Originally posted by Astner
A million exploding suns, that's awefully close to a galaxy busting attack, or at least a major part of a galaxy.
But Superman have survived worse in Silver Age so ...
Originally posted by Creshosk
So is anyone going to point out the sun eater feat from back in 91?Ya know, the little fact that he DID survive "a million exploding suns"?
Or even the meggadon Warhead exploding? you know the galaxy destorying meggadon warhead?
Oh and Reported sarutobi for trolling. *point to poll answers*
Originally posted by vlaaad12345More like the''im a troll and my latest attempts to degrade supermans power has failed"
Im still waiting for the''im a troll and my attempts to hype sentry and degrade supermans power has failed''option.
Somehow I think this is still part of their Goku vs Superman campaign.
Hell they even had one of their recruits from the Narutoforums name himself gokuvssuperman. He was already banned as GPlex for bashing a mod though. but socking isn't a new trick for them.
Originally posted by vlaaad12345I have yet to see them state goku losing to anyone.
Ah yes...they never will stop with the superman vs goku.....they think that goku could take silver age supes and superman prime...its kinda sad.
Pyron, a guy who can be large enough to wear galaxies as rings will be taken out by a planet busting shot from Goku.
They even think Goku could take out LT...
Originally posted by Creshosk
I have yet to see them state goku losing to anyone.Pyron, a guy who can be large enough to wear galaxies as rings will be taken out by a planet busting shot from Goku.
They even think Goku could take out LT...
If you look at the anime and all of it's non-canon movies, Goku would be placed at above skyfather level towards the end. Look at movie 12 for instance (non-canon of course), Janenba sealed off all of the realms and trapped the dimensional rulers inside - the equivilant of sealing off Asgard, Mephisto's realm, Surtur's realm, Dormammu's realm, etc., simultaneously altering the reality of the different realms themselves as if it was child's play, and he was defeated by Gojeta in SSJ1 form.
Then you got the incident where he looks like he's struggling to hold up a building. Wild plot inconsistencies makes it too hard to accurately gauge his power, topped off with his ability to alter his power level (which goes against traditional comic books where heroes are at a set power level and stay there constantly). So because of that, it allows fanboys to say that Goku is capable of beating down interdimensional threats on par with Arch-Enemy, and fighting at hundreds of times the speed of light on Namek, yet somehow manages to have trouble holding up a building.
To compound the problem even further the writer himself stated they fought faster than light, and the English translation and filler episodes changes the story beyond what the writer intended, and you have a character who is just impossible to debate one way or the other. If you combined all of English translated anime episodes and added in the movies as well (which are non-canon to the manga), then Goku appears billions of times more powerful than what was shown in the manga.
This is why the arguments over Goku are neverending and will never have a resolution one way or the other.
Originally posted by Kutulu
If you look at the anime and all of it's non-canon movies, Goku would be placed at above skyfather level towards the end. Look at movie 12 for instance (non-canon of course), Janenba sealed off all of the realms and trapped the dimensional rulers inside - the equivilant of sealing off Asgard, Mephisto's realm, Surtur's realm, Dormammu's realm, etc., simultaneously altering the reality of the different realms themselves as if it was child's play, and he was defeated by Gojeta in SSJ1 form.Then you got the incident where he looks like he's struggling to hold up a building. Wild plot inconsistencies makes it too hard to accurately gauge his power, topped off with his ability to alter his power level (which goes against traditional comic books where heroes are at a set power level and stay there constantly). So because of that, it allows fanboys to say that Goku is capable of beating down interdimensional threats on par with Arch-Enemy, and fighting at hundreds of times the speed of light on Namek, yet somehow manages to have trouble holding up a building.
To compound the problem even further the writer himself stated they fought faster than light, and the English translation and filler episodes changes the story beyond what the writer intended, and you have a character who is just impossible to debate one way or the other. If you combined all of English translated anime episodes and added in the movies as well (which are non-canon to the manga), then Goku appears billions of times more powerful than what was shown in the manga.
This is why the arguments over Goku are neverending and will never have a resolution one way or the other.
And in non-canon Wolverine slew the likes oh hulk, magneto, apocalypse, classic juggernaut... And lost to Maggy neato ... there's a reason we don't use non-canon feats.
Nomal little girl> Marvel Universe 😬
Originally posted by Creshosk
And in non-canon Wolverine slew the likes oh hulk, magneto, apocalypse, classic juggernaut... And lost to Maggy neato ... there's a reason we don't use non-canon feats.Nomal little girl> Marvel Universe 😬
Yeah that's why I felt like ripping my issues of Last Planet Standing and throwing them in the fireplace. Reed Richards inventing a device that caused the Living Tribunal's energies to backfire on him? Silver Surfer and Galactus merging to become a giant Galactus on a surfboard? ARGH 😠
Originally posted by Kutulu
Yeah that's why I felt like ripping my issues of Last Planet Standing and throwing them in the fireplace. Reed Richards inventing a device that caused the Living Tribunal's energies to backfire on him? Silver Surfer and Galactus merging to become a giant Galactus on a surfboard? ARGH 😠
15k Years in a sun doesnt = 1 nova. A nova releases in a single moments time 50k-100k x the energy the sun would release in 1 year. If it s a super nova, its 10 billion times the amount it would increase... Also, in order for a star to explode it either has to be a white dwarf or red giant, ruling out any "yellow stars" which simply collapse on themselves. So the answer is no....
Originally posted by Hannibal-Lector
15k Years in a sun doesnt = 1 nova. A nova releases in a single moments time 50k-100k x the energy the sun would release in 1 year. If it s a super nova, its 10 billion times the amount it would increase... Also, in order for a star to explode it either has to be a white dwarf or red giant, ruling out any "yellow stars" which simply collapse on themselves. So the answer is no....
Originally posted by Creshosk
Superman surviving the destruction of a sun eater at ground zero. The sun eater is an enormously energetic cloud that literally eats both the energy and mass of whole stars. The sun eater was considerably larger than a star, had been in existence for millenia and had consumed the energy of many stars by travelling from galaxy to galaxy.
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How do people say no, to things he's already done?
Simple, they've never read a superman comic, just like the vvendetta troll in the superman section.
The answer is yes, he's done it before.
Originally posted by KutuluExcept that one is canon, to the MC2 Universe.
Yeah that's why I felt like ripping my issues of Last Planet Standing and throwing them in the fireplace. Reed Richards inventing a device that caused the Living Tribunal's energies to backfire on him? Silver Surfer and Galactus merging to become a giant Galactus on a surfboard? ARGH 😠
