Sonic had help from Shadow who is debatably superior to Sonic and Metal sonic, not to menstion other people giving him advice, even Eggman.
Arceus created time, space and through him created the beings that made spirit and matter
hes not just some bone idle time god like Solaris, hes basically "the" God in a way. Just of the Pokemon universe
Originally posted by Burning thought
Sonic had help from Shadow who is debatably superior to Sonic and Metal sonic, not to menstion other people giving him advice, even Eggman.
And that was Super Sonic; this is Hyper Sonic. Hyper Sonic is much stronger than Shadow.
Originally posted by Burning thought
Arceus created time, space and through him created the beings that made spirit and matterhes not just some bone idle time god like Solaris, hes basically "the" God in a way. Just of the Pokemon universe
Who still gets beaten in Diamond and Pearl. What's your point?
Originally posted by ESB -1138
And that was Super Sonic; this is Hyper Sonic. Hyper Sonic is much stronger than Shadow.Who still gets beaten in Diamond and Pearl. What's your point?
hmm sorry i dont know about Hyper then but still as i say
beaten? canonwise? or in-game? i have not played against it, but ive played the games and if you mean a little pokemon battle where it faints and you catch it in a ball then you fail, thats gameplay.
the thing itself is supposed to be immense, and the fact still stands, Hyper sonic altho more power wont have the support he gets to fight Solaris from shadow or Metal and hell, just w8 for his rings to wear out, whats he going to do against a God of this level.
Originally posted by Burning thought
hmm sorry i dont know about Hyper then but still as i say
Hyper form is achieved by using the Master Emerald to further empower the Chaos Emeralds turning them into Super Emeralds.
Originally posted by Burning thought
beaten? canonwise? or in-game? i have not played against it, but ive played the games and if you mean a little pokemon battle where it faints and you catch it in a ball then you fail, thats gameplay.
And yet Arceus has only appeared in the game so that's all we can go by. Him being beaten by basically any Pokemon. That's why I have said again and again and again that this Pokemon is an UNKNOWN because he has yet to actually appear in a movie or anime to show his true feats. How come no one here seems to understand that?
Originally posted by Burning thought
the thing itself is supposed to be immense, and the fact still stands, Hyper sonic altho more power wont have the support he gets to fight Solaris from shadow or Metal and hell, just w8 for his rings to wear out, whats he going to do against a God of this level.
The only reason Sonic needed Shadow's and Silver's help was because Solaris existed in the past, present, and future and could only be defeated in the past, present, and future at the same time. Kind of hard for Sonic to be in three places at once.
Oh and his Ring Energy won't go down considering Hyper Sonic would use Chaos Control to just freeze time.
Originally posted by ESB -1138
Hyper form is achieved by using the Master Emerald to further empower the Chaos Emeralds turning them into Super Emeralds.And yet Arceus has only appeared in the game so that's all we can go by. Him being beaten by basically any Pokemon. That's why I have said again and again and again that this Pokemon is an UNKNOWN because he has yet to actually appear in a movie or anime to show his true feats. How come no one here seems to understand that?
The only reason Sonic needed Shadow's and Silver's help was because Solaris existed in the past, present, and future and could only be defeated in the past, present, and future at the same time. Kind of hard for Sonic to be in three places at once.
Oh and his Ring Energy won't go down considering Hyper Sonic would use Chaos Control to just freeze time.
yes he has only appeared in the game, but actually gameplay is not where you get info on him, its the lore, and in the book "The Original Story" it says hes like God, creating time and space, then created other beings to create spirit and matter while he sleeps, thats the lore, if hes created Time and space itself, Time freeze is unlikely going to work on him, also you said that argument before, freezing time, but Sonic himself is not himself frozen is he, otherwise he would imediatley lose, its sonics power thats depleting not anything outside and his chaos control freezes everything outside.
