Magneto vs. Henshaw

Originally posted by psycho gundam
damn, that was a fast edit there avlon!

and henshaw being smarter than doom is a can of worms that shouldn't be opened in this thread.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
damn, that was a fast edit there avlon!

and henshaw being smarter than doom is a can of worms that shouldn't be opened in this thread.

The huge scans irritated me.

Anything Marvel vs DC is potentially a huge can of worms.
Technologically Henshaw is far above any science on either Earth.
However, Doom is far craftier than Henshaw.

Originally posted by Avlon

Steel can't even begin to understand Henshaws fusion process that creates the magnetic fields that Henshaw can. Steel obviously knows how Magnestism works (as he speaks with Henshaw) and is one of the top minds of the DCU.

you gotta by joking 🙄

^ Far beyond primitive Earth science, if you want to get technical. It could be above Magneto, it could be below. At the very least, he isn't unfamiliar with it.

Originally posted by Avlon
Technologically Henshaw is far above any usual science on either Earth.

Doom's science should not be lumped in with Earth science. His tech can breach Heaven, blow up entire planets, travel through time, manipulate the Power Cosmic where Thanos/Annihilus' failed, etc.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ Far beyond primitive Earth science, if you want to get technical. It could be above Magneto, it could be below. At the very least, he isn't unfamiliar with it.
Corrected. 😛

Doom's science should not be lumped in with Earth science. His tech can breach Heaven, blow up entire planets, travel through time, manipulate the Power Cosmic where Thanos/Annihilus' failed, etc.

Originally posted by Starscream M
creating a magnetic field beyond the capabilities of primitive earth science somehow puts him on par with Magneto in terms of control of magnetism?

you gotta by joking 🙄

Earth's science is primitive compared to Henshaws knowledge of it.

If Irons was baffled by it...it's pretty high up there.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ Far beyond primitive Earth science, if you want to get technical. It could be above Magneto, it could be below. At the very least, he isn't unfamiliar with it.
Corrected. 😛

Compared to what Henshaw's knowledge, Earth science IS primitive..and that's even if Henshaw only knew Kryptonian tech. He knows far more.

Originally posted by Starscream M
Doom's science should not be lumped in with Earth science. His tech can breach Heaven, blow up entire planets, travel through time, manipulate the Power Cosmic where Thanos/Annihilus' failed, etc.

I agree with this. Steel's worked with similar things and still he was like an infant with a linux terminal in front of him.

However, MAGNETO isn't anywhere near Doom or Henshaw when it comes to his knowledge of the sciences.

Originally posted by Avlon

However, MAGNETO isn't anywhere near Doom or Henshaw when it comes to his knowledge of the sciences.

I don't think knowledge is always power.. despite how popular that cliche is. Anyway, because someone knows alot about tech or science does not give him a auto win. Your saying because that henshaw has considerable knowledge of tech, it would make him resistant to the effects of magnetism on magneto's level? I mean it's a possibility and a bit of a stretch of logic.

But a more prevailing and logical deduction would be that Henshaw is made of metal and has circuitry both of which Magneto can seriously mess up. Henshaw should have a huge vulnerability against Mags.

Knowledge of science to knowledge of magnetism to being resistant to magnetism then being able to resist magnetism at Megneto's level...... Idk thats a long and weak string of logic...

Originally posted by Avlon
The huge scans irritated me.

Anything Marvel vs DC is potentially a huge can of worms.
Technologically Henshaw is far above any science on either Earth.
However, Doom is far craftier than Henshaw.

-_-

Sooo, Henshaw is of higher scientific knowledge than Doom and knows magnetic fields better than the master of magnetism.

You just lost a lot of credibility thar.

Genius-level Intellect: A mastermind, Magneto is a genius within various scientific fields. He is an expert on genetic engineering and mutation, with knowledge far beyond that of contemporary science. He can mutate humans in order to give them superhuman powers, instill genetic mind-control, create adult clones of human beings, and then manipulate the genetic structures of these clones during their development. He has designed magnetically-powered aircraft and spacecraft, complex robots and computers, and magnetically-powered generators and created artificial living beings, space stations said to possess technology even Reed Richards would envy, and machines capable of nullifying mutant powers within a radius of several miles.

