Sodam Yat vs Sentry

Started by WhiteWitchKing5 pages

in other words, a daxamite GL can fight longer than a human GL with equal skill because once they both deplete their ring's power

1] Doesn't matter if he downs his opponent before his power runs out
2] Isn't that what the Latern is for?....

Originally posted by Bransolute
Someone used it in a tourney once.

I believe it was the one where Leo/Khan won it.

That is the point isn't it. Why would a lantern give himself Kryptonian DNA UNLESS there was some distinc advantage that that gave him IN ADDITION TO being a lantern.

Originally posted by Bransolute
Someone used it in a tourney once.

I believe it was the one where Leo/Khan won it.



TheKahn wrote on Aug 13th, 2006 12:21 AM:

(2) At the start of the fight Hal converts his DNA into that of a Kryptonian (I should point out that he would already have multiple rings at this point as well) something he can easily do. Hal has scanned and manipulated Superman's body several times before.

Here he turns Superman (and other JLA members) into pure energy and later changes them back:
http://img19.photobucket.com/albums/v58/Desaad/Hal%20Jordan/Hal%20Jordan2/JLA042_20.jpg

Here he uses his ring to bring Superman's (and other's) body back together after Dr. Light created a machine to separate them:
http://img19.photobucket.com/albums/v58/Desaad/Hal%20Jordan/Hal%20Jordan2/Justice_League_of_America_149-28.jpg
http://img19.photobucket.com/albums/v58/Desaad/Hal%20Jordan/Hal%20Jordan2/Justice_League_of_America_149-29.jpg
http://img19.photobucket.com/albums/v58/Desaad/Hal%20Jordan/Hal%20Jordan2/Justice_League_of_America_149-30.jpg

And here he scans Superman's body discovering that he is a Kryptonian and his origin before Superman even knew.
http://img401.imageshack.us/my.php?image=supermanmanofsteelannual04year.jpg

Besides, making a slight change to his DNA isn't that hard for Hal as he has turned his entire body into a robot before: 😎

http://img19.photobucket.com/albums/v58/Desaad/Hal%20Jordan/Hal%20Jordan2/7848ee1e.jpg


That was his justification, and as I suspected, he didn't provide any evidence that Hal's actually done it in the past.

I know he's made himself into a robot. I know that another green lantern very recently shifted himself into antimatter and back to positive matter.

However....changed himself into a Kryptonian? I don't remember him ever doing that.

Originally posted by Soljer
That was his justification, and as I suspected, he didn't provide any evidence that Hal's actually done it in the past.

I know he's made himself into a robot. I know that another green lantern very recently shifted himself into antimatter and back to positive matter.

However....changed himself into a Kryptonian? I don't remember him ever doing that.

Kyle was the one who did it. If I remember correctly. He made a daxamite with a GL ring as well. or something like that. It's almost as if Kyle created Sodom Yat.

Originally posted by Soljer
That was his justification, and as I suspected, he didn't provide any evidence that Hal's actually done it in the past.

I know he's made himself into a robot. I know that another green lantern very recently shifted himself into antimatter and back to positive matter.

However....changed himself into a Kryptonian? I don't remember him ever doing that.


Ah...in that case I guess I remembered wrong 😆 .

Originally posted by Soljer
That was his justification, and as I suspected, he didn't provide any evidence that Hal's actually done it in the past.

I know he's made himself into a robot. I know that another green lantern very recently shifted himself into antimatter and back to positive matter.

However....changed himself into a Kryptonian? I don't remember him ever doing that.

You think I read all the scans?

I just read some of the battle... basically the first sentence...

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Kyle was the one who did it. If I remember correctly. He made a daxamite with a GL ring as well. or something like that. It's almost as if Kyle created Sodom Yat.

Kyle created a daxamite green lantern when he created oblivion. Not exactly 'run of the mill' lantern power, there.

Originally posted by Soljer
Kyle created a daxamite green lantern when he created oblivion. Not exactly 'run of the mill' lantern power, there.

The name of the daxamite lantern he created was guess what? Wasn't it Sodom Yat? And I remember Kyle giving himself superman like powers or something like that. Hal Also gave batman superman like powers in the nail. I know it's an elseworlds. But meh.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
That is the point isn't it. Why would a lantern give himself Kryptonian DNA UNLESS there was some distinc advantage that that gave him IN ADDITION TO being a lantern.
Because they wouldn't be fighting another lantern.

It would only make them harder to KO really... plus, if Hal would have actually done this... Hal likes to punch.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
The name of the daxamite lantern he created was guess what? Wasn't it Sodom Yat? And I remember Kyle giving himself superman like powers or something like that. Hal Also gave batman superman like powers in the nail. I know it's an elseworlds. But meh.

