Originally posted by the welsh one
what are you basing this on
The fact that I know enough about music, its histories, developments and factual occurances across time. I feel it's a bit more "proper" to know the history of music before you try broadcasting your own, incorrect version.
I already know you base your knowledge of things on what your friends say, as that's exactly what you've told me.
-AC
Originally posted by Bardiel13
Only half right. Like Chavs/Wiggers, Emo culture stems from a genre of music called emotional hardcore (aka emo). Even though many emotional hardcore bands don't dress like closeted trannies and write melodramatic lyrics, the ones that do have instated it as the stereotype.
Chavs aren't really the UK version of wiggers.
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
The emo culture/scene is entirely different to the emo genre of music. The two are not connected in any way. Because you are a part of the fashion scene does not make you a part of the genre and vice versa.And it doesn't mean emotional, it means emotive hardcore punk. Later shortened to emocore (EMOtive hardCORE), then emo.
-AC
I know. Emotional Hardcore and Emotive Hardcore are the same things. I just chose one.
And the fashion and music are somewhat connected. Some emotive hardcore bands started to dress that way and before they knew it others started to adopt that look.
Originally posted by Bardiel13
I know. Emotional Hardcore and Emotive Hardcore are the same things. I just chose one.And the fashion and music are somewhat connected. Some emotive hardcore bands started to dress that way and before they knew it others started to adopt that look.
They're not the same. One is what the music genre is called, one is a similar word you have chosen to attach to it because it begins with the same three letters. It's called emotive hardcore punk, not emotional anything.
Secondly, they are not "connected", they just may appear together. Some bands that make emo music may coincidentally dress in the way of the scene, but the fact that the two are drastically different from one another, and can/do exist entirely by themselves (Emotive hardcore punk having existed since the mid 80s), proves this. Very few true emo bands dress like they are part of the emo scene, because the two are not exclusive to one another.
The emo scene as we know it (With the haircuts and the clothing etc) did not emerge until the late 90s, it is relatively new. By which point, real emo music was all but gone, certainly nowhere near popular consciousness enough to be recognised, much less connected with a popular trend. If it were, we wouldn't have almost every human being on the planet, including you, getting the definition of the word either wrong or mixed up.
-AC
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
They're not the same. One is what the music genre is called, one is a similar word you have chosen to attach to it because it begins with the same three letters. It's called emotive hardcore punk, not emotional anything.
I know I'm not the first one to refer to it as emotional hardcore. From most of the people I've talked to, the two names are interchangeable. You're just the first one to get anal about it. But whatever, I'm sure emotive hardcore's the proper name. Do I care? Not that much.
Originally posted by Bardiel13
I know I'm not the first one to refer to it as emotional hardcore. From most of the people I've talked to, the two names are interchangeable. You're just the first one to get anal about it. But whatever, I'm sure emotive hardcore's the proper name. Do I care? Not that much.
So what? It doesn't matter whether you're the first or last, or what you've heard people call it. The two words are different, one is part of the genre name, and has been since the 80s, one isn't. You used the wrong word, it's just simple.
Funny that people always seem to care less when they're being corrected. If you don't care, fine, just don't go around telling people they're "half right" when you're not right yourself.
-AC