Originally posted by Soljer
Nope. Even on someone that's twice as strong, as durable, or as fast as me, an effective blood choke is exceedingly easy to pull off.Meaning, Diana could be half as strong or as durable as Supergirl, and still, very easily, apply an effective hold.
Now then why would sg not being able to pull Diana's arm off of her Neck with BOTH arms? And are we not accounting SG's uber durability showings? WW is at least stronger than everything that has been thrown at SG and NOt been able to pwn her. Nuff said. You can spin it anyway you like. WW is by far stronger than SG. Please exit the building stage left.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
WW is by far stronger than SG. Please exit the building stage left.
You repeating yourself doesn't make it true.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Now then why would sg not being able to pull Diana's arm off of her Neck with BOTH arms?
Leverage. Something any grappler is very well aware of.
Originally posted by Soljer
You repeating yourself doesn't make it true.Leverage. Something any grappler is very well aware of.
Yes, On human beings who dont' have invulnerablity. Please stop now. you have failed. you haven't done anything but show me you try and gain pleasure from arguing against me. maybe you are trying to get a rise out of me. LMAO. I'm sure every feat can be dissected and tried to be invalidated. If you are lame enough to go for that. WW is stronger than SG. proven when she held her with NO AND I REPEAT NO strain or resistance on SG's part. Now go away.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
She was shown no where taking any deep breaths. Anyway. Your sad attempt is hilliarious.
Take a normal breath. Say three words. Still got air in there, doncha?
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
WW is stronger than SG. proven when she held her with NO AND I REPEAT NO strain or resistance on SG's part. Now go away.
Wonder woman proved she was stronger when she held Supergirl with no resistance on Supergirl's part? 🤨?!
I could hold the Hulk if he didn't resist.
Originally posted by Soljer
Take a normal breath. Say three words. Still got air in there, doncha?Wonder woman proved she was stronger when she held Supergirl with no resistance on Supergirl's part? 🤨?!
I could hold the Hulk if he didn't resist.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirlDoesn't mean she can breath in space. It also doesn't mean she's actually breathing either.
Becuz she's talking to him. Meaning she isn't holding her breath. You sir have been pwned.
Also, wasn't that the same comic MM couldn't handle being choked... in space? MM has talked in space before... 🙄
Originally posted by Bransolute
Doesn't mean she can breath in space. It also doesn't mean she's actually breathing either.Also, wasn't that the same comic MM couldn't handle being choked... in space?
Um it's already been established in JLA number 4 that martians couldn't breathe in space but rather held thier breath.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
SG had her hands on WWs pulling. To which she was ineffective. She said help me. Whatever you were trying to prove didn't do much. There was a point wasn't there? Since you did butt in on me and someone elses exchange. Where you trying to pursuade me that SG is stronger than WW? Exactly what was it that you were trying to do that you so miserably failed in doing? 🙄
I never once indicated who I believed was stronger between Supergirl and Wonder Woman.
What I DID do, was show your painful ignorance on the topics of martial arts and leverage. Holding Supergirl in a choke was both a strength and a skill feat. However, it just means that she's skilled enough to apply a choke, and strong enough to keep it in. Doesn't mean she's stronger than Supergirl. Your logic is faulty.
Originally posted by Soljer
I never once indicated who I believed was stronger between Supergirl and Wonder Woman.What I DID do, was show your painful ignorance on the topics of martial arts and leverage. Holding Supergirl in a choke was both a strength and a skill feat. However, it just means that she's skilled enough to apply a choke, and strong enough to keep it in. Doesn't mean she's stronger than Supergirl. Your logic is faulty.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
If you say so. But since SG's invulnerability has already been shown to be quite legendary already, It would require a great amount of strenght to get around that with only a one handed choke hold. Now that in itself is a feat. But since SG also has her hands pulling down on WW's arm, that would also add to the strength feat. Which has nothing to do with skill. Unless somehow one needs skill to resist a two armed pull from the mighty SG. My logic is just fine. next time ask and I'll explain it to you since you couldn't piece it together on your own. I actually think the skill comes in at being able to get to SG so fast before her or superman could react.
