It was a movie when a Tree was eating the Earth, Goku use the Tree energy to make a genkidama, and desintegrate the the Tree. Same can happen with Pyron.
Also Goku allways absorbe the little posible of Ki energy of the planet he is fighting on.
I don´t know the durability of this Pyron,but if this cosmic being has Godly powers and regenerate Goku will loose.
Originally posted by Haruhi
Bore him to death with his long ass power up sequence? I know Pyron is over 200M years old, but that's still nowhere close to the amount of time it takes Goku to power up .01 percent of his "true" power.
The anime strech 5 to 10 pages in 30 minutes, all DBZ character take no time to power up in the manga. one frame to other.
Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
Vvendetta... the power of the tree is hardly the same thing as a cloud of living cosmic power... the very power thats trying to kill you?No, I don't think so, besides, the Tree of Might is non-canon.
You yourself say that he is cosmic energy, and you can read the scan that Goku can absorve any kind of energy, even rocks and inanimates things, so what is canon is that Goku could do the same here.
But i say it again, if this being has galactus kind of power, like he can do anything he wants, Goku will lose, i don´t know the character, but i am giving goku a posibilty base in canon manga.
I know tree of might is non canon, but Genkidama is.
Originally posted by Vvendeta
You yourself say that he is cosmic energy, and you can read the scan that Goku can absorve any kind of energy, even rocks and inanimates things, so what is canon is that Goku could do the same here.But i say it again, if this being has galactus kind of power, like he can do anything he wants, Goku will lose, i don´t know the character, but i am giving goku a posibilty base in canon manga.
I know tree of might is non canon, but Genkidama is.
It didn't say Any energy anywhere in those scans VVendetta...
The closest thing Goku can draw energy from, is the Sun, and your making a big leap of logic saying that Pyron is like the sun. He is living cosmic energy, not thermonuclear energy like a star is.
And, your forgetting one very basic thing, the Genki Dama/ Spirit Bomb is made of LIFE ENERGY, or spiritual energy if you will.
However, Goku can't draw on unwilling energy, and he certainly can't draw on evil energy... And Pyron controls his energy to the very molecule, because he IS the energy.
Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
It didn't say Any energy anywhere in those scans VVendetta...The closest thing Goku can draw energy from, is the Sun, and your making a big leap of logic saying that Pyron is like the sun. He is living cosmic energy, not thermonuclear energy like a star is.
And, your forgetting one very basic thing, the Genki Dama/ Spirit Bomb is made of LIFE ENERGY, or spiritual energy if you will.
However, Goku can't draw on unwilling energy, and he certainly can't draw on evil energy... And Pyron controls his energy to the very molecule, because he IS the energy.
Inanimates things are not live energy, read the scan again, energy is energy not matter the form, and i said Goku will lose if this being is Godly, but don´t understimated and put down Goku, Goku can absorbe energy, no matter what kind.
Originally posted by Vvendeta
Inanimates things are not live energy, read the scan again, energy is energy not mather the form, and i said Goku will lose if this being is Godly, but don´t understimated and put down Goku, Goku can absorbe energy, no matter what kind.
All things that exist naturally give off living energy... notice how Goku wasn't sucking energy out of cars? Thats right... I didn't think so.
And energy is energy no matter the form is a copout of a very high order. Specific types of energy, each is different. I don't put down anyone, but dude, don't overhype a character either, especially with an unproven and untested ability that you've plucked from a non-canon source.
Goku can absorb life energy, and only if it's willing, he can't pluck Pyron's energy by any stretch, if this is the case, then Goku would have absorbed every shot that Freeza and Buu fired at him when he was charging the bomb.
Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
All things that exist naturally give off living energy... notice how Goku wasn't sucking energy out of cars? Thats right... I didn't think so.And energy is energy no matter the form is a copout of a very high order. Specific types of energy, each is different. I don't put down anyone, but dude, don't overhype a character either, especially with an unproven and untested ability that you've plucked from a non-canon source.
Goku can absorb life energy, and only if it's willing, he can't pluck Pyron's energy by any stretch, if this is the case, then Goku would have absorbed every shot that Freeza and Buu fired at him when he was charging the bomb.
What is the atmosphere to you? a living creature?
In orient cultures believes all matter is ki and all ki is energy, in DB is beyond that.
and i said one and more times Goku will lose against a Godly being so when did i overhype him?
O yeah Goku will ask the plants and animals if they have the will to give him energy?, the Buu case is about absorbe the total energy of the humans when he is in another dimension, the kai planets, is a plot in the history, you are putting down Goku.
Freeza, Buu and Cell are more durable than planets. prove is Freza Survived Namek explosion even if he was cut in half.
Originally posted by Vvendeta
What is the atmosphere to you? a living creature?
In orient cultures believes all matter is ki and all ki is energy, in DB is beyond that.and i said one and more times Goku will lose against a Godly being so when did i overhype him?
O yeah Goku will ask the plants and animals if they have the will to give him energy?, the Buu case is about absorbe the total energy of the humans when he is in another dimension, the kai planets, is a plot in the history, you are putting down Goku.
Freeza, Buu and Cell are more durable than planets. prove is Freza Survived Namek explosion even if he was cut in half.
Again, Pyron's at least bigger than a star. He has more energy than ALL of DBZ put together. In fact, saying he's bigger than a star actually limits his strength, because there are multiple instances where he was bigger than star systems and GALAXIES. One image shows him with them wrapped around his finger as if they were rings.
There is absolutely no way anything Goku throws at him will even catch his attention, letalone hurt him. That's really all there is to it. And the fact that he's a massive energy being makes it even harder for Goku. Poor bastard... never saw it coming. Well, he probably did, seeing as how bigass Pyron really is... but still, can't do a damn thing about it.
And the Genki-dama? You're overlooking the fact that it takes a while to gather energy and charge. You think Pyron, who can move many times the speed of light, will give Goku that luxary? Nope.
Pyron using one of his cells, defeats Goku with contemptuous ease.
Originally posted by Endless Mike
You do know that Goku has to ask people/animals/etc. for their energy to form a Genki Dama? He can't just take it from them, they have to agree. That was the whole point of the plotline in the Kid Buu saga (they wouldn't believe him until Mr. Satan talked to them).
When he was fighting in other dimension (kai planet) he need the humans to raise the hands. but in Earht he don´t need to ask the planet or anybody for it.
In the Vegeta Saga Goku "ask" for a little "help" with energy, but is like when we say: " please God help us", and you know the oceans, air, sun, atmosphere, will not answer him.
I don't think the size issue is being properly addressed.
You can't even see a human sized object on the Earth from outer space.
The sun makes the Earth look like a tiny little dot.
The solar system makes the sun look small
You can't even see our solar system within a galaxy
If pyron can grow large enough to wear galaxies as rings then goku is like a creature small enough to live on an electron compared to pyron.
a "planet destroying attack" would be completwely unnoticed.
Originally posted by Vvendeta
Like a infectious bacteria, it can kill you.No seriously, if that Pyron is that size is ridiculous to make a versus with anybody of a human size agaisnt him and say nobody with the size of humans can beat him is insane, this thread must be close.
Not true. Morrigan can beat Pyron. So can Belial. And Jedah.
