Originally posted by Soljer
"Actual speed."Distance traveled divided by the time of travel.
Manipulating time IS 'actual speed.'
Not in the sense of our comprehension of time in the real world.
Manipulation of chronal energy to achieve said effects differ from how Wally uses the speed force.
You can debate the semantics about 'speed' all you want, however you know it isn't the same thing as all the Flashes do, which is my point.
Originally posted by Sirius77
True. Realistically, Zoom and Flash can land over a billion IMP's on Darkseid and Thanos before the fist picosecond has fully passed.Imagine if they took a whole TWO SECONDS.
Zoom cannot do an IMP. He only hits hard becuz of his relative speed. Flash Does An IMP becuz he actually pics up mass as he runs. Beside, IT only takes THanos or DS one glancing blow or stray energy blast to end the fight. While it would take at least a few seconds to take them both down.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Zoom cannot do an IMP. He only hits hard becuz of his relative speed. Flash Does An IMP becuz he actually pics up mass as he runs. Beside, IT only takes THanos or DS one glancing blow or stray energy blast to end the fight. While it would take at least a few seconds to take them both down.
I was under the impression that zoom punching flash across the pacific ocean was a infinite mass punch...
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Zoom cannot do an IMP. He only hits hard becuz of his relative speed. Flash Does An IMP becuz he actually pics up mass as he runs. Beside, IT only takes THanos or DS one glancing blow or stray energy blast to end the fight. While it would take at least a few seconds to take them both down.
Zoom still hits VERY VERY hard. Possibly as hard as an IMP.
Also, it still takes about a second for DS and Thanos to think
about firing an energy blast. And time for the energy blast to
actually travel the distance. So, in that timeframe, there is really
no reason why a non-jobbing Flash and Zoom shouldn't be able to
land a good couple million IMP's and Zoom punches in said
timeframe. They're just too fast. Without PIS or an equally fast
character, they're all but unbeatable.
Originally posted by Sirius77
Zoom still hits VERY VERY hard. Possibly as hard as an IMP.Also, it still takes about a second for DS and Thanos to think
about firing an energy blast. And time for the energy blast to
actually travel the distance. So, in that timeframe, there is really
no reason why a non-jobbing Flash and Zoom shouldn't be able to
land a good couple million IMP's and Zoom punches in said
timeframe. They're just too fast. Without PIS or an equally fast
character, they're all but unbeatable.
Nah. Odin's Energy is far superior to Billions of Imps. And he couldn't put Thanos down. Superman' Sun amped is superior to Imps as well. And yet, Both of the grey faces can take those in spades. Besides, THanos and DS aren't dummies. YOu are talking about smarts amplified. They will have a plan to beat these two thru sheer telepathy.
Originally posted by Sirius77
True. Realistically, Zoom and Flash can land over a billion IMP's on Darkseid and Thanos before the fist picosecond has fully passed.Imagine if they took a whole TWO SECONDS.
Prove Flash or Zoom are capable of billions of IMPs in under a picosecond. To me that seems a little excessive, and unlikely.
Originally posted by batdude123
Prove Flash or Zoom are capable of billions of IMPs in under a picosecond. To me that seems a little excessive, and unlikely.
In a picosecond, Flash evacuated a city of possible millions.
Standing still and punching won't be much different. He'll
be strained most likely, but I see no reason why he
couldn't do it.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Nah. Odin's Energy is far superior to Billions of Imps. And he couldn't put Thanos down. Superman' Sun amped is superior to Imps as well. And yet, Both of the grey faces can take those in spades. Besides, THanos and DS aren't dummies. YOu are talking about smarts amplified. They will have a plan to beat these two thru sheer telepathy.
If they have prep, no doubt they'll win, but without, they're not fast enough to react.
Was that before or after they had a multiple page fight?
Originally posted by Sirius77Not really. That's most likely just talk, since Darkseid has never backed this up in his career.
Oh... well then, that's going to be tough for Wally and Zoom.How fast is a picosecond?
However, that's irrelevant, since Zoom has been hit by slow people before, as has Flash.
Wonder Woman comes to mind right away.
Originally posted by Harry Fingerman
Not really. That's most likely just talk, since Darkseid has never backed this up in his career.However, that's irrelevant, since Zoom has been hit by slow people before, as has Flash.
Wonder Woman comes to mind right away.
You have weird conceptions of slow...