Illidan Stormrage Vs. Ganon

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Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Those were mystical chains made by the Sages of the LoZverse. He also in his bare hands crushed the Fused Shadows, which are immensley powerful artifacts, he did it with one hand. My respect thread for him admittedly sucks, don't base your opinion on that.

We do not know how durable the Fused Shadows are. So saying Ganondorf crushed broke it with his hands doesn't really mean much. A lot of powerful artifacts are easily destroyed.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Yes he is. Link wields the Master Sword and often the Light Arrows, the only weapons that can harm him. Link is stronger than you think, and also, Link has NEVER beaten Ganondorf in a game that didn't have PIS bullshit helping him.

That's pure fanboyism right there. Link never beaten Ganondorf blah blah blah. Link even beats Ganon when he has the full Triforce.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Ganon is invulnerable to all harm. 😛

Expect he is injured by his own attacks.

Oh i feel story for hte white mask guy who Ganondorf kills in that video.. Well Ganon cannot be killed without Light arrows + the master sword right? Then again Illidan is stronger than any of Archimondes minons with the skull of guldan which puts him in a much higher catagory of demonicness...thing... Id say illidian, even if he has to wander the earth to find light arrows and link to take hte master sword from him

Has no one thought about the fact that Ganon maybe is immune to all attacks except for the sword of Link, in the Zelda game. Illidan maybe use an attack that does not exist in the Zelda world and if he does, there is no telling that Ganon is immune to that 🙂

Or am I entirely wrong? 😐

you could be right, but its a little bit hard to debate such things because theres no way of knowing what attack A of world B, will do against character C in world D basically. I mean for example for all we know illidans blasts could one hit him, link, break objects that are suppoedly indestructable in another world.

But i think Ganon will get his ass beats even if he doesnt die.

Originally posted by ESB -1138
We do not know how durable the Fused Shadows are. So saying Ganondorf crushed broke it with his hands doesn't really mean much. A lot of powerful artifacts are easily destroyed.

That's pure fanboyism right there. Link never beaten Ganondorf blah blah blah. Link even beats Ganon when he has the full Triforce.

Expect he is injured by his own attacks.

1. True, but point still stands. Neither one of us can prove it either way, only I have some evidence in the fact that it is a powerful artifact. Is the Master Sword also brittle?

2. ROFL notice where I said GanonDORF. Ganondorf in the 3D games clearly shows more power than the others.

OoT: Link fights Ganondorf, who is toying with him. Because of this, Link is able to defeat Ganon. Ganon then brings his whole castle down on top of himself. Ganon still lives, and knocks the MS out of Link's reach. They then have a short battle, Link using Megaton Hammer or Biggoron's Sword. You may try to say,"That proves he is not invulnerable" but this is clearly the most bullshit PIS gayness in the series. For one, if other weapons could hurt Ganon, what is even the point of getting the MS, especially since Biggoron's Sword is more powerful? Secondly, this feat contradicts with the other games, like WW, when Ganon was stated to only be harmed by the MS and Light Arrows. Anyway, back to the fight, Ganon is weakened, and Link retrieves the MS, fights him and weakens him some more. Zelda uses her power to hold down Ganon while weakened, and supercharges his MS, to strike at Ganon, making him vulnerable to the Sages, who then seal him. Could Link have done all this by himself? No, hell, he wouldn't of even gotten out of the falling castle without Zelda!

WW: This one is pretty simple. noy only is Ganon doubleteamed by Link and Zelda(who uses Light Arrows), but he doesn't even have his Triforce of Power anymore. A notable thing is that even without it, Ganon could still take multiple hits from Light Arrows, compared to the one hit kill it usually is.

TP: First, Ganon possesses Zelda and fights Link. Then he leaves her body and fights Link and Midna(who had the Fused Shadows) as a beast. After being momentarily subdued, Midna uses the full power of the Fused Shadows to try and defeat Ganon on her own, and she teles Link and Zelda outside. Ganon walks out triumphant, and crushes her Fused Shadows. He then fights Link and Zelda on horseback, summoning wraiths, with Zelda using Light Arrows. He then has a one on one battle with Link swordsman style, and eventually has the MS stabbed in his chest. He then seemed to die, but that is not so. We see a vision of Zant(who is Ganon's connection to the physical realm) snao his neck, and Ganon's eyes go blank, and he simply lost his physical connection to the world. Also, one aspect of this fight I would like to mention, is the gameplay scene of Ganon being overpowered by Link in a swordlock. First of all, TP Link is physically strong to the point of lifting 10+ ton Gorons up and throwing them with ease out of arenas, secondly, Ganon is likely weakened by this point, thirdly, this may just be bullshit gameplay. Oh, and did I mention all of this happened with Ganon having a big ass glowing hole in his chest?

