Ok here's the mutant combo I was thinking of...
Namor
Storm
Northstar
Think about it, among Marvel's heroes Namor's ranks somewhere in the top 10(maybe even top 5) in the strength department. Multiply that by 100 and you'd have someone who's strength would be utterly unreal. And unless I'm mistaken, Storm's shown the ability to amp her strength with electrical energy so it'd actually be Namor strength x100 + Storm's amping x100. However since Namor's power also allow him to store HUGE quantities of electrical energy within his body, the combination of his and Storms powers means that he's actually be able to amp his strength even further because he's also have Namor's electrical storage x100 to work with as well. The guys strength would be transcendent level easy. Namor's speed x100 + Northstar's powers x100 means that he'll be right on par with the best of the high end heralds as far as combat speed goes. And since Northstar can knock around guys like the Hulk with his superspeed punches, so with THAT ability x100 added to his already incredible strength level he'll even be able to one shot guys like Thor and Supes. Northstar's powers over light and kinetic energy muliplied by a hundred add a whole new realm of control to Storms elemental mastery, which is now 100 times stronger as well. And as much as we all like to laugh at the concept of "lightning in the brain", that effect x100 means that telepaths won't be to much of a hassle either. 😄
Originally posted by darthgoober
Ok here's the mutant combo I was thinking of...Namor
Storm
NorthstarThink about it, among Marvel's heroes Namor's ranks somewhere in the top 10(maybe even top 5) in the strength department. Multiply that by 100 and you'd have someone who's strength would be utterly unreal. And unless I'm mistaken, Storm's shown the ability to amp her strength with electrical energy so it'd actually be Namor strength x100 + Storm's amping x100. However since Namor's power also allow him to store HUGE quantities of electrical energy within his body, the combination of his and Storms powers means that he's actually be able to amp his strength even further because he's also have Namor's electrical storage x100 to work with as well. The guys strength would be transcendent level easy. Namor's speed x100 + Northstar's powers x100 means that he'll be right on par with the best of the high end heralds as far as combat speed goes. And since Northstar can knock around guys like the Hulk with his superspeed punches, so with THAT ability x100 added to his already incredible strength level he'll even be able to one shot guys like Thor and Supes. Northstar's powers over light and kinetic energy muliplied by a hundred add a whole new realm of control to Storms elemental mastery, which is now 100 times stronger as well. And as much as we all like to laugh at the concept of "lightning in the brain", that effect x100 means that telepaths won't be to much of a hassle either. 😄
In all honesty though, that's probably the best three to have as far as this is concerned.
Originally posted by darthgoober
Ok here's the mutant combo I was thinking of...Namor
Storm
NorthstarThink about it, among Marvel's heroes Namor's ranks somewhere in the top 10(maybe even top 5) in the strength department. Multiply that by 100 and you'd have someone who's strength would be utterly unreal. And unless I'm mistaken, Storm's shown the ability to amp her strength with electrical energy so it'd actually be Namor strength x100 + Storm's amping x100. However since Namor's power also allow him to store HUGE quantities of electrical energy within his body, the combination of his and Storms powers means that he's actually be able to amp his strength even further because he's also have Namor's electrical storage x100 to work with as well. The guys strength would be transcendent level easy. Namor's speed x100 + Northstar's powers x100 means that he'll be right on par with the best of the high end heralds as far as combat speed goes. And since Northstar can knock around guys like the Hulk with his superspeed punches, so with THAT ability x100 added to his already incredible strength level he'll even be able to one shot guys like Thor and Supes. Northstar's powers over light and kinetic energy muliplied by a hundred add a whole new realm of control to Storms elemental mastery, which is now 100 times stronger as well. And as much as we all like to laugh at the concept of "lightning in the brain", that effect x100 means that telepaths won't be to much of a hassle either. 😄
It is arguable wether Namor, in water, is even class 100. If he is then he is very low class 100 (maybe 150tons tops). It is listed everywhere that he is under class 100 in water (even in official bios). Namor is also nowhere near the top 100 in marvel in strength. This is common sense. That was a wild statement from you there. Now guys like superman can lift anywhere from billions of tons to quintillions of tons. Namor needs much much more amping to even come close to Superman levels. Northstar is fast but with 100x more speed might be now comparable to Superman. But since Superman is both strong and fast then I guess this amplifies his punches too. So Supes would still hit harder because he is stronger.
And I don't think electrical energy makes Namor stronger physically (needs proof). And storm can't amp her strength with electrical energy. You must be mistaking her for Magneto and magnetic energy.