Originally posted by Avlon
Earth's science is primitive compared to Henshaws knowledge of it.

If Irons was baffled by it...it's pretty high up there.

and how does this mean Henshaw can even challenge Magneto in the realm of magnetism?

knowledge means nothing without control. Henshaw actually has to build complex machinery to produce magnetic effects that Magneto can unleash with but a thought. Henshaw doesn't hold a candle to magneto in the realm of magnetism, to say otherwise is simply ludicrous.

Originally posted by Lord Feron
I don't think knowledge is always power.. despite how popular that cliche is. Anyway, because someone knows alot about tech or science does not give him a auto win. Your saying because that henshaw has considerable knowledge of tech, it would make him resistant to the effects of magnetism on magneto's level? I mean it's a possibility and a bit of a stretch of logic.

But a more prevailing and logical deduction would be that Henshaw is made of metal and has circuitry both of which Magneto can seriously mess up. Henshaw should have a huge vulnerability against Mags.

Knowledge of science to knowledge of magnetism to being resistant to magnetism then being able to resist magnetism at Megneto's level...... Idk thats a long and weak string of logic...

All Doom did to defeat Mags is reverse the polarity of his armor. Henshaw has complete molecular control of his body.

Henshaw can completely obliterate the Magnetic fields around Mags leaving him defenseless.

And there is also no proof that Henshaw can even be magnetized..especially considering in space..the EM field is far more potent than on Earth...

Originally posted by D_Dude1210
-_-

Sooo, Henshaw is of higher scientific knowledge than Doom and knows magnetic fields better than the master of magnetism.

You just lost a lot of credibility thar.

Considering you don't have any credibility in the 1st place..losing "credibility" from you is hardly going to make me lose sleep at night. Even the simple concept that not all metal is magnetic seems to elude your grasp...and my scans that have shown henshaw to not be able to be disrupted, destroy energy fields, and adapt to his enemy.

Seems like some of you guys have got it twisted as well. My claim isn't that Henshaw is going to fight Magneto by using Magnetic powers (although he could come up with a weapon for that) but having such knowledge would make it easy for him to make a non magnetic body (IF he even is susceptable to that..which has never been shown). Doom did it easily with a simple reversal of his polarity. Henshaw has PLENTY of options to take out Mags.

Originally posted by Avlon
All Doom did to defeat Mags is reverse the polarity of his armor. Henshaw has complete molecular control of his body.

Henshaw can completely obliterate the Magnetic fields around Mags leaving him defenseless.

And there is also no proof that Henshaw can even be magnetized..especially considering in space..the EM field is far more potent than on Earth...

Considering you don't have any credibility in the 1st place..losing "credibility" from you is hardly going to make me lose sleep at night. Even the simple concept that not all metal is magnetic seems to elude your grasp...and my scans that have shown henshaw to not be able to be disrupted, destroy energy fields, and adapt to his enemy.

Seems like some of you guys have got it twisted as well. My claim isn't that Henshaw is going to fight Magneto by using Magnetic powers (although he could come up with a weapon for that) but having such knowledge would make it easy for him to make a non magnetic body (IF he even is susceptable to that..which has never been shown). Doom did it easily with a simple reversal of his polarity. Henshaw has PLENTY of options to take out Mags.

I don't think Henshaw will be able to do what doom did as esily. Doom is a genius when it comes to tech. For example his inventions and his armor has proven to be extremely creative and potent with people like Thanos, SS, Galactus, and the Beyonder. I don't think Henshaw would be able to easily replicate the feat in mid battle with someone like Mags.

I agree that all metal is magnetic. But Magneto has magnetic powers go beyond just magnetizing metal.

As for the sheilds. Henshaw might be able to disrupt them but he also might not. There is no solid evidence to prove that he can dispel Mag's sheilds.

Originally posted by Avlon
Considering you don't have any credibility in the 1st place..losing "credibility" from you is hardly going to make me lose sleep at night. Even the simple concept that not all metal is magnetic seems to elude your grasp...and my scans that have shown henshaw to not be able to be disrupted, destroy energy fields, and adapt to his enemy.

