King Piccolo vs. Sephiroth

Started by Dark-Jaxx5 pages

Originally posted by GGS
Feats and Powers

Sephiroth's Supernova attack destroying planets
Makes nearly invincible shields that can stop almost anything but strong blasts
Telekenisis
Changing weather
Teleportation
Can Fly
Cut up buildings
Summon Meteors
Has the same Omnislash attack as Cloud
Fights multiple opponets at once
Killed the midgar zolom singlehanded
Taking energy attacks with no problem and not even defending them
Rengeration from half his body in FF7

There insults aside there's the feats and powers i remember from FF7 off the top of my head.

Now for the sake of the debate let's see some action and less talk from the King Piccolo court where the ball is now in.

1. No it doesn't, it is a gameplay attack that is not to be taken seriously, notice how the same planets are destroyed each time he uses it. And the fact that Cloud and friends can't survive such an attack if used. If he was capable of using that under his own power, why need MEteor?

2. Never been used in battle, was only used in a much larger form, we can't assume he can do a much smaller version of said shield. Not to mention Piccolo by feats can blast right through it.

3. PRetty weak TK that won't hold Piccolo. And Piccolo has TK as well.

4. ZOMG!!! HE WILL CHANGE T3H WEATHER ON PICCOLO!!?? And that isn't changing the weather that he did, it was the NEgative Lifestream.

5. So can Piccolo, only Piccolo has shown far greater flight ability. And as for teleportation, lol, show me a time Sephiroth has teleported in canon. The only time he may of was Crisis Core, but I still say that was just "Faster than the eye can see" anime movement.

6. Buildings<<<Piccolo.

7. Never summoned any Meteor as a form of attack, only could do it with Black MAteria.

8. Which is just a bunch of slashes.

9. ...Yeah, weaker opponents than Piccolo.

10. Which was just a giant snake, compared to Dragonball which is a world with giant dinosaurs, dragons, and monsters. Said creatures are fodder to Goku or Piccolo.

11. Taking energy attacks with no problem? Yeah those little fireballs from Genesis, I hope you don't think Genesis is an equal to Piccolo...

12. Regeneration? Can you remind ne specifically when he did that?

Originally posted by GGS
How am i debating on illogical fallacies genius when there using other characters feat's which HAVE NO RELEVANCE to this fight.

No really, you distorted Jaxx's actual position--Kamesennin incinerating the moon--with "Nappa only blew up a city." That's a perfect example of a straw man.

Originally posted by GGS
Stop talking shit Astner when you have no authority or you'll be reported.

I should report you for denying my right to enter this argument.

Originally posted by GGS
Who's the crazed sephiroth fan when i've openly stated on the KMC forums my dislike for Sephiroth fan bois. I've even said this fight would be different using DBZ characters.

Another illogical fallcy.

Originally posted by GGS
The only reason i'm even in this thread is to stop the pure one sided ignorant BS going on with logical reason after knowing the in's and out's of both characters and having no bias in the first place.

Poisoning the well, the second illogical fallacy in this post. I pity your inability to hold an argument.

Originally posted by GGS
I'm the least biased person in this room against two raving fanbois that can't come up with the goods.

Ad hominem.

Originally posted by GGS
Basing your whole arguments on the FF AC movie when that's not the only source of his feaths and not even his original format = fail.

No one has denied the feats from the games.

Originally posted by GGS
Again King piccolo is a DB character he fails to exist after DB take frat boy Astners advice well and stop arguing illogical fallacies noobs.

The irony here is, by proclaiming an illogical fallacy he committed the actual fallacy.

Originally posted by GGS
It's rich anyone criticsing me with the with a picture of Majin Buu trying to claim i'm baised. Also contributing nothing to the thread expect 'yayyy you tell him' praising people doing the dirty work for him.

Again, ad hominem. You accuse a member of being biased in order to ignore his position. Make an actual argument for why you're right.

Originally posted by GGS
LOL STFU Dark jaxx you noob the evidence is on the thread when your using Master Roshi in arguments on people before i even typed my first post lmao idiot.

So, he's a "noob" for basing his view on evidence?

Originally posted by GGS
Again Fanbois cut the BS and come up with the list of feats and we'll stack it up.

Personally I'll place this individual on my ignore list as he has no knowledge on how to hold a debate, and committing illogical fallacies and flame other members is his way of defending his position. I will not waste my time on one that overlooks every single argument. I suggest you do the same.

Nah, he's actually kind of amusing.

The only attack I can see that's in Serphiroth's favor is Supernova, which he sadly has to be in "Safer" mode to preform--not only that--there's a diminutive chance that he will preform it at all. But the moon-busting attack should be enough to demolish Serphiroth, he hasn't shown the durability required in order to take a blast like that and survive.

Serphiroth is what you call a glass-canon, one with incredible attack power (in this case Supernova) without the durability to match it. Also speed and agility is in Piccolo's favor.

Piccolo stomps him !!!

Lets see sephiroth actually fight without a sword 😛
In his weakest form kick someone a mile into the air, take a kahemahemeha without flintching !!!