Hell no he didn't create Sodam Yat in circle of fire.

Are you stoned? The Daxamite he created was named Pel Tavin.

I also don't recall Kyle ever giving himself Superman-like powers. I know he gave himself telekinesis once. Hardly comparable, though.

Dunno about the Nail.

Originally posted by Soljer
Hell no he didn't create Sodam Yat in circle of fire.

Are you stoned? The Daxamite he created was named Pel Tavin.

I also don't recall Kyle ever giving himself Superman-like powers. I know he gave himself telekinesis once. Hardly comparable, though.

Dunno about the Nail.

Ok my fault. I do know that Kyle thought that a Daxamite with a GL ring was uber. It makes sense. Imagine superman with a GL ring? OMG. fearsome being. Just look at hank henshaw.

Other powers do stack with the rings.

And it was at the end of the nail, jimmy olsen had krptonian DNA and was pwning everyone. batman needed power and hal amped batman to superman lvls to fight jimmy before hal blacked out due to a broken arm or something and batman lost his amp. Then the omish superman came. I think that is how it went. been some years. It's with in GL's power to amp themselves or others.

Do I believe that a lantern is capable? Certainly.

Has it ever been done?

Not to my knowledge. 🙂.

However, if someone can prove me wrong, I'd be delighted. I'm a huge lantern fan, and I'd love to see that feat.

Originally posted by Soljer
Do I believe that a lantern is capable? Certainly.

Has it ever been done?

Not to my knowledge. 🙂.

However, if someone can prove me wrong, I'd be delighted. I'm a huge lantern fan, and I'd love to see that feat.

I have almost all of kyle's books somewhere. I am going to study them when I go to my dad's house. I know that a GL has amped themselves genetically or someone else. And Hal did amp batman to Kryptonian LvLs in the Nail. Until he blacked out. So far all Gl's have had the same abilities in all DC universes except that lantern chick.

Originally posted by Master-Borg
I get that

ok, let me use this analogy

assume the mastery of a Ring is power level = 1,000,000,000

assume normal human power = 1

assume a daxamite power = 1000

so a human with ring mastery = 1,000,000,001

whereas a daxamite with ring mastery = 1,000,001,000

in other words, a daxamite GL can fight longer than a human GL with equal skill because once they both deplete their ring's power, the daxamite has his superman physique to fall back on and is able to continue the battle while the human will be killed instantly

You have the worst analogy's. 😆

He was injured by Ranx exploding.

A million stars exploding is 1,000,000,000,000,000 times greater than that.

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Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I have almost all of kyle's books somewhere. I am going to study them when I go to my dad's house. I know that a GL has amped themselves genetically or someone else. And Hal did amp batman to Kryptonian LvLs in the Nail. Until he blacked out. So far all Gl's have had the same abilities in all DC universes except that lantern chick.

Fair enough. Like I said, I'd love to be proven wrong on this one. But, I've never seen a canon source where a Lantern has done what we're claiming here.

Originally posted by Master-Borg
I get that

ok, let me use this analogy

assume the mastery of a Ring is power level = 1,000,000,000

assume normal human power = 1

assume a daxamite power = 1000

so a human with ring mastery = 1,000,000,001

whereas a daxamite with ring mastery = 1,000,001,000

in other words, a daxamite GL can fight longer than a human GL with equal skill because once they both deplete their ring's power, the daxamite has his superman physique to fall back on and is able to continue the battle while the human will be killed instantly


You're not getting it though. This isn't Dragonball Z. Once they run out of energy you're not even talking about them being GL's anymore. You're just arguing that a Daxamite is more powerful than a Human.

Originally posted by Soljer
Do I believe that a lantern is capable? Certainly.

Has it ever been done?

Not to my knowledge. 🙂.

However, if someone can prove me wrong, I'd be delighted. I'm a huge lantern fan, and I'd love to see that feat.


It hasn't been done. Leo/Kahn I think used 2 other feats and extrapolated that Hal could turn himself into a Kryptonian.

One of them was where Hal scanned Superman and discovered he was Kryptonian and another where Hal transmuted Superman to energy to show that he could manipulate Kryptonian DNA.

Originally posted by Validus
It hasn't been done. Leo/Kahn I think used 2 other feats and extrapolated that Hal could turn himself into a Kryptonian.

One of them was where Hal scanned Superman and discovered he was Kryptonian and another where Hal transmuted Superman to energy to show that he could manipulate Kryptonian DNA.

I know. I posted those scans earlier.