Weiss, no contest. He is the perfect result of experimentation trying to boost human power to limitless levels, he is pure and untainted by anything. Genesis was the failed result of a failed project, imperfect and deteriorating.
Something might give G a power boost post DoC, but as for DoC😮nline Weiss vs CC Genesis, Weiss takes the cake.
Originally posted by SHM
It's hard to choose the winner, because it's hard to understand Genesis' powers.He merged with Minerva, the goddess of Gaia, and that makes him very powerful. But in the same time, he lost to Zack... He shouldn't have won of Genesis Avatar. It didn't make sense.
Zack beats Genesis due to PIS thought that was obvious ^^'
And there we have another example of Nikkolas' "greate" knowledge about FFVII's universe.
His "ruined" body could contain her energy, because it wasn't ruined anymore. His deterioration was cured when merging with her, it was cured because he merged with her.
I don't know what is more hilarious, you trying to bash FFVII most of the time, or when you try to prove you know more about it than me.
His "ruined" body could contain her energy, because it wasn't ruined anymore. His deterioration was cured when merging with her, it was cured because he merged with her.
Provide proof. Never once stated in the game..
He has his original hair and everything back after the fight but there's zero proof his deterioration stopped during the fight after the merger.
Maybe it's said in the Ultimania? If so, I'd like a link to your translation.
My view from teh game was that Minerva rejected him. Thus, because she didnt' allow him to be with her, she halted his degeneration and inevitable death after his losses to Zack. She didn't allow him to die.
I don't know what is more hilarious, you trying to bash FFVII most of the time, or when you try to prove you know more about it than me.
It's sad I know more about it then you when you said we see Sephiroth go intangible. lol
You're a joke and know nothing. Fanboys.
I also have a habit of actually supporting my case with evidence. you claim things and act like a superior jackass. You need to learn how to debate.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=wu9w57tbwgo
I see Sephiroth going intangible 35 seconds in the video. Don't you?
Originally posted by shin_gearToo bad that's not Sephiroth.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=wu9w57tbwgoI see Sephiroth going intangible 35 seconds in the video. Don't you?
Originally posted by shin_gearSo because Seph is a human with J-cells, he can do what a being made of nothing but J-Cells can? No, he can't. If he could go instantly intangible, why didn't he use it the many times he was pwned by Cloud(and don't tell me he was arrogant, I know that, but before Cloud could hit him, why couldn't he use it)?
Hannibal explained why it's safe to assume Sephiroth himself could do that because of something having to do with Jenova or G cells so...
It's shown in the game and confirmed in the ultimania that people with jenova Cells can use her abilities to a degree.
http://faqs.ign.com/articles/698/698416p1.html
"This ability is not limited solely to Jenova itself, for those who have its cells within them possess it as well, though in an incomplete form.
Immediately prior to the start of the game, when Cloud's mind was shattered, he ran into Tifa and seemed to immediately return to "normal" (-->P.13); this was because the mimic abilities of the Jenova cells inside Cloud read her mind, seeing her memories of him, which were then combined with his own ideal vision of himself, fashioning a new personality for him. lls can use her abilities."
Now while Seph undoubtedly has a better control of this than anyone else save Jenova itself, I've yet to see any source saying outright "Sephiroth can do anything Jenova can do". Thus, ASSuming he can go intangible because she can is just speculation and nothing more.
Originally posted by Shin_NikkolasAlright, makes sense.
It's shown in the game and confirmed in the ultimania that people with jenova Cells can use her abilities to a degree.http://faqs.ign.com/articles/698/698416p1.html
"This ability is not limited solely to Jenova itself, for those who have its cells within them possess it as well, though in an incomplete form.
Immediately prior to the start of the game, when Cloud's mind was shattered, he ran into Tifa and seemed to immediately return to "normal" (-->P.13); this was because the mimic abilities of the Jenova cells inside Cloud read her mind, seeing her memories of him, which were then combined with his own ideal vision of himself, fashioning a new personality for him. lls can use her abilities."Now while Seph undoubtedly has a better control of this than anyone else save Jenova itself, I've yet to see any source saying outright "Sephiroth can do anything Jenova can do". Thus, ASSuming he can go intangible because she can is just speculation and nothing more.
Originally posted by Violent2Dope
So because Seph is a human with J-cells,
Stop. Stop right there.
A spirit body(Kadaj) + J-cells(in the box) = human????
....No.
Sephiroth's body is Jenova. Jenova's body in FFVII = Sephiroth's body in AC.
Come on, that's not hard to understand.
And Nikkolas, you want evidence? Why? To say it's not cannon(like you did with the UOG), or call the creators "senile"? You are blind by your bias, fanboyism, and hate. You will ignore anything that goes against your opinion. But just to amuse you:
Translation of CC Ultimania:
"In CC Nero and Weiss are on a mission to recover Genesis, so in this case "will he agree to it?" means "will he agree to join us or not?" But, as in the response for A6-3, Genesis rejects it and decides to have himself sealed in the water-filled chamber below Midgar."
The text says he sealed himself bellow Midgar, not that he tried to find J-cells again to stop his deterioration. And after years sealed, he is pretty fine in DoC. And after being defeated by Zack, he said that he succeeded in his plan.
So yes, he is cured. But I'm sure you will ignore it... Because ignoring facts and evidences is what you do best.
Seriously dude... Stop! Stop trying to prove your knowledge about a game you hate. It's ridiculous and you are making yourself look like a fool.
No, wait! It's funny to see you making yourself look like a fool.
*Points at you and laugh*
And Nikkolas, you want evidence? Why? To say it's not cannon(like you did with the UOG)
lol I like this. In fact, I love it.
I JUST said the UOG is canon in another thread.
I DARE YOU to find a quote of me saying the Guide isn't canon. Come on.
or call the creators "senile"?
They are pretty stupid overall.
"In CC Nero and Weiss are on a mission to recover Genesis, so in this case "will he agree to it?" means "will he agree to join us or not?" But, as in the response for A6-3, Genesis rejects it and decides to have himself sealed in the water-filled chamber below Midgar."
Already read this.
The text says he sealed himself bellow Midgar, not that he tried to find J-cells again to stop his deterioration.
Because he's not deteriorating any more as I've already said.
So yes, he is cured. But I'm sure you will ignore it... Because ignoring facts and evidences is what you do best.
Your reading comprehension problem is as big as Fascist's....
READ for once?
I fully acknowledge he's cured.
What I'm contesting is your unsupported claim that:
His deterioration was cured when merging with her
Want proof.
Seriously dude... Stop! Stop trying to prove your knowledge about a game you hate. It's ridiculous and you are making yourself look like a fool.
Sorry SHM. It's best not to ASSume.
I like CC. It's the only good thing about FF7 since...FF7.
And I, unlike you, back up what I say.
It's obvious to anyone who's read the script or watched the scene that Genesis is cured after the merger but what you said is that he was cured JUST as he merged with her. Afterall, i said maybe his ruined body couldn't contain her power and you replied by saying the merger cured him.
I want this proven with a quote. Otherwise it's perfectly reasonable to say he was cured after the merger and after she left him because only then do we see he's back to normal.