Street Fighter IV

Originally posted by Zack Fair
I know, but if you can use medium DP like it is in Super than it is fine. They want you to Anti-Air with heavy dragon punch. That is why they increased its invincibility and made it a one hit move.

Not harder and not riskier. If you want a free DP that you can cancel you use Medium Punch. What sucks is that you will get a bit less damage with strong dp if you want to throw it out there, but I always used it anyways because it has better invincibility.

They should just give him his cMK back and leave him alone.

You know come to think about it I think Yun isn't really that OP, but that they gave lots of "WTF" nerfs to the cast. If Ryu had his old cMK Yun would be a hell of a lot easier. Sigh. I FKN miss it.

Oni has received a lot of buffs.

Why use fDP as an anti air, when you can use sDP as an anti air and fadc into Ultra or other stuff? Honestly it's makin a choice, do you want a slightly stronger N' faster DP or do you want a slightly slower N' weaker DP that you can fadc with? I'm pickin the latter. It adds extra damage to meterless combos and it's a slightly stronger anti air. What I have to give up for that isn't worth it, imo.

With his cf nerfed, Ryu didn't need a "change" that made him risky in even more situations. He needs more, straight up, buffs.

I always said Yun wasn't that messed up, he was just really easy with alotta crap. Glad he got his just deserts, anyway. I was glad to see Oni get buffed as well, even tho, I don't think enough people actually used him to the best of his abilities. I just wished they could've buffed his overall damage. Make'im more like CVS2 S.Akuma in comparison to normal Akuma.

Originally posted by No End N Site
Why use fDP as an anti air, when you can use sDP as an anti air and fadc into Ultra or other stuff? Honestly it's makin a choice, do you want a slightly stronger N' faster DP or do you want a slightly slower N' weaker DP that you can fadc with? I'm pickin the latter. It adds extra damage to meterless combos and it's a slightly stronger anti air. What I have to give up for that isn't worth it, imo.

With his cf nerfed, Ryu didn't need a "change" that made him risky in even more situations. He needs more, straight up, buffs.

I always said Yun wasn't that messed up, he was just really easy with alotta crap. Glad he got his just deserts, anyway. I was glad to see Oni get buffed as well, even tho, I don't think enough people actually used him to the best of his abilities. I just wished they could've buffed his overall damage. Make'im more like CVS2 S.Akuma in comparison to normal Akuma.

Obviously useful for when you don't have the ultra or meter to cancel. It is fine by me. Heavy punch dp didn't anti-air anyways because it gets stuffed by everything. Maybe this "gimmick" will make me use it.

I never even mained Ryu, honestly. I subbed him in vanilla but after I got my 3Sers, I dropped'im. I just read what the trade of was for the OG style DP and was like, "Wtf, you can do better than that, guys." Like, how'bout makin'im how he use to be?

Agreed. Sucks how they nerfed Ken's sweep. Making it one of the slowest sweeps out there...again >=\

Exactly my point! Like, what the f**k are they doin this shit for? Ken's still better than he was in IV, but Jesus, why nerf his sweep? They did a damn good job at nerfin the people that needed it but f**ked up with *everyone else*...or so it seems. But, who knows, maybe this isn't the end of all that changes and it might work out in the end. I can't play the console versions anyway, so my concern is minimal.

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LOL
GO GO GENEI-JIN!!!!

In other news, there was a huge tournament for Street Fighter's Awkward and Strange Younger Sibling and needless to say, it was awesometastic.

Originally posted by Frisky Dingo

LOL
GO GO GENEI-JIN!!!!

You also forgot the chant, "aye! aye! aye! aye! aye! aye!" after Yun does the Genei-Jin.

Originally posted by Frisky Dingo
In other news, there was a huge tournament for Street Fighter's Awkward and Strange Younger Sibling and needless to say, it was awesometastic.

Pretty f**kin great! A lil discouragin, too. They need to make a DS4, man.

Daigo is suspected to move towards Gouki once the patch is out. I'm calling it now and saying that Daigo's Gouki wont be as great as Tokido's, if he does decide to make the switch. That's just my hunch.

And i'm still a little bothered by what happened to Banana Ken and Chang's team and the Kuwait team at SBO. I've lost all respect for the tourney, now.

Btw, did you hear about the Darkstalkers teaser at the recent Fight Club. They said, you couldn't blink or you'd miss it.

