'Official' Battlezone match thread: TricksterPriest vs. King Mungi

Last post.

You talk about your weaponry. What's stopping me from absorbing your weapons?
http://img518.imageshack.us/my.php?image=apocabsorbunlimitedwg5.png

Or TK crushing you in a forcefield? Or just straight TK crushing you under a building?
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y37/Nightmareman95/HAL10WEEN/Apoccreateforcefield.png
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y37/Nightmareman95/palacerise.png

Again, you bring up Apoc's durability.
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y37/Nightmareman95/powers4.png

Despite what some people would say, by looking at BB's expression and the soundwave coming out of his mouth, it's more than a whisper. It's a shout, if not a scream.

I'm brining up the Ikaris fight one more time, but this time I'm going to highlight something that was overlooked.
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y37/Nightmareman95/powers4.png
Notice the hole in his body which he lets the beams pass through effortlessly.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y37/Nightmareman95/apocmorph4.png
In this one, note that he causes damage to Ikaris that takes him awhile to recover from. Ikaris has reformed from atoms before, so in order to hurt him like that, Apocalypse had to damage his atomic structure. Finally, note in the last panel, that he dodges Ikaris's beams at pointblank range.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y37/Nightmareman95/apocmorph5.png
And this is the conclusion of the fight.

So you've the power to beat Apocalypse a few times. But take the the majority from a being who can control his atomic structure and restructure it to his will, and has technology superior to your own? And not only that, but a being who has never been defeated at full power outside of a plot device?

I've made my case. Good fight Mungi, whichever way it goes. 😎

Edit: For the record, I said Weds, several times. and I said west coast time. So enough of the time limit BS.

*sigh*

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
apocalypse would not be affected by the wavelength manipulation.

Kang's ultra diode ray took out the F4 on it's weakest setting.

http://img83.imageshack.us/my.php?image=page321nt2.jpg

but, at full power, it only succeeds in awakening Apocalypse's full powers.

http://img95.imageshack.us/my.php?image=page412wj7.jpg
Now, why am I bringing this up? Simple. It showcases something that most writers forget about Apoc. He can adapt.

and how does that stop him from having his wavelength manipulated? Ie. having his brain shut off. I hope your not implying Apoc wouldn't become stronger with his mind not working are you? Guardian is above Kang, far above and that isn't even Kang in his future armor either.

Sadly for Apoc so can Guardian, he can change his wavelength to whatever the other person has. Has Apoc adapt in a battle? No not at all. Who did Galactus trust to power his tech? Not Quasar, not Sersi, not BOX IV but Guardian. He alone can access the required wavelength so to say Apoc could adapt somehow beyond the E-M spectrum is faulty.

1. http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e54/A_Flight6/AlphaFlight100-31.jpg
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5. http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e54/A_Flight6/AlphaFlight100-36.jpg
6. http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e54/A_Flight6/AlphaFlight100-37.jpg

Originally posted by TricksterPriest

The TO virus from Sinister, adapted to and under his control.
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y37/Nightmareman95/HAL10WEEN/apocadaptmolcularstructure.png

Once again how does that even relate to what's happening here? and he had prep, which he doesn't have year or is someone useless here. So point?

Originally posted by TricksterPriest

A world-killing plague, designed to kill off the entire planet, re-engineered to target Apocalypse alone. It weakened Apocalypse, who was not at full power to begin with, but it couldn't kill him.
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y37/Nightmareman95/HAL10WEEN/apocsurviveworldplague.png

Point again? Guardian doesn't have to kill Apoc to beat him no where was that ever claimed. It's like using the same logic Deadpool can't be knocked out as he is immortal..faulty.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest

The nuclear radiation of Chernobyl, which almost nothing can survive prolonged exposure to. In this scan, two beings have evolved and adapted to survive the toxic conditions. The large earthworms found in the area (true story, there really are worms that have evolved to survive radiation).........and Apocalypse.
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y37/Nightmareman95/HAL10WEEN/apocybernoal.png

*snickers* Point again? honestly, your starting to talk crazy if you think this radiation where humans have survived somehow equals the combined might of the entire electro-magnetic spectrum.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest

Apocalypse can track your movements better than you think.
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y37/Nightmareman95/powe26.png

Point? Guardian isn't going to go invisible so why would he care if he senses him?

Originally posted by TricksterPriest

and you can't hide from him.
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y37/Nightmareman95/powe27.png

Point? Guardian doesn't have to hide or ever once was said he needed to.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest

And btw, you're not the only one with point to point teleportation. That was the HE that Apoc teleported, and here's a teleportation across the world.
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y37/Nightmareman95/apocblowsup.png
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y37/Nightmareman95/powers18.png

And yes, that is Exodus being punked in the 2nd scan.

More fun to come in a bit.

