Originally posted by llagrok
Moondragon still has telekinesis and is far more skilled
If Moondragon can't TKO her with TP, then she's in a world of trouble. Psylocke's TK is much stronger than Heather's. I don't care about skill. When you are talking about a difference in raw power that huge, skill doesn't mean much. Betsy can just overwhelm her with raw power.
The fact you made this Crimson Dawn Psylocke, and then gave Moon the mind gem on top of it, is just spite 😬
Make it current, and you have yourself a decent fight.
Originally posted by llagrok
I've yet to see Psylocke take out anyone stronger than Sabretooth.
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Originally posted by Rutog98
If Moondragon can't TKO her with TP, then she's in a world of trouble. Psylocke's TK is much stronger than Heather's. I don't care about skill. When you are talking about a difference in raw power that huge, skill doesn't mean much. Betsy can just overwhelm her with raw power.
This isn't current Psylocke. Her TK during the CD period was rather limited, and she lacked the raw power and had even less skill then she possesses now.
Originally posted by Rutog98
If Moondragon can't TKO her with TP, then she's in a world of trouble. Psylocke's TK is much stronger than Heather's. I don't care about skill. When you are talking about a difference in raw power that huge, skill doesn't mean much. Betsy can just overwhelm her with raw power.
Well, Psylocke went up against Dark Jean Grey of Shadow-X and lost ... so her raw power dosent mean much against skilled TK'ers
Originally posted by Gecko4lif
Moondragon got schooled by Chaos mite.Psylocke wins this
A Chaos mite that knocked out the fallen one as well. Chaos mites are incredibly powerful so you obviously have no ****ing idea what you're talking about.
Originally posted by Rutog98
If Moondragon can't TKO her with TP, then she's in a world of trouble. Psylocke's TK is much stronger than Heather's. I don't care about skill. When you are talking about a difference in raw power that huge, skill doesn't mean much. Betsy can just overwhelm her with raw power.
Moondragon CAN KO Psylocke with her TK and you have no proof that crimson dawn Psylocke is more skilled or has more raw power. No proof at all.
Originally posted by Gecko4lif
Bullshit
post the scan of skreet taking out fallen one in 1 hit.
In order to take out the Fallen one in 1 hit, you need to sacrifice several million sentient beings and rechannel their lifeforce. Thanos couldn't even one-shot the fallen one.
The Chaos mite hurt the beyonder and the fallen one.
If you think being knocked out by her is a low feat, then you're just a plain idiot. Both Psylocke and Moondragon have human durability, a hit from Skreet should kill them. Moondragon surviving something that can hurt a herald level being, is a feat in its own right.
Originally posted by HandOfFate
So in the end she did beat him.While she might have lost her telepathy in the end, it would still count as win for Psylocke. You can call this CIS or PIS but it's still a win.🙂
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I finally understand the reason why we never agree on anything. That logic is equavilent to Dr. Strange vs Wolverine. Dr. Strange decides to remove all of his own powers and take some sleeping pills...Wolverine decapitates him...
Response: "eh..still a win for Wolverine. 🙂"
So what point are you trying to make?...he destroyed her astral form, overpowered her and humiliated her. She imprisoned him via a plot device due to his own CIS so therefore how is that relevant to this battle? If she didn't demonstrate much in her Crimson Dawn form?
Originally posted by What If...
The fact you made this Crimson Dawn Psylocke, and then gave Moon the mind gem on top of it, is just spite 😬Make it current, and you have yourself a decent fight.
This isn't current Psylocke. Her TK during the CD period was rather limited, and she lacked the raw power and had even less skill then she possesses now.
Co-signed. Shadow X Jean was doing pretty well against current Psyocke though. But agreed the fight would be much closer if the mind gem was removed and it was current Psylocke.
Originally posted by llagrok
In order to take out the Fallen one in 1 hit, you need to sacrifice several million sentient beings and rechannel their lifeforce. Thanos couldn't even one-shot the fallen one.The Chaos mite hurt the beyonder and the fallen one.
If you think being knocked out by her is a low feat, then you're just a plain idiot. Both Psylocke and Moondragon have human durability, a hit from Skreet should kill them. Moondragon surviving something that can hurt a herald level being, is a feat in its own right.
1. Skreet 1 shotted Moondragon. She couldnt even stand afterwards
2. She didnt hurt the beyonder she was blown back by the beyonders defenses
3. Post the fallen one getting knockout/down or whatever
4. Pcylocke's tk control is so grea she give her self superhuman strength speed and durability
Originally posted by Gecko4lif
1. Skreet 1 shotted Moondragon. She couldnt even stand afterwards
2. She didnt hurt the beyonder she was blown back by the beyonders defenses
3. Post the fallen one getting knockout/down or whatever
4. Pcylocke's tk control is so grea she give her self superhuman strength speed and durability
1. Yes, and it should've killed her. Skreet is indestructible.
2. She pushed the beyonder back, still impressive.
3. No, read the ****ing Thanos serious yourself.
4. She has to focus, and it's not particularly impressive. Moondragon fights using skills, Psylocke is less skilled than Sabretooth.
Originally posted by llagrok
1. Yes, and it should've killed her. Skreet is indestructible.
2. She pushed the beyonder back, still impressive.
3. No, read the ****ing Thanos serious yourself.
4. She has to focus, and it's not particularly impressive. Moondragon fights using skills, Psylocke is less skilled than Sabretooth.
I'm not going to argue your first 3 points due to a lack of knowledge on Moondragon, but your fourth argument is off a bit. If you are talking about Crimson Dawn Psylocke, which I believe you are, she couldn't even manipulate her blows via TK. However, when current Psylocke first used her TK strength, she wasn't even aware she could do it - it was a natural state for her. No focus required.
As for Sabretooth, his victory was PSI (she happened to strike him where he wouldn't be affected by the tk sword?)
Originally posted by ExodusCloak
Co-signed. Shadow X Jean was doing pretty well against current Psyocke though. But agreed the fight would be much closer if the mind gem was removed and it was current Psylocke.
Eh, I really wouldn't call that a fight.
Shadow X Jean just walked in and gave everyone a stroke, not a punch was thrown by Psylocke (IIRC).
Psylocke's presence in Exiles and Excalibur is complete BS and she hasn't really had a single impressive feat (besides the invisibility), much less actually used her tk more than a couple times.
Originally posted by ExodusCloak
So what point are you trying to make?...he destroyed her astral form, overpowered her and humiliated her. She imprisoned him via a plot device due to his own CIS so therefore how is that relevant to this battle? If she didn't demonstrate much in her Crimson Dawn form?
Originally posted by What If...
I'm not going to argue your first 3 points due to a lack of knowledge on Moondragon, but your fourth argument is off a bit. If you are talking about Crimson Dawn Psylocke, which I believe you are, she couldn't even manipulate her blows via TK. However, when current Psylocke first used her TK strength, she wasn't even aware she could do it - it was a natural state for her. No focus required.
I rechecked her fight with Rogue, so apparently she doesn't need to focus in order to slow down her opponents.
