Attention Sinners: Eternal Life vs Eternal Punishment!

The Old Testament is historical because it is presented as such.

Even the flood?

Originally posted by Alliance
Whys?

Because you're already non-Christian. It was just an allusion to the mythological predecessors to Christianity, since he told you to study it. Intended as humor, and probably poorly executed.

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Was I the only person who laughed when reading the title of this thread? 😮

Originally posted by Grand_Moff_Gav
Ghostbusters?

Find the Pope in the pizza......lol

http://snltranscripts.jt.org/79/79aupdate.phtml

Originally posted by Devil King
No, I'm saying they're just as capable of being as wrong or biased.

Joe Blogs? Is that a British thing? In America we say Joe Blow.

British thing. 😛

Originally posted by DigiMark007
Because you're already non-Christian. It was just an allusion to the mythological predecessors to Christianity, since he told you to study it. Intended as humor, and probably poorly executed.

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i asked the chickenlubber guy too, not Allianc.

Originally posted by Zeal Ex Nihilo
The Old Testament is historical because it is presented as such.

Fox News is news because it is presented as news?

Okay, while I believe in Purgatory, I do not believe that all people are going to heaven. While hell (purgatory) may be very long and many people will come to the knowledge of Christ through it, not everyone there will be saved. When the second judgment comes, hell will be cast in the lake of fire with Satan and fire will destroy. Either way, it is finite, but I'm don't see support for EVERYONE getting into heaven.

Also, this is rather unorthodox for a Catholic to be supporting.

Originally posted by debbiejo
Even the flood?

There are some historical relics which mention a Great Flood which are outside of Judaism...so its either the same reused myth or a large flood did happen...

Originally posted by Nellinator
Okay, while I believe in Purgatory, I do not believe that all people are going to heaven. While hell (purgatory) may be very long and many people will come to the knowledge of Christ through it, not everyone there will be saved. When the second judgment comes, hell will be cast in the lake of fire with Satan and fire will destroy. Either way, it is finite, but I'm don't see support for EVERYONE getting into heaven.

Also, this is rather unorthodox for a Catholic to be supporting.

Thats the wikipedia explanation.

Originally posted by Grand_Moff_Gav
As the Catholic Church teaches that Christians must believe in the existence of hell, it has been the standard belief of Catholics that certain people go to hell. However, Catholics are not required to believe that anyone will actually be condemned to hell, a point which Cardinal Murphy O'Connor has reiterated in recent years: It is non-standard, but not heretical, for Catholics to believe that all souls ultimately reach heaven (if necessary after purgatory). From this viewpoint, the suffering described in Biblical passages of those condemned for their sins is interpreted as purgatory.

Thats the wikipedia explanation.

Originally posted by Nellinator
Definitely heterodox. Even the official doctrine leaves room for the possibility of everyone being saved though. It's a nice idea at the very least. I'm not sure how I'll feel if Hitler et al. are there though.

Have you sinned?

Of course. LOL, I see what you're doing. I get it, I always have. Leave my hypocrisy alone please.

Originally posted by Nellinator
Of course. LOL, I see what you're doing. I get it, I always have. Leave my hypocrisy alone please.

LOL. Sin.

"Eis qui sine peccato est uestrum primus in illam lapidem mittat."

Originally posted by Melcórë
LOL. Sin.

"Eis qui sine peccato est uestrum primus in illam lapidem mittat."

At the risk of looking like an idiot...is that the, "He who has not sinned, cast the first stone?"

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Idiocy is bliss.

Yes. More literally translated, it would be: "He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her."

Originally posted by Nellinator
Definitely heterodox. Even the official doctrine leaves room for the possibility of everyone being saved though. It's a nice idea at the very least. I'm not sure how I'll feel if Hitler et al. are there though.

why dont u like the idea that every1 will be saved eventually? and why do u like the idea that people will just be burnt to death and their souls will cease to be? abot hitler, do u really mean NEVER, because i do not think that any man can commit an act so horrible that it wud require eternity to pay back. any finite misery caused should have a finite punishment, {being the most harsh}, because if punishment is eternity, eventually, the person will suffer almost infinitely more than his/her supposed crime, and after all, who can comment on intentions/nurture/situational factors/percpetion in judging others. all we can really judge are actions and basic intentions. hitler wud definately deserve to be saved over time even if u are harshest.

Its not about it sounding nice its about it being clearly written in Scripture!

Originally posted by Melcórë
"Eis qui sine peccato est uestrum primus in illam lapidem mittat."

Dulce et decorum est pro patria mori.