King Piccolo is kamis evil half, Kami is a god !!

Originally posted by Astner
The only attack I can see that's in Serphiroth's favor is Supernova, which he sadly has to be in "Safer" mode to preform--not only that--there's a diminutive chance that he will preform it at all. But the moon-busting attack should be enough to demolish Serphiroth, he hasn't shown the durability required in order to take a blast like that and survive.

Serphiroth is what you call a glass-canon, one with incredible attack power (in this case Supernova) without the durability to match it. Also speed and agility is in Piccolo's favor.

What, you actually take Supernova seriously?

Lemme put it to you this way, Advent Children Seph is Seph's strongest incarnation, and could only destroy a planet at best, and that's just killing all life, the planet would still be there and it wouldn't even be instant.

But a weaker form of Seph can destroy a Solar System and cause a Supernova?

Lol.

lol thats ****e dup, Destroying all life on a planet is impressive btu it doent mean anything when its piccolo hes against !!!

for gods sake, even piccolos minions where bulet proof !!

Are peeps serious about Seph beatin Piccolo?!

Guys like Jackie Chun blew up the moon and Piccolo dwarfs him in power...completely, that Terry dude must have posted her to make this thread this long. 😂

'even piccolos minions where bulet proof'

My god are you retarded or what MINIONS don't mean the actual guy was.

LOGICAL FALLACY AND AD HOMEIN ALERTTTTTTTTT in your corner fanbois.

Let's list the ones used so far by the homeboys;

Misleading Vividness - Check
Ignoring A Common Cause - Check
Relativist Fallacy - Check
Slippery Slope -Check
False Dilemma- Check
Burden of Proof - Check
Appeal to Authority - Check
Confusing Cause and Effect -Check

SHOW US KING PICCOLO DOING ACTUAL THINGS. Did King Piccolo blow up the moon?

No

So stfu up noobs.

So for King Piccolo's feats we've got

Killed the dragon
Beat up Tien
scorched kid Goku's leg
Beat up Kid Goku
Made a few sons who where destroyed pretty easily
Dethroned the King of the world and took over

Beat kid Goku up
killed chiotzu
got killed by a propelled punch

Look how it takes the supposed Sephiroth fan boi to list King Piccolo's feats it's makes me laugh at how your hypocritical shit don't wash when your setting out rules for others that you don't abide by. Stop showing yourselve's up for fool's.

Dark Jaxx can only try and desconstruct evidence in order to build his case = fail.

Sephiroth teleports alot of times throughout FF7 onscreen and has done it in other games like Kingdom Hearts.

Sephiroth's telekinses is weaker than King Piccolos??? Yet when has King Piccolo moved buildings with his mind.

The whole time he's in the North Crater he's regenerating it's shown on the cutscene him floating there with half a body that's when you realise you haven't even encoutered the real Sephiroth during most of the game. Just constructs of his mind and clones.

Yeah Astner you run along now when your being giving a dose of your own medicine son.

I'll provide picture and video evidence to back up my claims cause it's all there...shame the favour probably won't be returned with the claims on King Piccolos behalf as most presented throughout this thread have been nothing but pure speculation and fallacies.

This thread is hilarious

Originally posted by GGS
'even piccolos minions where bulet proof'

My god are you retarded or what MINIONS don't mean the actual guy was

OMG your a fuking idiot !!

If Tamborine, Drum and Piccolos demosn he hadd 300 Yaers pre Dragonball where bullet proof, and Piccolo is 10X stronger than all of them OF COURSE HE IS BULLET PROOF !!!!!
Goku deafeted the entire red ribbon army by himself !! Piccolo had Goku on his knees, and that was before he regained his youth !!!

Another example, Piccolo as iv stressed is the evil half of Kami, KAMI IS GOD !! ( Earths god) He recreated the Moon out of nothing, knocked Goku back with a flick of his finger !! Plus killiing shenron is a bigger feat than Seph will ever have !!! His monion Drum who had a fraction of Daimos power Beat the shit out of Tien, and nearly ripped out his heart !! You think seph can contend with the pwoer of a God !!??

Cause i sure dont

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
1. OMG!!!! Seph can dodge and block t3h bullets!!!! Master Roshi was shot at by machine guns with his back turned and caught all the bullets.

He said that Piccolo could dodge bullets. I just pointed out that Sephiroth can do the same, and in his weakest form.

2. That's a load of bullshit. Kadaj drank the cells in the box and transformed into Sephiroth, he can't regenerate from shit. He hasn't healed in any battle he has been in.

It's clear you don't know what you are talking about here. Why do you think the SHM were after the J-cells in that box? Because Sephiroth needed the cells to create a new body for him.
Kadaj wasn't even a living physical being. He was just an extension of Sephiroth, formed by Negative Lifestream and part of Sephiroth's will.
Kadaj didn't transform in Sephiroth... The J-cells did. And by doing that, he created a new body for him.

And yes Sephiroth has regenerated before. He does it everytime when you are fighting Bizarro.

Get your facts straight before spiting your bullshit.

