Compare that to the Mach 880+ you think he is.

Lets look at the famous Snake Way thats said to be 1,000,000km long. On the first try Goku took 172 days to cover it, if we ignore the cutting corners with jumps and flight thats 67m/s, 'cause he was resting at times its probably much more than this. More importantly is that on the way back it took 2 days of cutting corners and no rest. For now ignoring how that would dramatically reduce the distance covered it would be Mach 17 max by the Saiyan saga.

Note, if Goku could move at the SoL it would only take him [b]3 seconds to run the whole distance without even cutting any corners. 😐 [/B]

Do you know the difference between running/combating at light speed? Do you also know that Goku outpaced the solar flare which is solar energy capable of going much faster than light? Kid Goku outpaced this.

Forget all of your caculations. Then this happened during the time popo was teaching Goku to be as fast as lightning.

Its a light speed feat... deal with it.

Originally posted by Karagiannis
wgat are you talking about??even vegeta scouter destroyed planet arlia really easily and his power leven was 16,000.its isnt hard to think that goku ssj4 is able to destroy multiple galaxies 4 fun

He can but would he... no.

Hell, I would go as far as to say that Frieza output of power was Solar system destroying level... King Ki did reference him twice as a Universal level threat and Goku said the same things.

Its not hard to believe this when you have a guy with a power level of 100 ripping through a moon and then you have Piccolo with a casual blast taking out the moon.

instead of insulting me what else can you do??i am 14 and kid buu wont destroy the universe planet by planet he can do it all at once if it was just planet by planet and in years why elder kai was so afraid??if it was like you said goku would just train for some months and then battle with buu cuz buu would had destroy around 10 galaxies.but they wanted to end thing with buu in one day because the knew that he could destroy the universe at once

stop saying bullshits GT is a real anime everyone can use it!!!and when vegeta destroyed planet arlia also counts cuz it happed in a real anime and no in a fanmade series.just because bastard!!!is the worse series ever and has no anime series except 6 OVAS prequel to the series i can use dragonball's anime and just the manga???you are an *******!

also gokus ssj full power kamehameha is MUCH faster than light.cuz in the movie coolers revenge he sent cooler to the sun with his kamehameha in around 1 minute while its should have taken 8 minutes at speed of light.you see??i have profs i dont just say goku stronger like you guys

Originally posted by Karagiannis
i have profs i dont just say goku stronger like you guys

Funny, considering you've shown nothing haermm

Originally posted by carver9
Do you know the difference between running/combating at light speed? Do you also know that Goku outpaced the solar flare which is solar energy capable of going much faster than light? Kid Goku outpaced this.

Forget all of your caculations. Then this happened during the time popo was teaching Goku to be as fast as lightning.

Its a light speed feat... deal with it.

Also post the scan of the lightning speed feat plox.
''That is if you believe that Mr. Popo was speaking literally, and not figuratively (unlikely considering he was saying that with tons of other metaphors and poetic language in the same speech), and that you assume that they mean lightning in vaccuum as opposed to lightning in atmosphere (which is much slower).

He talks about 'emptying your soul' and being 'as calm as the sky'. Clearly metaphorical. Saying something is 'lightning speed' or 'faster than lightning' is hardly an uncommon metaphor either. Using that as conclusive evidence is just stupid.'' ~Endless Mike

Dude youre confusing universal threat with universe buster. Hitler was a worldwide threat ya'know. It means what it means, that Freezer is a threat to the universe.

You say a powerlevel of 100-100,000 is planetary so you think EoS powerlevels would be at galaxy busting? Again, do you people not realise how much larger a galaxy is compared to the Earth? The Sun alone is 1.3million times the Earths size.. 😬

Originally posted by Karagiannis
stop saying bullshits GT is a real anime everyone can use it!!!and when vegeta destroyed planet arlia also counts cuz it happed in a real anime and no in a fanmade series.just because bastard!!!is the worse series ever and has no anime series except 6 OVAS prequel to the series i can use dragonball's anime and just the manga???you are an *******!

Stop letting your fan-appeal to DBZ blind you. Yes Bastard!! sucks as so does Dark Schneider, and DBZ being the greatest anime of my childhood with Goku still being one of the greatest heroes in anime. And if there was a way to prove that they're FTL universe busters I'd be all over it..... but there isnt. Be rational about this.

just because gt has not a manga doesnt count :??? like i said do you remember when goku send cooler to the sun with a kamehameha in about one minute while in lightspeed it should take 8 minutes?!?!?!?!?!? instant transmission allows goku to moves at the exact speed of light.master roshi is a confirmed mini planet buster accept it cell is a confirmed solar system buster broly is a confirmed galaxy buster majin buu is a confirmed universe buster goku is at least 20 times stronger than kid buu who is at least 50 times stronger that the other character i mention (dont count master roshi).does the attacks of d.s. includes ki??cuz if they do super 17 can absorb them.there are many characters in dragonball stronger that d.s.