Storm, Iceman, and Magneto vs. Superman

Started by Symmetric Chaos11 pages

Originally posted by Soljer
She can't think faster than Superman can move.

Before the sound of the starting bell touches her hears, she already lacks them.

Doesn't we haves CIS here? herbvin

Originally posted by 2damnloud
Opinions vary.

So what??

I say she can.

and you're wrong, unless you're actually referring to the kryptonite thing...

Originally posted by 2damnloud
Well, there is the "before he even moves she can anticipate it a few seconds or so"😬

she can't, and thats a flawed argument...

even if she could anticipate his movements, his mind has processed the thought about a thousand times faster than her mind could...

by the time her mind actually processes the thought, she'll be unconscious, or dead, and then won't process the thought...

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Doesn't we haves CIS here? herbvin

Apparently not for Storm; why should her opponents suffer similarly?

Originally posted by pr1983
she can't, and thats a flawed argument...

Technically she can but the power never actually gets used.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Technically she can but the power never actually gets used.

what? use her newfound telepathy to read his mind and sense what he's going to do before he moves even though by the time she'd have processed the thought she'd be out of the fight?

Originally posted by pr1983
what? use her newfound telepathy to read his mind and sense what he's going to do before he moves even though by the time she'd have processed the thought she'd be out of the fight?

No I mean she does actually have the power to predict what he'll do. No mind reading, I believe it involves electrical impulses in the body (something of a one time power though)

OK 2Damn how about this. their standing at opposite endzones of a foot ball Field. the bell sounds!! Superman releases an uncharacteristically slow heat vision blast that would reach her in 3 seconds.

1. If she tries to fly up out of the way he would expect that.
2. There's no way she can possibly deflect it.
3. Lets say at the bell she strikes first calling down lightning, It won't ko him. it may just piss him off.
4. is she still claustrophobic? hhmmm...
5. There is no way she could take the beating WW took.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
No I mean she does actually have the power to predict what he'll do. No mind reading, I believe it involves electrical impulses in the body (something of a one time power though)

even if she has that ability, electrical impulses move through his body thousands of times faster than they do through hers...

if she was as fast as him, maybe, but she isn't, i'm not exagerrating when i say he's thousands of times faster...

for her power to be effective, she needs to be fast enough to act on that prediction...

and EVEN then, whats she going to do? lightning to his exterior? not to someone who can sleep in the core of the sun, and has shrugged off bolts of magical lightning from the wizard shazam...

winds? clark's super breath is easily as strong as any winds she can muster, if not more powerful... and he can always just fly really fast too...

lightning inside his brain? not when every single cell is protected by a bio electric field...

how can she flash freeze someone who finds the vacuum of space comfortable?

and this is all assuming she can hit him... this is someone who can move so fast he's invisible to the naked eye... and then some.

her lightning won't hurt him, he can out tornado her, she cant freeze him and her bolt to the synapses will be ineffective...

unless she's packing magic, kryptonite or can pull a red sun out of her ass, she isnt hurting him. at all.

her? she has human durability. the only way she'll last any amount of time is if he gets indecisive about how to take her down...

Originally posted by pr1983
even if she has that ability, electrical impulses move through his body thousands of times faster than they do through hers...

if she was as fast as him, maybe, but she isn't, i'm not exagerrating when i say he's thousands of times faster...

for her power to be effective, she needs to be fast enough to act on that prediction...

and EVEN then, whats she going to do? lightning to his exterior? not to someone who can sleep in the core of the sun, and has shrugged off bolts of magical lightning from the wizard shazam...

winds? clark's super breath is easily as strong as any winds she can muster, if not more powerful... and he can always just fly really fast too...

lightning inside his brain? not when every single cell is protected by a bio electric field...

how can she flash freeze someone who finds the vacuum of space comfortable?

and this is all assuming she can hit him... this is someone who can move so fast he's invisible to the naked eye... and then some.

her lightning won't hurt him, he can out tornado her, she cant freeze him and her bolt to the synapses will be ineffective...

unless she's packing magic, kryptonite or can pull a red sun out of her ass, she isnt hurting him. at all.

her? she has human durability. the only way she'll last any amount of time is if he gets indecisive about how to take her down...