Even if Piccolo is much stronger than him, Seph still can regenerate his entire body in seconds from a few cells. Piccolo cannot kill him.

Originally posted by SHM
He said that Piccolo could dodge bullets. I just pointed out that Sephiroth can do the same, and in his weakest form.

It's clear you don't know what you are talking about here. Why do you think the SHM were after the J-cells in that box? [b]Because Sephiroth needed the cells to create a new body for him.
Kadaj wasn't even a living physical being. He was just an extension of Sephiroth, formed by Negative Lifestream and part of Sephiroth's will.
Kadaj didn't transform in Sephiroth... The J-cells did. And by doing that, he created a new body for him.

And yes Sephiroth has regenerated before. He does it everytime when you are fighting Bizarro.

Get your facts straight before spiting your bullshit.

Even if Piccolo is much stronger than him, Seph still can regenerate his entire body in seconds from a few cells. Piccolo cannot kill him. [/B]

1. A character slower and weaker effortlessly catches machinegun bullets. That feat is far greater than any of Sephiroth's speed feats.

2. The J Cells were needed to resurrect Sephiroth, with Kadaj as the Chrysalis(from the movie). Kadaj's main purpose was to transform into Sephiroth, once again, from the actual movie. Kadaj transformed into Sephiroth on screen, yet you are saying he did not? The J Cells were needed to transform Kadaj, but he didn't regenerate from friggin cells, stop wanking him.

Which was one form. And he never regenerated from cells in that form either.

Stop stroking Sephiroth's Masamune.

Piccolo can totally annihilate Sephiroth, which is pretty much how all the DBZ villains kill people. So no, Sephiroth cannot regenerate from cells, and even if he could he would still lose.

What do we know about Piccolo?

He is durable enough to tank blasts that annihilated the moon.

He is faster than someone who effortlessly catches bullets with his bare hand.

He is more powerful than said moon buster.

He can regrow lost body parts.

He is stronger than Sephiroth physically.

He holds nearly every advantage over Sephiroth.

He wins.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
1. A character slower and weaker effortlessly catches machinegun bullets. That feat is far greater than any of Sephiroth's speed feats.

2. The J Cells were needed to resurrect Sephiroth, with Kadaj as the Chrysalis(from the movie). Kadaj's main purpose was to transform into Sephiroth, once again, from the actual movie. Kadaj transformed into Sephiroth on screen, yet you are saying he did not? The J Cells were needed to transform Kadaj, but he didn't regenerate from friggin cells, stop wanking him.

Which was one form. And he never regenerated from cells in that form either.

Stop stroking Sephiroth's Masamune.

Piccolo can totally annihilate Sephiroth, which is pretty much how all the DBZ villains kill people. So no, Sephiroth cannot regenerate from cells, and even if he could he would still lose.

What do we know about Piccolo?

He is durable enough to tank blasts that annihilated the moon.

He is faster than someone who effortlessly catches bullets with his bare hand.

He is more powerful than said moon buster.

He can regrow lost body parts.

He is stronger than Sephiroth physically.

He holds nearly every advantage over Sephiroth.

He wins.

Kadaj was a chrysalis for Sephiroth's will. When his will made contact with the cells, he used them to form a new body for him. The J-cells are nothing more then physical matter for Sephiroth to manipulate.
Watch AC, read the Reunion Files, and talk to me again.

News flash for you: Bizarro Sephiroth and AC Sephiroth are the same person.

Ah, and you are an hypocrite.
When I said that Sephiroth can do the things Omega Weiss does because S-E said that Seph is the strongest character in FFVII, you disagreed with me. But now, you say that Piccolo can do things he never did, only because weaker characters in DB can do them.

And FYI master Kame needed a lot of concentration and time to shoot the Kamehameha that destroyed the moon. He cannot do it as easy as you say he can.
Piccolo never took a moon-buster Kamehameha, just a normal one.

Again: Get your facts straight.

BTW it's confirmed Picollo Daimao is bulletproof, some guy tried to shoot him when he attacked the king and it didn't do anything

Plus in the anime when he was walkign towards the kings castle, a whole bunch of troops where shootign at him and the bulklet where bouncing straigth off, he even took a rocket laucnher to the chest and didnt flinch, the beta them all with a single swing of his arm, the wind genetated blew them all away !!

sephiroth wins

Originally posted by dvampire
Chaos Vincent will destroy Seph. And he wasn't holding back against Cloud either, he just lost straight up. Piccolo can fly and shoot energy blasts at Seph; Seph won't be able to do a thing about it since he can't fly and doesn't have any long range attacks.

He can fly as well as teleport and long range attacks have u even played ff7 he has materia at the highest levels. Fire 3 and piccolo is gone sorry but its the truth.

Re: sephiroth wins

Originally posted by serrated_flame
He can fly as well as teleport and long range attacks have u even played ff7 he has materia at the highest levels. Fire 3 and piccolo is gone sorry but its the truth.
Humor me.

When has Sephiroth ever displayed efficient flight in combat?

Teleport? Never happened.

Fire 3 is gonna kill Piccolo? Can I hit some of what you smokin?