Point? There's a difference between combat teleportation and traveling teleportation. Which Guardian isn't even using here. The "teleportation trick" is Guardian moving so fast it seems like teleportation but really isn't. Regardless, even Guardian can register people teleporting as shown

1. http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e54/A_Flight6/AlphaFlightv191-20.jpg
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Summary
-Once again you havn't countered Guardian's speed
-Once again you havn't counter Guardian's shields
-Once again you havn't countered Guardian's E-M manipulation

*sigh Part 2*

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
You talk about your weaponry. What's stopping me from absorbing your weapons?
http://img518.imageshack.us/my.php?image=apocabsorbunlimitedwg5.png

How on Earth does that prove he could take over Guardian's weapons? Hell beings stronger then Apoc have failed to do so.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest

Or TK crushing you in a forcefield? Or just straight TK crushing you under a building?
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y37/Nightmareman95/HAL10WEEN/Apoccreateforcefield.png
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y37/Nightmareman95/palacerise.png

*snickers* and how are you going to get past his shields again? Which to this date have yet to make a plan to get through them. Also you do realize Guardian has his own form of TK ie. His graviton beam, so there goes that plan of attack.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest

Again, you bring up Apoc's durability.
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y37/Nightmareman95/powers4.png
Despite what some people would say, by looking at BB's expression and the soundwave coming out of his mouth, it's more than a whisper. It's a shout, if not a scream.

and this was already countered pages ago, and for the record Guardian has hurt people stronger then Apoc.

A shout/scream are you flippin kidding me? haha you must be as Apoc clearly wouldn't be around if it was a shout or scream as even Blackbolt made cosmic beings feel fear when he did it and their vastly superior to Apoc.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest

I'm brining up the Ikaris fight one more time, but this time I'm going to highlight something that was overlooked.
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y37/Nightmareman95/powers4.png
Notice the hole in his body which he lets the beams pass through effortlessly.

Good thing Guardian can made a wide-spread beam that is larger then Apoc is in the scan or simply just coat him with the energy like he does with Galactus

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e54/A_Flight6/AlphaFlight100-27.jpg

No way for Apoc to dodge something that coats you.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y37/Nightmareman95/apocmorph4.png
In this one, note that he causes damage to Ikaris that takes him awhile to recover from. Ikaris has reformed from atoms before, so in order to hurt him like that, Apocalypse had to damage his atomic structure. Finally, note in the last panel, that he dodges Ikaris's beams at pointblank range.

No not at all, look at Sersi she has been hurt and didn't recover longer periods then that and they didn't hurt her atomic structure. In another incident Avengers #360, Vision attacks Sersi leaving her nearly for death. So really if you look at the big picture that's not impressive at all, when weaker people can do the exact same thing. She's a top Eternal just like Ikaris

Originally posted by TricksterPriest

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y37/Nightmareman95/apocmorph5.png
And this is the conclusion of the fight.

ooooook, and that proves what?

Originally posted by TricksterPriest

So you've the power to beat Apocalypse a few times. But take the the majority from a being who can control his atomic structure and restructure it to his will, and has technology superior to your own? And not only that, but a being who has never been defeated at full power outside of a plot device?

That's if you ignore everything Guardian has done in the past ie. Ranark who is above Apoc and he can control his atomic structure too. Even if by chance his tech is superior [even though he really hasn't shown in] does it matter when Guardian was built to take on Galactus and he did.
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Summary:
-So once again no counter for Guardian's speed
-No counter for Guardian's shields
-No counter for Guardian accessing Apoc's wavelength and shutting him down for good

its over now correct?

Originally posted by Kurash
its over now correct?

I don't know anymore

hell trick last post should not be allowed since it was supose to have ended before that post.

I will have my answer tommarrow though as of the first page mungi is winning in my book but that could change

that was my last post. So yeah, it's over.

and my post is allowed. West coast time, not east coast. And it's 4:53 now.

im gonna have to agree with trick on the time rule, im gonna count all of his posts

Whatever, all's fair as long as Mungi's allowed to respond as well.

Magneto > Guardian and Apoc. ermmhappy

Originally posted by batdude123
Magneto > Guardian and Apoc. ermmhappy

GTFO, fanboi. doped 😂

Originally posted by TricksterPriest

GTFO, fanboi. doped 😂

🙂

Originally posted by batdude123
🙂

Can you say

King Mungi presented an extremely well organized arguement that Trick didnt exactly do to much to counter. The debate seemed one-sided, it wasnt clear how much time or effort Trickster was putting into this debate. He only had 3 posts i believe to King's however many (way more than 3).

Either way, King was much more clear and easy to follow and his points held focus a lot better. He got on the attack early and Trickster didnt really get a chance to recover, therefore I've got to give my vote to King Mungi

Smurph's Vote (Yes, I'm A Judge)

This made me cringe a little bit. Mungi stomped all over Trick... seriously, that was like a Grizzly Bear vs. Suzy, five year old girl from down the street.

Analytically, I agree with what's been said. Trick didn't do much in the way of countering, or, hell, even posting, and Mungi dropped practically an entire respect thread on his dome...

So, yeah, vote Trickster. ermmhappy

But, srsly,

Judge Vote: King Mungi

So that's game. I lost, as I figured I would. Stupid uber canadians. durlaugh

Seriously, good match. I hope to have a rematch when Apocalypse returns (and finally stops jobbing).

Good fight Mungi. *shakes his hand*

Right back at you, cheers.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Seriously, good match.

Originally posted by Harry Fingerman
What match were you in?

I supposed I could tell you to be nice, but that would be like me telling a hungry lion to be nice to a lamb.

So the first official win goes to the Royal Family? Cool 😈