3. A. Gameplay

B. The MS is a weapon that can be used to deflect evil blasts back at Link's opponent, and I think it also puts some of its own essence in the reflected blast.

Ganon was a pig like thing

GanonDorf is more human like and more powerful but as you said only his own attacks, Link's sword and light arrows hurt him but his arrogance is his main undoing, You both make real good points, he seems to be immune to death, perhaps one day we will have the answer also i remember stabbing him in the chest with the sword in wind waker so fun. but still go Ganon

Does not Demon Illidan have Chaos damage? hmm

Originally posted by Diamond Kisses
[b]Has no one thought about the fact that Ganon maybe is immune to all attacks except for the sword of Link, in the Zelda game. Illidan maybe use an attack that does not exist in the Zelda world and if he does, there is no telling that Ganon is immune to that 🙂

Or am I entirely wrong? 😐 [/B]

Okay. Sargeras is only invulnerable in Warcraftverse now. Pyron now beats him.

Also, what will Chaos Damage do?

P.S. Sorry if I sound hostile DK, this is just the way I debate.

I never debated for or against Sargeras, so that is no problem with me 😛

Chaos Damage penetrate all resistances and protections. Even divine armor, which is representive for invournable in-game Warcraft 😄

Originally posted by Diamond Kisses
[b]I never debated for or against Sargeras, so that is no problem with me 😛

Chaos Damage penetrate all resistances and protections. Even divine armor, which is representive for invournable in-game Warcraft 😄 [/B]

Really? Hmmmm...Not sure how that would work, Ganon's invulnerability isn't so much an armor or enchantment as it is, well, it just is.

For example, Archimonde had divine armor and he is considered unharmable by any physical and most magical attacks. A physical strike by a unit with chaos damage does just as much damage as if Archimonde would have been unarmored 🙂

Unarmored and divine armor in this sense does not exactly mean that they got an armor, just that they can withstand damage in different ways 😛

Originally posted by Diamond Kisses
[b]For example, Archimonde had divine armor and he is considered unharmable by any physical and most magical attacks. A physical strike by a unit with chaos damage does just as much damage as if Archimonde would have been unarmored 🙂

Unarmored and divine armor in this sense does not exactly mean that they got an armor, just that they can withstand damage in different ways 😛 [/B]

Hmmm...I'm not sure. I guess it could hurt him, tho Ganon's invulnerability comes directly from a world creating god's power.

I think it could 😄

Do you remember our talk about Amazo? The android 🙂

In one later episode, they discovered that there one single thing that could harm him; Chaos focused in an attack oh

Originally posted by Diamond Kisses
[b]I think it could 😄

Do you remember our talk about Amazo? The android 🙂

In one later episode, they discovered that there one single thing that could harm him; Chaos focused in an attack oh [/B]

You are comparing different universes. Don't do it, or Illidan gets purified by crosses and Holy Water.

I was just mentioning it, speaking of nothing 😛

I did not even intend in any way to match the two different chaos attacks. It just came to mind 😄

Originally posted by Diamond Kisses
[b]I was just mentioning it, speaking of nothing 😛

I did not even intend in any way to match the two different chaos attacks. It just came to mind 😄 [/B]

Meh, it may work.

Originally posted by Burning thought
rofl lmao, wtf? this place overun with fanboyism? and you come from the Comic book vs, i dont even need to go into detail on this point rofl....jeez, maybe if your head wasnt missing up your @ss as well you wouldnt say such rubbish and would realise this.

also being undamagable by the mastersword isnt neccerily how strong he is, not in illidans eyes, illy will still duche the guy up so bad that hell wish he would concede, hell maybe hell get knocked out..or buried like i said before. Submissoned ftw

I absolutly love how you get basically owned by the next post after this one and your own basically proving my point...

I love how after I point out the rampant fanboyism. you try and utterly fail to defend against this observation because your defense is instantly undone by the next poster saying he thinks that someone wins purely because he likes the character.

Originally posted by Darkhalen
Ganon wins because well I like Ganon

Basically Ganon's "invulnerability" comes from his "gods". and the means of harming him is a weaopon specifically designed to povercome that god's power.

Illidan stomps Ganon 🪩

Originally posted by Darkhalen
Illidan wins because well I like Illidan