AAAAAAMMMMMEEEEENNNNN BROTHER!!!!! band

Originally posted by pr1983
even if she has that ability, electrical impulses move through his body thousands of times faster than they do through hers...

if she was as fast as him, maybe, but she isn't, i'm not exagerrating when i say he's thousands of times faster...

for her power to be effective, she needs to be fast enough to act on that prediction...

and EVEN then, whats she going to do? lightning to his exterior? not to someone who can sleep in the core of the sun, and has shrugged off bolts of magical lightning from the wizard shazam...

winds? clark's super breath is easily as strong as any winds she can muster, if not more powerful... and he can always just fly really fast too...

lightning inside his brain? not when every single cell is protected by a bio electric field...

how can she flash freeze someone who finds the vacuum of space comfortable?

and this is all assuming she can hit him... this is someone who can move so fast he's invisible to the naked eye... and then some.

her lightning won't hurt him, he can out tornado her, she cant freeze him and her bolt to the synapses will be ineffective...

unless she's packing magic, kryptonite or can pull a red sun out of her ass, she isnt hurting him. at all.

her? she has human durability. the only way she'll last any amount of time is if he gets indecisive about how to take her down...

I know that . . .

You seemed to be denying that she possessed the precog thing entirely, simply because 2damn claimed it existed.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
I know that . . .

You seemed to be denying that she possessed the precog thing entirely, simply because 2damn claimed it existed.

sowwie... 😮

if its reading electrical impulses, thats not really precognition is it?

it's not actual 'i can see the future' shit is it...

i'm only debating cos i disagree... if i agreed with something, i'd support it... 😖

Yea, he is also protected by that bio-ELECTRIC field.

Storm can take it away.✅

She stands a good chance of winning.

Magneto could take it away too and Iceman could just freeze him from his insides.

The team PWNS him.✅

Originally posted by 2damnloud
Yea, he is also protected by that bio-ELECTRIC field.

Storm can take it away.✅

She stands a good chance of winning.

you're kidding... you have to be kidding... i'm actually convinced now that you don't actually believe a word you say, that you just do it for the sake of it...

I'm serious.

It's just like she can kill GL by making an electric Storm inside his shield, work her powers through Magneto's shielding, and rip electrons from Stardust.

She's just good like that.✅

With his bio-aura now gone, she unleashes and he dies.

Him surviving in the core of the sun is irrelevant since he THRIVES in it.

Originally posted by 2damnloud
I'm serious.

It's just like she can kill GL by making an electric Storm inside his shield, work her powers through Magneto's shielding, and rip electrons from Stardust.

She's just good like that.✅

With his bio-aura now gone, she unleashes and he dies.

Him surviving in the core of the sun is irrelevant since he THRIVES in it.

umm...

she can't do that to a gl, as the shields can block psionic signals. so you're wrong there, unless the gl is stupid enough to let her try.

magneto's shield isnt the same as a gl's so using that kind of logic is wrong too. thats assuming she can even get through his shield, which she hasnt shown herself capable of doing consistently.

as regards superman... so wait. she's supposed to use her ability to detect his electric impulses (even though they move far faster than she can, and you keep disregarding the fact that reflexes and speed play a part in any way she's going to take advantage of that), then she's supposed to take away his bio electric field (even though its completely alien to her and nothing like she's ever encountered), and then she's what, supposed to fry his synapses? and he's what, sitting on his ass watching tv at the time?

No. not a snowballs chance in hell.

even if she could predict his movements, it wont work, because: his body, his thought processes, metabolism, bio electric impulses, everything about him, is hundreds of times more evolved than hers (and faster). she can't process the recognition of what he's going to do fast enough for her to stop him flash freezing/frying or just simply killing her.

even if she did take down his bio electric field? she's supposed to put him down in one shot? whats she going to unleash, black panther's jobbing aura? against the guy who takes hits from darkseid, mental attacks from despero and magical bolts from shazam without being put out for the count? but wait, she's attacking his BRAIN. yeah, his brain is just as durable as the rest of him. so no, again, no.

he thrives in the sun yes, but there's also the fact that the sun still gives thousands of degrees of heat, and it doesnt affect him in the slightest. he doesnt absorb it all, it just doesnt affect him.

so no, again, you stretch, and fail.

This is basically Magneto vs. Superman as Storm and Iceman stand around and reminisce about galactic cores and full potentials.

Originally posted by pr1983
umm...

she can't do that to a gl, as the shields can block psionic signals. so you're wrong there, unless the gl is stupid enough to let her try.

magneto's shield isnt the same as a gl's so using that kind of logic is wrong too. thats assuming she can even get through his shield, which she hasnt shown herself capable of doing consistently.

as regards superman... so wait. she's supposed to use her ability to detect his electric impulses (even though they move far faster than she can, and you keep disregarding the fact that reflexes and speed play a part in any way she's going to take advantage of that), then she's supposed to take away his bio electric field (even though its completely alien to her and nothing like she's ever encountered), and then she's what, supposed to fry his synapses? and he's what, sitting on his ass watching tv at the time?

