Kratos v.s. Cenarius

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Atlas was trying to squash Kratos. Kratos held him back. Atlas in Mythology at least holds the sky, and in many sources even space. He is strong enough to do that in GOW2 with a free hand while trying to crush him. Kratos rammed the massive head of the Hydra thru a long pike on a ship, overpowers 20-30 foot Cyclope with ease, ripped out of the Kraken's grip, muscled the Blade of Olympus from ZEUS, and tossed a 200-300 foot Collossus a mile away. He is MUCH stronger than Cenarius. If this is Kratos at the end of GOW2...it is a stomp, nothing less. He has all his godly powers and MORE in a small package.

why do you base so much on strength? how the hell is his strength going to help him against the far faster Cenarius? the guy could move far away from Kratos then blast him over and over until kratos falls, kratos has never showed immunity to magic, and very little ressitence (infact in storyline he never shows much resistence to any magics either from memory)

Atlas wasnt trying, he wasnt even strained, play it, you can see his face and how easily hes pushing without too much trouble at all, not to menstion hes speaking to Kratos while hes doing it, why would he speak to a guy he just wants to crush. Mythology is a moot point, Zues in mythology has done tonnes of things form shapeshifting, all kinds of transformations and kicked Hephastus across the world and all kinds of crazy things, the Zues in GOW and all the Gods have not such feets from shown. Atlas simply holds up the earths mantle, the sky....the sky is atmosphere...how much you think it weighs?

theres no debate Kratos is far stronger than Cenarius, but this will not neccerily help him, i doubt Cenarius is going melee..

Originally posted by Burning thought
why do you base so much on strength? how the hell is his strength going to help him against the far faster Cenarius? the guy could move far away from Kratos then blast him over and over until kratos falls, kratos has never showed immunity to magic, and very little ressitence (infact in storyline he never shows much resistence to any magics either from memory)

Atlas wasnt trying, he wasnt even strained, play it, you can see his face and how easily hes pushing without too much trouble at all, not to menstion hes speaking to Kratos while hes doing it, why would he speak to a guy he just wants to crush. Mythology is a moot point, Zues in mythology has done tonnes of things form shapeshifting, all kinds of transformations and kicked Hephastus across the world and all kinds of crazy things, the Zues in GOW and all the Gods have not such feets from shown. Atlas simply holds up the earths mantle, the sky....the sky is atmosphere...how much you think it weighs?

theres no debate Kratos is far stronger than Cenarius, but this will not neccerily help him, i doubt Cenarius is going melee..

I did play it. Kratos was the one talking, trying to get Atlas to stop and listen to him. Ares thru a steel pike from across the world and hit Kratos with it. That's pretty uber. Zeus ended the Titan War in one blow. Also, how can he hold up the mantle? The mantle is soft, and mostly magma.

Kratos has many options as well. Would be good to know which Kratos this is tho.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Kratos took magical lightning bolts from Zeus, multiply. Kratos could also send magic back at Cenarius with the Golden Fleece.

I did play it. Kratos was the one talking, trying to get Atlas to stop and listen to him. Ares thru a steel pike from across the world and hit Kratos with it. That's pretty uber. Zeus ended the Titan War in one blow. Also, how can he hold up the mantle? The mantle is soft, and mostly magma.

Kratos has many options as well. Would be good to know which Kratos this is tho.

hmm ime curious does he actually get hit by zues at all? i mean to be fair half of the lighnting bolts in the vids miss and the last crackling blasts zues does on him at the end hit the sword before Kratos pretends to give up

Kratos talks as well, but Atlas also speaks, cant remember what he says something like Kratos betrayed the titans and such or deserted them, not sure but he was certainly talking but you can easily see Kratos is straining, Atlas is not barely trying. Also the mantle is not all soft, its partly magma but magma is very viscous and has incredible amounts of metals in it, also we can see what hes holding up, the lithospheres lower crust, so barely the bottom of the surface..not too great a strength feet when you comapre it to holding up the whole world or space itself is it.

i agree Kratos has some options, but not "as" many as cenarius vast array of powers.

Originally posted by Burning thought
hmm ime curious does he actually get hit by zues at all? i mean to be fair half of the lighnting bolts in the vids miss and the last crackling blasts zues does on him at the end hit the sword before Kratos pretends to give up

Kratos talks as well, but Atlas also speaks, cant remember what he says something like Kratos betrayed the titans and such or deserted them, not sure but he was certainly talking but you can easily see Kratos is straining, Atlas is not barely trying. Also the mantle is not all soft, its partly magma but magma is very viscous and has incredible amounts of metals in it, also we can see what hes holding up, the lithospheres lower crust, so barely the bottom of the surface..not too great a strength feet when you comapre it to holding up the whole world or space itself is it.

i agree Kratos has some options, but not "as" many as cenarius vast array of powers.

2. He says sumthin before trying to crush him, yes, then he attempts to squish him.

3. You also forget Kratos has a better war mind than Cenarius.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
1. Are you serious? The only way to dodge those bastards was to fleece them!

2. He says sumthin before trying to crush him, yes, then he attempts to squish him.

3. You also forget Kratos has a better war mind than Cenarius.

1. *shrug* i swear i just rolled, their not that quick, or i didnt let him get one off, or does he go invincible before he does it, cant remeber...

2. he doesnt attempt, at least not with all his strength thats for sure, since he isnt straining, so assuming hes putting a lot of strength into it is folly especially when comparing it as a feet, Kratos has trouble with large concrete blocks and such.

3. hmm, you so sure about that? hes more feroucious for sure, but more tactical? i dont know about that, Cenarius hasnt always been such a seemingly docile creature in the forests, in the books although ive not read them, utriga and things Darth said makes it seem he was right in the thick of the war doing all sorts of things.

Originally posted by Burning thought
1. *shrug* i swear i just rolled, their not that quick, or i didnt let him get one off, or does he go invincible before he does it, cant remeber...

2. he doesnt attempt, at least not with all his strength thats for sure, since he isnt straining, so assuming hes putting a lot of strength into it is folly especially when comparing it as a feet, Kratos has trouble with large concrete blocks and such.

3. hmm, you so sure about that? hes more feroucious for sure, but more tactical? i dont know about that, Cenarius hasnt always been such a seemingly docile creature in the forests, in the books although ive not read them, utriga and things Darth said makes it seem he was right in the thick of the war doing all sorts of things.

2. Your face doesn't have to move at all to try and crush sumthin with all your strength dude. Kratos doesn't have trouble with concrete blocks, only in gameplay to make the game more challenging.

3. He was the general of a Sparten army that won many battles, and this is while having human abilities.