Ryu and Akuma vs Jin Kazama and Kyo Kusanagi

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
1. Second of all, Gear, it has already been proved with interviews from the creators that UDON comics show the canon abilities of both Streetfighter and Darkstalkers

2. http://www.vgmuseum.com/end/arcade/c/sfa3biso.htm

Where does he say he wants to destroy the world now? He wants Shadaloo to be remembered, that does not mean he wants to destroy the world.

3. Gouki killed both Bison and Gill, and Oro is an unknown, they had one non serious fight, both holding back. Oh and btw, what destructive feats does Jinpachi have again? None that begin to rival Gouki's. Gouki sunk an island, destroyed a submarine at the bottom of the ocean, split Ayers Rock, and can also traverse entire landmasses in an instant.

4. Pffftt...threatening existence is not a feat. And if he is so damn strong, why was he punked by NORMAL Jin? Splitting mountains, sinking islands, destroying submarines from the bottom of the ocean, THOSE are feats.

5. Gouki could easily destroy the world if he wanted to. He could destroy entire cities swiftly and would do that from city to city, and no one could stop him. As for Bison, he is constantly seen as a threat to world security, so by your logic he equals Jinpachi, not that I give a flying shit about Bison.

2. Magnificent. He used a statue and a satellite to blow up a city for being the pvssy that he is (and saying you all shall perish now, proves he wants to exterminate mankind, thing is he: 1. wasn't capable since he had to use a plot device and, 2. failed anyway).

3. You want to say the biggest feat mentioned did not require all of his ki, despite just about every source on the net describing the technique used involves Akuma channeling all of his ki, and when was it ever useful in combat? 😬 Akuma only used the technique to sink his island, not to use it on his opponents, of course it would not be effective. Thought it's hilarious to hear from a few SF fanboys who used to post here say Akuma can deal island-destroying blow after island-destroying blow. But wait, people want to say Akuma sunk the island and shifted tectonic plates crylaugh, despite Ryu's ending showing that it was shaking and crumbling. Fabulous. Anyway, I'm sick of giving the reasons I believe Akuma would not defeat Jinpachi. My point was that Devil Jin at his prime has all of Devil Jin's feats and Jinpachi's, and what is seen in the video posted. Nothing was speculated.

4. You don't know how the fight between Jin and Jinpachi went. You just saw the part where Jinpachi was already defeated; Jin was in his normal state then. He could've been Devil Jin during the fight, for all we know. Also Kazama blood = very effective against the Devil Gene.

5. Gouki can destroy the world. Laughable. He has a chance against Kuja now.

One more thing..

How do you conclude he can destroy cities quickly from this? That looks nowhere near the size of a town to be honest 😬. Not to mention destroying cities one by one will take forever to the point that an entire planet would be destroyed.

Logically, Devil Jin at his prime would be able to level such a lumpy region, seeing as he was able to tear a flat area of ground apart rather quickly.

Originally posted by Sado22
1. link not working
2. doesnt change the fact that Capcom rates them all equal in terms of strength. you're missing the point.
3. i've already explained this before: devil powers don't increase when someone changes to their devil form....they just get access to more stuff. Kazuya uses the same powers of devil as does Devil Kazuya its just that with the transformation he gets access to flight AND shooting lazers etc. fact of the matter is Devil Jin is the same as regular Jin when it comes to power since they both have the same source for it. but this is besides the point....the main thing to understand is that YOU don't KNOW how Jin beat Jinpachi. and finally, don't beat around the bush. i asked you can akuma or Bison destroy the world and the answer was NO. they can't. none of their so called "feats" even come remotely close. even noncanonical shattering of the meteor (i saw the whole ending and not only was the asteriod NOT even that large but it was also never shown to be destroyed). so no dice, V2d. no dice at all.
4. proof? all i hear is a whole lots of "could've" and "would've". the closest his feats proof are destroying mountains in his strongest form or destroying Ayres rock. NOT wrecking the world. Not even close.

~Sado

2. When has Capcom rated them all equal? Please tell me when.

3. The ability to fly, use TK, and shoot lasers DOES increase power, and can you prove their other attributes don't increase as well? Oh btw, Jinpachi's best feat is holding up a boulder for a long time, impressive, but that does not mean he can destroy the world either. I actually think Jinpachi could destroy the world, not in one shot, over time.

4. You make it sound like Jinpachi could wreck the world in one shot, when he clearly cannot.

Originally posted by shin_gear
1. Let me check the links to these interviews please.

2. Magnificent. He used a statue and a satellite to blow up a city for being the pvssy that he is (and saying you all shall perish now, proves he wants to exterminate mankind, thing is he: 1. wasn't capable since he had to use a plot device and, 2. failed anyway).

