Originally posted by quanchi112
Thor wasnt amped in that arc. Thats the difference. Thor annihilated the Surfer and beat his ass with Warlock. He beat him twice in one arc.
Thor was definitely operating at higher power levels than he normally does, in that particular arc. He was able to dominate multiple high level top tiers at the same time. Thor has never operated on levels like that before and has not repeated such a performance since his "madness period". Frankly if thats the thor we will start using as normal thor we might as well bump him up to trans level.
Originally posted by quanchi112Thing is he was 🙂
Thor wasnt amped in that arc. Thats the difference. Thor annihilated the Surfer and beat his ass with Warlock. He beat him twice in one arc.
He had a madness as noted by Odin even if no power ups was mentioned it doesn't take a Guinness to figure he was operating at higher level epically after he got WTF owned with easier opponents since that event.
another note is that SS was holding back according to him
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Originally posted by Sasaraixx
Anyway . . .Team 2. Surfer is the decider. He takes out Supes fairly easily. BB beats Nova. Thor > WW but she might be able to hold on long enough for Surfer to come over after he finishes up with Clark. Cosmic Awareness must be nice 💃
Save for the dancing banana, ^ is a beautiful post.
Originally posted by Red Hulk
I was going to give it to team two, but then I seen Wonder Woman...
😆 😆 I know right. I was thinking the same thing. I don't know everybody is real tough on her so it will be a good fight. Not sure how Tough Nova is. But WW might be the weakest. Again I do not know how strong Nova is though. I think the Silver Surfer might be the deciding factor. It comes down to whether he wins or loses against Thor and Superman. Than I do not know how BB would do against Thor or Superman, I would assume he loses. But Silver Surfer might be tough enough to win it all.
Originally posted by EkinEku
wonder woman almost peaced out supes she can take thor, and surfer is a beast so i give it to team 2, i dont know much about nova but black bolt is almost tough as supes
disagree. Thor and Supes can both take WW. Not saying they trounce her, but they would win in a straight up fight. They are stronger/more durable and Supes is faster. I also don't know about Nova but I think he is pretty tough. Not a push over at least.
Originally posted by ultimatethor
Surfer will likely detect the energy signature of superman and go after him. IF thor engages surfer however, though the match will take longer, Surfer would still take out thor, Superman would take out wonderwoman( after a godd fight), and BB would take out nova. still team 2 wins 2-1.
I agree. The most likely outcome is that Surfer will go after Superman after he detects his energy. Also, assuming Diana knows what Surfer is capable of, she would tell him to go after Clark, knowing what his powers could do to him.
Even if Surfer did go after Thor, team 2 would still get 2 wins and I think WW could keep Clark at bay long enough for a double team. She'd have an easier time with Clark than she would Thor imo. (Read: easier, not easy).
Originally posted by Red HulkThor didnt have warrior madness in that arc. Thats a misconception.
ugh...So, you never answered the question about durability.
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Although, if we're using WM Thor as regular Thor, he was also able to get the upper hand against Maxam and PG Drax... so, that still begs the question of why you think Sentry and Hulk can stand up to him besides it fitting your argument...
Thor wasnt holding back while like any character beefs him up just like Hulk,Sentry,etc.
Drax was a moron and didnt properly tap into the gem. If he had he would have annihilated Thor. He was a walking imbecile.
I think both Hulk and the Sentry are more than Maxam.
What was your question concerning durability?
Originally posted by ultimatethorHe wasnt holding back thats all. He wasnt operating at a higher power level. Just because he was trashing opponents tha doesnt alone count as proof to back up your theory.
Thor was definitely operating at higher power levels than he normally does, in that particular arc. He was able to dominate multiple high level top tiers at the same time. Thor has never operated on levels like that before and has not repeated such a performance since his "madness period". Frankly if thats the thor we will start using as normal thor we might as well bump him up to trans level.
Originally posted by kgkgThere was no amp or poweru puntil he received the power gem. Surfer stated he cant hold back anymore. Get your facts straight. 🙂
Thing is he was 🙂He had a madness as noted by Odin even if no power ups was mentioned it doesn't take a Guinness to figure he was operating at higher level epically after he got WTF owned with easier opponents since that event.
another note is that SS was holding back according to him
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Originally posted by quanchi112he wasn't holding back in later issues as well 🙄 Thor will stop holding back when he nearly beaten to death 🙂 . Like i said he had the Madness and we have never seen this Thor since than
He wasnt holding back thats all. He wasnt operating at a higher power level. Just because he was trashing opponents tha doesnt alone count as proof to back up your theory.There was no amp or poweru puntil he received the power gem.
