Omega Weapon VS Ruby Weapon

Minerva is the incarnation of the lifestream. Omega WEAPON is its "oh ****" button.

Originally posted by Terryc250
i havent found any information that has that statement.. nor have people who've played it remember a statement saying that omega weapon is the living incarnation of the entire lifestream, or even close to a god.

What godly things has Omega Weapon done? Its purpose is to take the lifestream and fly off to another planet, if the Cetra could create a god just like that, why would they have made weapons in the first place to eliminate a threat? Why would they have Omega Weapon evacuate the planet in the first place? If they could create such a powerful being that has the power of the entire lifestream, couldnt THAT just eliminate the threat? From what i know, and some others agree with me, Omega Weapon only had the power to carry all of the lifestream, not have the power of all the lifestream itself, or else Omega Weapon could not have been defeated.

Omega Weapon is formed of almost the entire Lifestream of the planet, and it have her/it's own consciousness, therefore, she/it is the living incarnation of the Lifestream. But Omega use her/it's power only for defense instead of attack.
It was only possible to defeat her, because of Chaos. Stagnant Lifestream/Chaos is basically, Omega's Kryptonite.

And no, Minerva is not the incarnation of the Lifestream. Actually, that don't make any sense, because the Lifestream is composed of millions of souls and consciousness. It's not a single entity. Minerva is the incarnation of the planet.

Ah, and the Cetra didn't create Omega. The planet(Minerva) did.

^ meh, sephiroth wouldve pwned omega, minerva, and the entire planet if he didnt get stopped by cloud lol

Minerva is the planet, and the planet's souls is...ding ding ding, the lifestream. If the planet had no lifestream it would be a dead rock.

The lifestream is not comprised of many seperate concsiousnesses, its called returning to the lifestream because your soul merges into it, its one large flow of spirit energy. Only a very few people have retained themselves in the lifestream.

Omeag weapon is not the embodiment of the lifestream, it is a tool designed to absorb all the lifestream and take it somewhere else.

Originally posted by Terryc250
^ meh, sephiroth wouldve pwned omega, minerva, and the entire planet if he didnt get stopped by cloud lol

Well Sephiroth already punked the lifestream twice

Originally posted by Terryc250
Well Sephiroth already punked the lifestream twice

Fascist, Aerith and Zack asked for the help of all the souls in the Lifestream to destroy Meteor. It did have nothing to do with Minerva, because she is not the Lifestream.
Maybe it makes part of her, or she is part of it, but she is not the thing itself.

She isn't the lifestream itself, but she is its collective consciousness. Omega isn't the lifestream itself nor is it the lifestream's consciousness.

Originally posted by fascistcrusader
She isn't the lifestream itself, but she is its collective consciousness.

That is incorrect, what are you sources?

its said that she is related to the planets conciousness, not the conciousness itself.

Originally posted by Terryc250
its said that she is related to the planets conciousness, not the conciousness itself.

I don't believe that to be entirely accurate either.

After all,

Spoiler:
she is a bad guy.

Originally posted by Remindme
Ruby Weapon is the same size as the Golden Saucer.

As you see, the Golden Saucer goes higher than the clouds, Omega barely reaches them.

And we see Cloud bigger than most towns on the worldmap; congrats. Also we see in a cutscene all the WEAPONs (expect Omega) and all were about the same size. The Sister Ray at Midgar pierced Diamond WEAPON through the chest so by logic Ruby WEAPON would be about the same size of Midgar where as Omega dwarfed Midgar.

Originally posted by fascistcrusader
Minerva is the planet, and the planet's souls is...ding ding ding, the lifestream. If the planet had no lifestream it would be a dead rock.

The lifestream is not comprised of many seperate concsiousnesses, its called returning to the lifestream because your soul merges into it, its one large flow of spirit energy. Only a very few people have retained themselves in the lifestream.

Omeag weapon is not the embodiment of the lifestream, it is a tool designed to absorb all the lifestream and take it somewhere else.

Where are you getting all this information from?

Originally posted by ESB -1138
And we see Cloud bigger than most towns on the worldmap; congrats. Also we see in a cutscene all the WEAPONs (expect Omega) and all were about the same size. The Sister Ray at Midgar pierced Diamond WEAPON through the chest so by logic Ruby WEAPON would be about the same size of Midgar where as Omega dwarfed Midgar.

Meh, details, who needs em?

Damn, you mean i have to think of a way to prove you wrong?

You're mean to me, you know that?

It's obvious fast not all weapons are the same size, take Sapphire for example, he dwarf's Junon, we see to midgar that canon is huge, And he's bigger than the enitre town/city.

Sapphire is safely bigger than Diamond and Omega for that matter.

The true reason why i think Ruby is bigger than Omega is because i remember reading ages ago that in terms of physical size, Emerald and Ruby were the biggest, inculding Sapphire. I'm sure it was an offical source, but i'm having trouble locating it.

However, if i'm wrong...well i'm wrong, but i'm 99% i'm right, so till then, you shall assume Ruby is Golden Saucer sized, seeing as how it's my thread, and you have no evidence suggesting otherwise....unless you do, in which case i'll look forward to seeing it

Well Ruby and Emerald may have been the biggest then but Sapphire was roughly the same size as Junon which is no where near the size of Midgar. Midgar > Junon in size.

See that under Omega? That's Midgar:

Originally posted by ESB -1138
Well Ruby and Emerald may have been the biggest then but Sapphire was roughly the same size as Junon which is no where near the size of Midgar. Midgar > Junon in size.

See that under Omega? That's Midgar:

No, Sapphire is atleast 3 times Junon's size, and is atleast double the length of the canon

The canon is roughly the diameter of Midgar

From that picture you so helpfully posted i can prove the canon is roughly as long as Omega is high

In conclusion, Sapphire dwarf's Omega

Originally posted by Remindme
No, Sapphire is atleast 3 times Junon's size, and is atleast double the length of the canon

The canon is roughly the diameter of Midgar

From that picture you so helpfully posted i can prove the canon is roughly as long as Omega is high

In conclusion, Sapphire dwarf's Omega

No. Sapphire is roughly the same size as Junon:

YouTube video

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Prove it.

Why do you hate me? because i'm lazy and can get away with it?

YouTube video

proven

That's not 3xs Junon's size. In fact he's a little smaller than it. You proved yourself wrong.