No. not a snowballs chance in hell.

even if she could predict his movements, it wont work, because: his body, his thought processes, metabolism, bio electric impulses, everything about him, is hundreds of times more evolved than hers (and faster). she can't process the recognition of what he's going to do fast enough for her to stop him flash freezing/frying or just simply killing her.

even if she did take down his bio electric field? she's supposed to put him down in one shot? whats she going to unleash, black panther's jobbing aura? against the guy who takes hits from darkseid, mental attacks from despero and magical bolts from shazam without being put out for the count? but wait, she's attacking his BRAIN. yeah, his brain is just as durable as the rest of him. so no, again, no.

he thrives in the sun yes, but there's also the fact that the sun still gives thousands of degrees of heat, and it doesnt affect him in the slightest. he doesnt absorb it all, it just doesnt affect him.

so no, again, you stretch, and fail.

Blah blah.

You're under the assumption that his neural pathways have to move at lightspeed to foster superfast movements??

The neurons can fire at normal speed, and the action be fast.

If infact she can see the neurons fire BEFORE the superfast action, how fast the action is becomes irrelevant😂.

In talking about linear movements:

Superman see's her and percieves her, he then decides to move in on her. His brain sends the signal to his muscles at normal speed and he moves at whatever stupid dumb fast speed. Storm is already ready like.........yesterday😂

Then again, why would he fly superfast into someone who he only has limited knowledge of?😂

About the shields:

The same foolish argument was used for Ironman. All psionics are not the same.

She's gotten through Magneto's shields enough.

His field is electrical, so no, it's not "alien to her"😂 🙄.

What do punches from those guys have to do with Storm?? Do you have any actual proof of any correlation?? No?? Well trash that shit.

Shazzam's lightning being magical= Stronger than Storm's? Again, do you have proof of a correlation??

It has been revelaed that Storm is a direct descendant of the first sorceress. I guess her lightning is EXTRA, stupid WTF strong, so she REALLY shits on Supes.😂

The sun's core gives off millions of degrees of heat. And do you have any proof that the heat aspect is something seperate and apart from what he thrives on and therefore would hurt him if he wasn't so "durable"?? If this was true, then he wouldn't get hurt by any blast at any time except ones>>>>the core of the sun. Ask yourself, has he been phased by blast that are less than the intensity of the Sun's core?? See how your argument falls apart??😂

The shit fell apart in the first sentence.--"He thrives on the sun, yes, but......". There are no "buts". He either does, or he doesn't😂

Stop trolling. Thanks. 🙂.

Originally posted by 2damnloud
Blah blah.

You're under the assumption that his neural pathways have to move at lightspeed to foster superfast movements??

The neurons can fire at normal speed, and the action be fast.

If infact she can see the neurons fire BEFORE the superfast action, how fast the action is becomes irrelevant😂.

In talking about linear movements:

Superman see's her and percieves her, he then decides to move in on her. His brain sends the signal to his muscles at normal speed and he moves at whatever stupid dumb fast speed. Storm is already ready like.........yesterday😂

Then again, why would he fly superfast into someone who he only has limited knowledge of?😂

About the shields:

The same foolish argument was used for Ironman. All psionics are not the same.

She's gotten through Magneto's shields enough.

His field is electrical, so no, it's not "alien to her"😂 🙄.

What do punches from those guys have to do with Storm?? Do you have any actual proof of any correlation?? No?? Well trash that shit.

Shazzam's lightning being magical= Stronger than Storm's? Again, do you have proof of a correlation??

It has been revelaed that Storm is a direct descendant of the first sorceress. I guess her lightning is EXTRA, stupid WTF strong, so she REALLY shits on Supes.😂

The sun's core gives off millions of degrees of heat. And do you have any proof that the heat aspect is something seperate and apart from what he thrives on and therefore would hurt him if he wasn't so "durable"?? If this was true, then he wouldn't get hurt by any blast at any time except ones>>>>the core of the sun. Ask yourself, has he been phased by blast that are less than the intensity of the Sun's core?? See how your argument falls apart??😂

The shit fell apart in the first sentence.--"He thrives on the sun, yes, but......". There are no "buts". He either does, or he doesn't😂

my god, you really are just stupid