Surfer stated he cant hold back anymore. Get your facts straight. 🙂
Originally posted by kgkgThat scan seems more of a call-to-arms, prepare yourselves, type of thing, than anything suggesting he was truly holding back.
he wasn't holding back in later issues as well 🙄 Thor will stop holding back when he nearly beaten to death 🙂 . Like i said he had the Madness and we have never seen this Thor since thanApparently he still was until Thor got the powergem 🙂
But whatever floats your boat.
Originally posted by JuntaiI think he was ! the different with Surfer is that he is always holding back. Unless he knows he is fighting someone of cosmic proportion.
That scan seems more of a call-to-arms, prepare yourselves, type of thing, than anything suggesting he was truly holding back.
Even professional fighters are often saying similar quotes, when discussing their upcoming fight "this time I won't hold anything back", do you think they were holding back in their last fight?
http://www.rte.ie/sport/boxing/2008/1118/hattonr_malignaggip.html
Apperently, Hatton was holding back, when Mayweather romped him. Because he won't hold back in this fight!But whatever floats your boat.
Thor is his friend and he was not himself of course he will hold back. Try to kill and trying to contain someone are two different things.
am not saying Surfer would have done better if he had gone all out since. Thor in this arc was more powerful than his usual self.
But if someone who is known for holding back(surfer) says he is holding back fighting a friend who might be causing problem for the universe and says he will no longer hold back. I would believe that.
Saying all that , it did seem surfer tried pretty hard
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Originally posted by kgkgYou have no proof. Thor was out to kill anyone who got in his way and was doing a fine job of tearing through anyone who got in his way...until Thanos that is. 🙂
he wasn't holding back in later issues as well 🙄 Thor will stop holding back when he nearly beaten to death 🙂 . Like i said he had the Madness and we have never seen this Thor since thanApparently he still was until Thor got the powergem 🙂
Should I put up the scan where Surfer announces he isnt holding back anymore against Thor before he got the power gem. Seriously,reread the arc.
Originally posted by kgkgI'll agree with the friend deal, but just because you don't want to destroy them, that doesn't mean you aren't using the neccisary means to put him down to put an end to him or his rampage either.
I think he was ! the different with Surfer is that he is always holding back. Unless he knows he is fighting someone of cosmic proportion.Thor is his friend and he was not himself of course he will hold back. Try to kill and trying to contain someone are two different things.
am not saying Surfer would have done better if he had gone all out since. Thor in this arc was more powerful than his usual self.
But if someone who is known for holding back(surfer) says he is holding back fighting a friend who might be causing problem for the universe and says he will no longer hold back. I would believe that.
Saying all that , it did seem surfer tried pretty hard
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Originally posted by quanchi112Thor is a good guy and your so call scan comes before mine so obviously he was still hold back as the scan i just posted comes after he gets the POWERGEM 🙂
You have no proof. Thor was out to kill anyone who got in his way and was doing a fine job of tearing through anyone who got in his way...until Thanos that is. 🙂Should I put up the scan where Surfer announces he isnt holding back anymore against Thor before he got the power gem. Seriously,reread the arc.
and when have you seen this Thor after the madness was gone never so I suggest you read it (since you keep insisted i do it)🙂 Thor has never operated at this level since the madness.
Originally posted by JuntaiProblem with Thor is he would probably have to kill him to stop him. Surfer did try to put him down and it did not work.
I'll agree with the friend deal, but just because you don't want to destroy them, that doesn't mean you aren't using the neccisary means to put him down to put an end to him or his rampage either.
With this madness his stamina and durability looked pretty high(from his average self)
Originally posted by kgkgNo,he didnt hold back on his own. Later he didnt hold back with the team. He didnt hold back in both instances. You claiming he did is ignoring on panel statements.
Thor is a good guy and your so call scan comes before mine so obviously he was still hold back as the scan i just posted comes after he gets the POWERGEM 🙂and when have you seen this Thor after the madness was gone never so I suggest you read it (since you keep insisted i do it)🙂 Thor has never operated at this level since the madness.
The madness was never stated to increase his powers. He is a hero and was out of his mind and out to kill. Normal Thor doesnt go around trying to butcher his friends. Thats the difference.
Originally posted by kgkgGive me one statement that adds to your theory he was amped. He only received an amp when he got the power gem.
Problem with Thor is he would probably have to kill him to stop him. Surfer did try to put him down and it did not work.With this madness his stamina and durability looked pretty high(from his average self)