Originally posted by quanchi112
Upgraded Surfer beats him 9 out of ten, sport.
No, he doesn't. The only reason Surfer beats Superman more often than not is because he might drain Superman's slar energy from his cells a la Triumph in that JLA issue. I doubt he is going to figure Superman's vulnerability to Kryptonite or Red Sun rads, so in my not so humble opinion, those aren't viable scenarios in a confrontation between the two. Otherwise Superman is going to knock him around just like the Hulk and Thor have. You are dismissed, boy.
Originally posted by Supeprime
No, he doesn't. The only reason Surfer beats Superman more often than not is because he might drain Superman's slar energy from his cells [i]a la[/i[ Triumph in that JLA issue. I doubt he is going to figure Superman's vulnerability to Kryptonite or Red Sun rads, so in my not so humble opinion, those aren't viable scenarios in a confrontation between the two. Otherwise Superman is going to knock him around just like the Hulk and Thor have. You are dismissed, boy.
Originally posted by xJLxKing
Surfer has the power to finds one's weakness. This includes Superman's weakness
Really? Then feel free to explain why he has not sucked the Hulk dry of his Gamma energy every time they have fought, or used this fictional weakness sensing power to discern and take advtantage of the weaknesses of characters like She-Hulk, Iron Man, Abomination, among many others. Just because he said he knew Gladiator's vulnerability does not mean he has the ability to sense smeone's vulnerability. Unless he is some sort of simpleton who has only done it ONCE.
Originally posted by Supeprime
Really? Then feel free to explain why he has not sucked the Hulk dry of his Gamma energy every time they have fought, or used this fictional weakness sensing power to discern and take advtantage of the weaknesses of characters like She-Hulk, Iron Man, Abomination, among many others. Just because he said he knew Gladiator's vulnerability does not mean he has the ability to sense smeone's vulnerability. Unless he is some sort of simpleton who has only done it ONCE.
ummm he has sucked hulk dry of his gamma at least two times.
it's called cosmic awareness
Originally posted by Supeprime
He doesn't even do it a majority of the time. Bringing up this fake "weakness sensing" ability (LoL) that is not used...ever, is nonsensical.
Originally posted by SupeprimeHahahaha. Supeprime too bad you didn't register sooner. The guy easily has planet destroying power and less than that has easily beaten Supes before. The problem with you is that you think Superman can ko the latest Surfer before he completely decimates him. Versatility, durability, and overall power are advantages the Surfer has while Supes is better with his fists.
No, he doesn't. The only reason Surfer beats Superman more often than not is because he might drain Superman's slar energy from his cells a la Triumph in that JLA issue. I doubt he is going to figure Superman's vulnerability to Kryptonite or Red Sun rads, so in my not so humble opinion, those aren't viable scenarios in a confrontation between the two. Otherwise Superman is going to knock him around just like the Hulk and Thor have. You are dismissed, boy.
Oh and there are those weaknesses that he can exploit. Surfer wins.
Originally posted by SupeprimeI figured you only read dc comics from some of your posts on herochat. This proves it.
He doesn't even do it a majority of the time. Bringing up this fake "weakness sensing" ability (LoL) that is not used...ever, is nonsensical.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Hahahaha. Supeprime too bad you didn't register sooner. The guy easily has planet destroying power and less than that has easily beaten Supes before. The problem with you is that you think Superman can ko the latest Surfer before he completely decimates him. Versatility, durability, and overall power are advantages the Surfer has while Supes is better with his fists.Oh and there are those weaknesses that he can exploit. Surfer wins. I figured you only read dc comics from some of your posts on herochat. This proves it.
No it's quite valid. In a majority of his fights the Surfer does not use his versatility in the way you and these other clowns like to say he would at all. Not admitting that fact is either denial, or blatant lying on your part, huggybear.
Originally posted by darthgoober
He does when it's applicable. Gamma draining has been mentioned in virtually all his confrontations with the Hulk that he wasn't wearing a Control disk in, he messed with the internal electrical energies of the Vision, he threw Wonderman's ionic energy out of phase, he drained and the overloaded Firelord, used energies of the Uni-lord against him, plus the whole Gladiator thing. I think it's save to say that Surfer's ability to detect vulnerabilities to energy manipulation is pretty well established...
Riiiiiight. Except he was merged with a Blackbody and used the Blackbody's ability in order to even up things in terms of power against Uni-Lord, LoL. And as far as him capitalizing on the weakness of Firelord, I find it odd that you would chock that up to cosmic awareness and weakness sensing when it is nothing other than familiarity with Firelord. Him being able to mess with Wonderman's and Vision energies, are because he can sense ENERGY, not someones specific weakness. Would you like me to teach you some more, buttercup?
Originally posted by SupeprimeHe is fighting to the best of his ability on here. So, it's fair game. Read the rules, brah.
No it's quite valid. In a majority of his fights the Surfer does not use his versatility in the way you and these other clowns like to say he would at all. Not admitting that fact is either denial, or blatant lying on your part, huggybear.Riiiiiight. Except he was merged with a Blackbody and used the Blackbody's ability in order to even up things in terms of power against Uni-Lord, LoL. And as far as him capitalizing on the weakness of Firelord, I find it odd that you would chock that up to cosmic awareness and weakness sensing when it is nothing other than familiarity with Firelord. Him being able to mess with Wonderman's and Vision energies, are because he can sense ENERGY, not someones specific weakness. Would you like me to teach you some more, buttercup?
Originally posted by SupeprimeIt isn't quite cbr. It lies somewhere in the middle of cbr and herochat. Cbr completely disregards the comics while this place doesn't. Here Prime beats Surfer,but on cbr Surfer annihilates him. That's just an example for you,skippy.
No wonder Herochat says (is) it is superior to this place, then. That's just stupid. I thought that was CBR's rules.*sigh*