Originally posted by Burning thought
yes he has only appeared in the game, but actually gameplay is not where you get info on him, its the lore, and in the book "The Original Story" it says hes like God, creating time and space, then created other beings to create spirit and matter while he sleeps, thats the lore, if hes created Time and space itself, Time freeze is unlikely going to work on him, also you said that argument before, freezing time, but Sonic himself is not himself frozen is he, otherwise he would imediatley lose, its sonics power thats depleting not anything outside and his chaos control freezes everything outside.
No because we see Super Shadow use Chaos Control while fighting Devil Doom and his ring count doesn't go down. And yet even though Arceus "created" everything and is "God" it cannot learn every TM like Mew can. Even though it is said that it created the world with its thousand arms, it cannot learn any TMs nor HMs that uses arms or punches. Heck it's appearence lacks any arms at all. You see Arceus is again an unknown. Thing is the story of the "Original Story" could be something the developers through in there to show that ancient cultures would worship Pokemon. Until it is offically seen in the anime/movie it is basically an unknown.
Originally posted by ESB -1138
No because we see Super Shadow use Chaos Control while fighting Devil Doom and his ring count doesn't go down. And yet even though Arceus "created" everything and is "God" it cannot learn every TM like Mew can. Even though it is said that it created the world with its thousand arms, it cannot learn any TMs nor HMs that uses arms or punches. Heck it's appearence lacks any arms at all. You see Arceus is again an unknown. Thing is the story of the "Original Story" could be something the developers through in there to show that ancient cultures would worship Pokemon. Until it is offically seen in the anime/movie it is basically an unknown.
can you show me this please, devil doom thing and his power not reducing
Originally posted by Burning thought
can you show me this please, devil doom thing and his power not reducing
I'll try.
YouTube video
Shadow slows down time and thus his ring depletion time also slowed down.
Originally posted by Burning thought
can you show me this please?
He only appeared in Sonic 3 & Knuckles. The Chaos Emeralds are described as having unlimited energy, which is why they are often sought after by other characters. However in Sonic Adventure 2, after the ARK's Eclipse Cannon destroyed half of the moon with six emeralds, it was described as taking far too long to charge back up without the seventh. When all seven of the emeralds are in close proximity, they react with each other, generating far more powerful energy than simply seven times the energy of one emerald.
The Master Emerald has unbound power, and is used to keep the Angel Island afloat in the sky. The Master Emerald also has the power to fully control everything that the Chaos Emeralds do, as according to the ancient saying from Sonic Adventure: "The servers are the 7 Chaos. Chaos is power, power enriched by the heart. The controller is the one that unifies the chaos." The Master Emerald also possesses the ability to both negate and empower the Chaos Emeralds, meaning it can stop the energy of the Chaos Emeralds, or enhance them, as seen in Sonic Adventure and Sonic 3 & Knuckles, respectively. In Sonic & Knuckles, Mecha Sonic also absorbed its energy to obtain an enhanced form very similar to Super Sonic. The Master Emerald has also been seen creating three-dimensional holographic images within itself in Sonic Adventure.
The Master Emerald further empowered the Chaos Emeralds transforming them into Super Emeralds and thus allowing Sonic to transform into Hyper Sonic. Starting with Sonic R, players are no longer allowed to manually transform, but are simply given the ability through the story. The rings are only used as a gameplay mechanic to limit how long the form can last. The exception to this was Sonic Riders, where only one Ring is needed. Running out of Rings in a final boss battle results in an instant loss of a life, usually due to the character being in unsurvivable conditions such as over a flooded city street or in the cold of space.
Hyper characters have unlimited energy and are invincible. Hyper Sonic would definitely win, even if Arceus could hurt Hyper Sonic, which it can't, Hyper Sonic is way too quick to catch and has Chaos Control to freeze time and 1 hit on Arceus will end the fight, or he could Spin Dash Combo someone way tougher and vaporize them, that's how incredible Hyper Sonic is, he'll do a 100-hit-Spin Dash-Combo on Arceus in 0.1 second and vaporize it. Arceus isn't gonna be able to take Hyper Sonic. 😄 😎