Originally posted by Avlon
Mags is great with his powers, but against someone who actually understands how the EM spectrum works on levels that Mags can't even comprehend...I don't see it as a problem.

Originally posted by Avlon
You're right. Henshaw is smarter than Doom. Not as crafty, but definitely smarter in the sciences. Why would Henshaw need prep time when he can disable the fields around Mags, or change his polarity on the fly ASSUMING that his cybernetic parts are even magnetic or controllable?

This is what I said:

Originally posted by Avlon

-_-

Sooo, Henshaw is of higher scientific knowledge than Doom and knows magnetic fields better than the master of magnetism.

You just lost a lot of credibility thar.

I'm sorry, when exactly did I mention that magneto would win or that he would manipulate Henshaw's armor? I made no claims about anything about the battle. Just pointed out the claims you made.

Defensive aren't we?

Originally posted by Lord Feron
I don't think Henshaw will be able to do what doom did as esily. Doom is a genius when it comes to tech. For example his inventions and his armor has proven to be extremely creative and potent with people like Thanos, SS, Galactus, and the Beyonder. I don't think Henshaw would be able to easily replicate the feat in mid battle with someone like Mags.

I agree that all metal is magnetic. But Magneto has magnetic powers go beyond just magnetizing metal.

As for the sheilds. Henshaw might be able to disrupt them but he also might not. There is no solid evidence to prove that he can dispel Mag's sheilds.

Not all metal or material is magnetic.

Henshaws gone fully Kryptonian on the fly before..and turned a bunch of simple toys into kryptonian skin/bone + weapons.

Reversing polarity shouldn't be an issue IF it's needed.

Originally posted by Avlon
Doom did it easily with a simple reversal of his polarity.

also, Henshaw's critical parts are metal, of the common variety (meaning can be effected by magnetism). He is shown 99% of time to be metal, so we use that form, not the 1% time when he was shown as something else.

Originally posted by Starscream M
really...you sure he didn't prep far in advance and actually built specific mechanisms to deal with Magneto?

also, Henshaw's critical parts are metal, of the common variety (meaning can be effected by magnetism). He is shown 99% of time to be metal, so we use that form, not the 1% time when he was shown as something else.

HENSHAW

Originally posted by Soljer
Cyborg Superman vs. Magneto has been done before - I'm aware, but never with the rings.

Thusly;

Henshaw with his rings versus Magneto?

Henshaw without his rings versus Magneto?

Originally posted by Starscream M
really...you sure he didn't prep far in advance and actually built specific mechanisms to deal with Magneto?

Doom needs to prep since since he wears a suit. Henshaw has complete molecular control over his body.

Originally posted by Starscream M
also, Henshaw's critical parts are metal, of the common variety (meaning can be effected by magnetism). He is shown 99% of time to be metal, so we use that form, not the 1% time when he was shown as something else.

Let's see...Henshaw has been:

A full Superman.
Alpha Centurion.
A professor.
A scientist.

All fully in flesh. He's also matter manipulated on the ad-hoc to create a body. How do you figure he can't change up on the fly?

As for "common parts"..he uses kryptonian tech... there isn't anything common about them. Best to stop commenting on a character if you know absolutely nothing about them.

Originally posted by Avlon
With earth science, Doom has been able to pwn Mags by simply changing the polarity in his own armor...something Henshaw can do with ease since he has complete molecular control over his own body.

My scans also showed how easily he can negate Mags own energy fields...like he did to Superman blue. Blue has tried to directly "disrupt" Henshaw...and that attack failed...and Blue knows ALL about EMP's.

Never did I say that Henshaw wouldn't beat Magneto. All I did was say that Henshaw knowing more about magnetism than Magneto is false. And unless I'm missing something ..

Originally posted by Avlon

...all it says is that Earth's tehnology is unable to create the magnetic sheilds necessary needed to facilitate the fusion. So Henshaw displaying more advanced tech automatically means that his knowledge of magnetism is superior to Magneto's ? The same magneto who uses his powers to create wormholes ? Seriously though, I'm really not buying this.

Anyway, Henshaw ftw.