Originally posted by llagrok
Nah, Naruto is a manga.I don't see how Spidey would make it to 17 spots in seconds. All Jounin have super human speed and reflexes to say the least.
Keep them comic related.
- If there is another forum for discussing the characters, they are banned. This includes game characters, anime/manga, and Star Wars. 😈
Originally posted by Accel
Bravo.*slow claps*
Kage Bunshins have less chakra, that is all. They're still physically equal and just as perceptive as the original. Whether they have a ton of chakra or hardly any doesn't matter.
Originally posted by Switch 07
Keep them comic related.- If there is another forum for discussing the characters, they are banned. This includes game characters, anime/manga, and Star Wars. 😈
Manga is allowed.
Originally posted by llagrok
Kage Bunshins have less chakra, that is all. They're still physically equal and just as perceptive as the original. Whether they have a ton of chakra or hardly any doesn't matter.
The you have the fact that int hat storyline, the original could clearly see Kakashi fine, while his clones had much more trouble keeping up with him. This just seems to prove that his clones clearly weren't up to par as the original.
Originally posted by Accel
Pretty much the entire Naruto series disagrees with you. Using up chakra takes up stamina, which generally makes the user becomes physically tired. Whenever we see Kakashi or Naruto use up a lot of chakra, they become too tired to move nearly as fast as they do n their prime.The you have the fact that int hat storyline, the original could clearly see Kakashi fine, while his clones had much more trouble keeping up with him. This just seems to prove that his clones clearly weren't up to par as the original.
Uhm, no...
You are mistaken.
While the Kage Bunshin would tire when using their chakra, they don't start out fatigued or weaker/slower than the original. They just have less chakra at their disposal. Mizu Bunshins are 1/10 of their creator's strength, while kage bunshins are 100% as far as strength, speed and reflexes are concerned.
Originally posted by grey fox
Heres the thing though, Spideys eyemasks alow him to see out but not to see IN. Thus rendering Itachi's most powerful weapon useless.
Originally posted by Accel
Didn't really consider it slow, but when they're all just standing around, it really takes away from the impressiveness of it all.I wouldn't put it entirely out of Spidey' range of speed.
That area is a lot bigger then you realise. Those mushrooms are huge man!
And the smoke cloud from first the kage bunshin is still disappating by the time the last one is hit. Heck, some of the *poof* sound effects from Kakashi killing a kage bunshin are still playing by the time he kills the next one... and the one after that... and the one after that. He was moving so fast he was seemingly in 17 places at once. Thats fast. Given the size of the area, that is speed far greater then anything Spider-man has every displayed.
Originally posted by llagrok
Uhm, no...You are mistaken.
While the Kage Bunshin would tire when using their chakra, they don't start out fatigued or weaker/slower than the original. They just have less chakra at their disposal. Mizu Bunshins are 1/10 of their creator's strength, while kage bunshins are 100% as far as strength, speed and reflexes are concerned.
We’ve already seen that using up chakra consumes their strength and stamina, especially with Kakashi, Zabuza, Naruto, etc, so it clearly plays a significant role in how physically fit they are.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
That area is a lot bigger then you realise. Those mushrooms are huge man!And the smoke cloud from first the kage bunshin is still disappating by the time the last one is hit. Heck, some of the *poof* sound effects from Kakashi killing a kage bunshin are still playing by the time he kills the next one... and the one after that... and the one after that. He was moving so fast he was seemingly in 17 places at once. Thats fast. Given the size of the area, that is speed far greater then anything Spider-man has every displayed.
The whole sequence where we see him take out each clone just seemed to me like the writer was showing Kakashi taking out the clones out one by one so that we knew how well he was doing, but not necessarily that he was doing it so fast that he seemed to take each one out a split second after taking another one out. It felt like we were just being shown something similar to his his clash with the first clone, except in a wide-view mode to just fast-forward the pace in that scene (if that explanation makes any sense).
Originally posted by Accel
I’m aware that it’s fast and of how big the landscape is, but it still doesn’t strike me as something Spidey couldn’t replicate in terms of speed (except for that leap he does going through that first mushroom).The whole sequence where we see him take out each clone just seemed to me like the writer was showing Kakashi taking out the clones out one by one so that we knew how well he was doing, but not necessarily that he was doing it so fast that he seemed to take each one out a split second after taking another one out. It felt like we were just being shown something similar to his his clash with the first clone, except in a wide-view mode to just fast-forward the pace in that scene (if that explanation makes any sense).
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It is represented in a single panel with all the clones exploding (being killed) seemingly at the same time. How does that come of as anything other then Kakashi moving so fast that he killed each clone with in a split second of each other?
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
😕It is represented in a single panel with all the clones exploding (being killed) seemingly at the same time. How does that come of as anything other then Kakashi moving so fast that he killed each clone with in a split second of each other?
It’s kind of like when you see someone who you know doesn’t have superspeed appear in multiple spots in one panel, but you know he isn’t really being in all those places at the exact same time (like Spidey or this guy for instance). To me, Kakashi’s movements there are basically kind of like that, only shown in a wider-spread area.