A blood choke takes extremely little effort, and extremely little strength. All that vaunted durability as far as taking a supernova to the face does not mean dick when it comes to having your arteries or veins closed. As far as 'pulling down on the arm' goes...again, leverage. Quite simple. Not a shred of evidence that Wonder Woman's stronger.
Originally posted by Soljer
A blood choke takes extremely little effort, and extremely little strength. All that vaunted durability as far as taking a supernova to the face does not mean dick when it comes to having your arteries or veins closed. As far as 'pulling down on the arm' goes...again, leverage. Quite simple. Not a shred of evidence that Wonder Woman's stronger.
Then I don't see any evidence that Superman is stronger than WW either since they never arm wrestled. Get that BS outta here. If someone puts one arm around my neck, they would have to be severly stronger than me to stand there immoble, and completely pwn me. They would have to be soooo strong in thier one arm and hand to be able to resist my struggling, my wieght ect. Trust me, I know better. And I'm not falling for what you are serving.
Originally posted by Sirius77
These feats are pretty much alredy on there, the characters just have different names and there are more and bigger feats.
What Superman feat outdoes the fight with Photon, in which they destroyed multiple planets, and both were holding back?
What Superman feat destroys the ease of which he broke Terrax's hand, and snapped his blade?
What Superman feat eclispes his containing the power of a cosmic cube?
What Superman feat outdoes his going toe to toe with the collective, who had the powers of nearly the entire mutant population of Earth?
If these feats are there, post them, please.
Sentry could mollywhop the Surfer, Thor and BRB at the same time, speedblitzing and all, and the staunchest of Sentry haters would merely come in and call jobbery, and it doesn't count.
He's on the level.
You just flat out refuse to admit it, due to some illogical loyalty.
Sentry would go toe to toe with Superman, and imo, would stalemate him, while others feel he could flatout beat him.
Either can be supported.
Originally posted by UniOmni
What Superman feat outdoes the fight with Photon, in which they destroyed multiple planets, and both were holding back?What Superman feat destroys the ease of which he broke Terrax's hand, and snapped his blade?
What Superman feat eclispes his containing the power of a cosmic cube?
What Superman feat outdoes his going toe to toe with the collective, who had the powers of nearly the entire mutant population of Earth?
If these feats are there, post them, please.
Sentry could mollywhop the Surfer, Thor and BRB at the same time, speedblitzing and all, and the staunchest of Sentry haters would merely come in and call jobbery, and it doesn't count.
He's on the level.
You just flat out refuse to admit it, due to some illogical loyalty.
Sentry would go toe to toe with Superman, and imo, would stalemate him, while others feel he could flatout beat him.
Either can be supported.
I'm not even a Superman fan. But I know that he has a feat to match everyone you named and then some. Superman has broken a magical ax before. He's taken a smack from the AM. He's absorbed the anti sunlight from the mageddon. And I certainly dont' think Sentry could beat Thor, BRB, and surfer at the same time. Now that is just crazy.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I'm not even a Superman fan. But I know that he has a feat to match everyone you named and then some. Superman has broken a magical ax before. He's taken a smack from the AM. He's absorbed the anti sunlight from the mageddon. And I certainly dont' think Sentry could beat Thor, BRB, and surfer at the same time. Now that is just crazy.
Then name them.
He never broke a magical axe to my knowledge.
He heated one enough to burn the Viking, who then claims never in the fires of hades/hell/tartarus/some hot place.
His PC self might have taken a smack from the AM, but his memories and powers from that incarnation haven't returned, so i don't buy it yet.
To the speedblitz of Surfer, Thor, BRB..........
I personally don't feel he can do it either.
But if he were to be shown doing it, it'd be sour, but it applies.
He's supposedly been above the top tier from conception. That'd just be definite proof of it.
And i don't hate Superman.
I enjoy too many of his books to hate the character.
I dislike KMC Superman, but not as much as i dislike SHC Superman.
I don't understand how it makes me less of a Superman fan to think he might be able to be stalemated or lose to another Superman clone.
Just because he's superman, doesn't mean he can't lose.