Originally posted by Zack Fair
Agreed. Sucks how they nerfed Ken's sweep. Making it one of the slowest sweeps out there...again >=\

😂 Sounds like they just pull stuff out of a hat, when it comes to making changes. I don't even see why they needed to change that. He should have been left alone. He's really good in AE, for the first time. Maybe they alter characters relative to each other rather than an over all effectivness scenario.

Maybe Ken's sweep lead to him having a 9/10 match up we just didn't know about😆

Originally posted by Frisky Dingo
Daigo is suspected to move towards Gouki once the patch is out. I'm calling it now and saying that Daigo's Gouki wont be as great as Tokido's, if he does decide to make the switch. That's just my hunch.

And i'm still a little bothered by what happened to Banana Ken and Chang's team and the Kuwait team at SBO. I've lost all respect for the tourney, now.

Btw, did you hear about the Darkstalkers teaser at the recent Fight Club. They said, you couldn't blink or you'd miss it.

I just wanna see how the twin and Fei players fair against the rest of the world. A lot of people would be doin a l lot better against'em if their characters hadn't gotten the nerf hammer. Who do you think would in an over all match up, AE Yun or IV Sagat?

Yeah, it sucks what happened to Team USA. But I bet you ma'f**kaz is gonna be breakin their necks to qualify and enter SBO next year. I personally think the tourney isn't even worth people's time if they can just so casually f**k over foreign competitors with no remorse or any real explanation. F**k'em.

Hmmm...nope I didn't hear about the DS tease. News to me. I just ignore Ono and the rest of the circus. With 3S😮E out now, I really have no reason to pay much attention to what they're on right now. None of the up and comin fighters mean shit to me.

Sagat would win unless Yun corners him IMO. Sagat's damage output in Vanilla was devastating, and not even Yun's Genei-Jin can match it. However if Yun corners him I see Sagat having a lot of problem keeping Yun off him and avoiding the mixups. Then again with that uber Tiger Uppercut damage Yun wouldn't be mindlessly rushing the King. I think Yun and Fei will still be top tier, but Yang...hmmm not to sure about that.

Good choice. Ono is a damned troll. lol.

Yeah, Ono's a clown. I don't like that guy anymore, and he's makin me not like Capcom, either. Too lazy to find the in depth tier list, did Sagat have any bad match ups in IV?

Maybe Akuma and Dhalsim, but I'm not too sure about them being true bad mathups. They probably go even against Sagat.

Yeah, never mind. Ma boi tells me that AE Sagat VS Yun is even-bad for Yun. Unless that aint true? I just thought it woulda been a fun fight to see. 2 different power houses at the end of each spectrum.

Rush VS Zone

Ryu

The active frames for crouching medium kick have been adjusted to 5 frames.

Due to this, the overall movement and reach of the attack are the same as they were in SSFIV.

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OH HELL YEAH!

I can only guess who is coming back to Ryu durw00t

I swear Capcom's infatuated with Ryu. And now I'm startin to hate complainin about what they do to characters. Looked stupid at 1st but the changes presented today make it seem like they are actually tryin to undo the AE changes. This is good. I hope to God this update comes to the ARC 'til I get a new console.

I am so goin to the PS3, this time.

Originally posted by Zack Fair
Sagat would win unless Yun corners him IMO. Sagat's damage output in Vanilla was devastating, and not even Yun's Genei-Jin can match it. However if Yun corners him I see Sagat having a lot of problem keeping Yun off him and avoiding the mixups. Then again with that uber Tiger Uppercut damage Yun wouldn't be mindlessly rushing the King. I think Yun and Fei will still be top tier, but Yang...hmmm not to sure about that.

Agreed 100%

Hell, Sagat in AE can successfully zone Yang. Now give Sagat stronger and faster Tiger Shots? And random & well placed TUs? Yang is out matched.

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*Shoryukens like button*

I am liking the 2012. Much much better than that random bs AE originally was. I like the new Ryu and Ken buffs and I can live with the nerfs. Ryu's fierce shoryuken works as good as it did back then in Vanilla as an AA and Ken now hits like a fkn truck. He lost his sweep, but I never got around to use it much in AE so its no big loss for me.

I know this is old but I don't remember ever seeing it posted here so I'm just showing this character named King Cobra, who was planned for the game:

http://www.capcom-unity.com/bigmex/blog/2009/05/05/king_cobra_the_street_fighter_that_almost_was

And if you think recognized the outfit, it's because Ken has it as one of his alts.

Nice. That happens to be my fav. Ken outfit.