3. You want to say the biggest feat mentioned did not require all of his ki, despite just about every source on the net describing the technique used involves Akuma channeling all of his ki, and when was it ever useful in combat? 😬 Akuma only used the technique to sink his island, not to use it on his opponents, of course it would not be effective. Thought it's hilarious to hear from a few SF fanboys who used to post here say Akuma can deal island-destroying blow after island-destroying blow. But wait, people want to say Akuma sunk the island and shifted tectonic plates crylaugh, despite Ryu's ending showing that it was shaking and crumbling. Fabulous. Anyway, I'm sick of giving the reasons I believe Akuma would not defeat Jinpachi. My point was that Devil Jin at his prime has all of Devil Jin's feats and Jinpachi's, and what is seen in the video posted. Nothing was speculated.

4. You don't know how the fight between Jin and Jinpachi went. You just saw the part where Jinpachi was already defeated; Jin was in his normal state then. He could've been Devil Jin during the fight, for all we know. Also Kazama blood = very effective against the Devil Gene.

5. Gouki can destroy the world. Laughable. He has a chance against Kuja now.

2. You are missing the point, he never once said he wanted to destroy the world. And btw, he was saying "You all shall perish now" to the people in the city.

3. He used it to sink an island, yeah, but one thing yu have to realise is that Gouki just fought with Ryu, a fight which he of course used his ki, and wasn't even Shin Gouki. So saying he used ALL his ki is ridiculous, and I have never read that he used all of it, I would like you to prove that. Oh, and btw, why would Gouki even bother with a technique that was useless in combat? Oh and btw, Jinpachi has barely any actual feats to his name.

4. True, Kazama is very effective against Devil, but there is no proof he went Devil, we saw he was human at the end of the fight, we can only assume he was human for the whole thing.

5. Not in one shot smartass. Neither can Jinpachi btw. Matter of fact, neither can Kuja.

come on people....this is getting retarded.
its fairly obvious that all of us are going in circles with this one. Jinpachi threatened to destroy the world but Dope is right in that he has no FEATS to his name. What i and ShinQueer are trying to say is that with so many people's story involving them trying to stop Jinpachi from destroying the world and Jinpachi's own story being that its a "feat"....in that it is a potential. the same way Ryu being able to dodge bullets is a feat. He's never done it. but he CAN. hence it counts. same with Jinpachi. Dope, you get it now?

I don't see the point of going around with this again and again and again.
besides:
THIS WORLD IS MADE OF LOVE AND PEACE!
LOVE AND PEACE
LOVE AND PEACE
LOVE AND PEACE

~Sado
P.S. who is up for a threesome? 😮

Actually, here are Jinpachi's feats/capabilities:

Feats:

1. Lifted off a giant boulder that was mounted on him for 40 years.

Capabilities/Attributes:

1. Trembled a landscape as a result of going to a next transformation/fly (seen in his ending).

2. Invulnerability to fire.

3. Can drain health/become intangible temporarily.

4. Can stomp the ground and paralyze several opponents.

Those are only things effective in combat.

I'll quote this in the future if I have to.

does that mean you're up for a threesome? 😮

Wtf..............

Originally posted by Sado22
come on people....this is getting retarded.
its fairly obvious that all of us are going in circles with this one. Jinpachi threatened to destroy the world but Dope is right in that he has no FEATS to his name. What i and ShinQueer are trying to say is that with so many people's story involving them trying to stop Jinpachi from destroying the world and Jinpachi's own story being that its a "feat"....in that it is a potential. the same way Ryu being able to dodge bullets is a feat. He's never done it. but he CAN. hence it counts. same with Jinpachi. Dope, you get it now?

I don't see the point of going around with this again and again and again.
besides:
THIS WORLD IS MADE OF LOVE AND PEACE!
LOVE AND PEACE
LOVE AND PEACE
LOVE AND PEACE

~Sado
P.S. who is up for a threesome? 😮

He could with time.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
1. Kay, I'll look for it.

2. You are missing the point, he never once said he wanted to destroy the world. And btw, he was saying "You all shall perish now" to the people in the city.

3. He used it to sink an island, yeah, but one thing yu have to realise is that Gouki just fought with Ryu, a fight which he of course used his ki, and wasn't even Shin Gouki. So saying he used ALL his ki is ridiculous, and I have never read that he used all of it, I would like you to prove that. Oh, and btw, why would Gouki even bother with a technique that was useless in combat? Oh and btw, Jinpachi has barely any actual feats to his name.

4. True, Kazama is very effective against Devil, but there is no proof he went Devil, we saw he was human at the end of the fight, we can only assume he was human for the whole thing.

5. Not in one shot smartass. Neither can Jinpachi btw. Matter of fact, neither can Kuja.

I know you meant not in a moment, but the fact that he destroyed nothing nowhere close to the size of a town in a moment with an attack that took most of his energy does not explain how he can destroy the world easily. 😬

A FOURSOME?!
YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY 💃

😘

Why in gods name would this thread even be made 😬

*cries pathetically in fetal position*

That's Snafu for you..'neway, I've made my point regarding this.

...that you want a foursome? 😮