Now almost anyone in marvel can knock around any other in marvel, provided that they are strong enough to lift the other. That is why Spider-man (used to be class 15) can duke it out with and knock around class 75's. He can even knock the sh&T out of them sometimes. Samson and Iron Man even knocked an angry Hulk out (sucker punch) with only class 50-75 strength for samson and class 90 strength for Iron Man. Thus it is feasible that Namor can knock around a class 100 (and maybe even ko them sometimes). Hell, if I was pretty fast like Namor or Spiderman and had good fighting ability and reflexes and at least 2 ton strength then I could knock around any class 100 who weighed less than a ton. Thus making my strength in comics look comparable to theirs. But its not. They are much stronger than me. So it's fallacious to assume that if someone can knock someone who is class 100 around then they are just as strong as them (or even close).
1. Jean Grey x100 (telepathy, invisibility, and shields and telekinesis)
2. Reed Richards x100 (intelligence! to grant other powers, time travel, and teleport instantly anywhere)
3. Kitty Pride x100 (intangible to all now)
still would own them and all others under IM level.
Originally posted by Soljer
and thus, your opinion is rendered void.
Nah.
Most here know I speak the truth (mostly facts). There are no opinions there (I hardly even say opinions).
I've seen many Namor scans (especially in his respect thread). Some of them clearly shows that he is able to lift over 100tons but not too much more than that. I always either considered that writers in the super past (where Namor exceeded 100tons) didn't know how much stuff weighed or that the scans can be rendered as PIS. Trust me, every handbook that has ever been written says that Namor isn't even class 100. Captain America, Batman, and Wolverine have all feats higher than their class.
Should we say that since spiderman braced a multistory building that he is class 100? Should we say that since Spiderman knocked out class 75 guys that he is at least class 75? Should we say that since Captain America knocked around Hulk then he is at least class 90? Hell no. For all characters have feats that is higher than what the actual writers list them for.
And if you or anyone else think that Namor is in the top 10 in strength in marvel then not only your opinions but your supposedly said facts too are rendered void. How's them apples?
There's a difference between knocking out someone that's stronger than you and actually lifting more than they're capable of...
http://herochat.com/forum/index.php/topic,144124.0.html
There you go.
The apples are great.
1. Thane Ector ( Marvel needs to bring him back)
2. Gambit
3. Vance Astro
My guy would be a beast. He would has monstrous strength, matter manipulation which would come from Thane Ector x 100. He could charge up huge chunks of earth and hurl them, possibly causing world wide damage (Gambit) mixed with natural agility. He would be able to telekintically lift objects with his mind like Vance, but if you multiplied that by a factor of 100, he would be able to hurl boulders the size of shopping malls at his foes with ease. He would also be able to encase himself in an nearly inpenetrable tk field to deflect attacks.
Originally posted by llagrok
There's a difference between knocking out someone that's stronger than you and actually lifting more than they're capable of...http://herochat.com/forum/index.php/topic,144124.0.html
There you go.
The apples are great.
What's with the insults when I never addressed or quoted you though?
I don't use ancient comics as evidence since writers were writing crap like Hulk busting a planet bigger than Earth in one punch. There is so much a difference in today's power levels than in ancient days that one cannot say that so and so has the same exact power level as they did in the ancient days. The Thing wasn't even as strong as he is now.
Also, if one just go on feats and not writers opinions (and ancient ones at that) then Spiderman is class 100, wolverine is at least class 10, captain america is at least class 10, etc. We don't want to open pandora's box now do we?
Trust me, most writers in the past don't even know how much stuff weighed when they wrote. Otherwise, why would Spiderman and others lift and do feats higher much higher than their class. Either that or the writers was just writing intentional crap.
And many of the scans (even in the respect thread) don't work.
Some of them can be argued that it wasn't a lifting feat at all.
And you of all people can name at least 10 people in Marvel that are easily stronger than Namor thus rendering that top 5 or 10 stuff utter crap. Can you?
I am glad you like the apples though, even though they were not meant for you.
Mr Sinister
Nightcrawler
Abomination
With those three together, the outcome would have to be at least a Doomsday level being.
With 100x the cellular control of Mr Sinister, people would be damn hard pressed to find anything outside reality warpers that could serious damage him. Not mention Abomination's strength amping abilities would feasibly multiply by 100 as well, letting him keep up in a strength battle indefinitely.
Nightcrawler's teleporting abilities multiplied by 100 would allow him to possibly keep up in a battle where he was completely outclassed by speed. Nightcrawler has been shown to teleport as fast as he can punch, so it's not too horrible of a stretch to presume that ability multiplied by 100 would could lead to a potentially insane "teleblitz."
The h2h game, the amalgam would be several steps ahead of pure sluggers. With both Mr Sinisters telepathy, shapeshifting, and paralyzing "psi-touch," Nightcrawler's AoA ability to teleport off body parts, and Nightcrawlers already near-Spiderman agility and reflexes, this amalgam would be more than able to tackle any non-flash/speedblitz type characters in a h2h fight.
Outside of h2h, we have Sinisters psychic, telekinetic, and blasting powers all multiplied by 100. While the amalgam's durabilty would by high, his regeneration would be through the roof, and could easily take the place of any of the "top regenerators" in either universe.
On a mental playing field, he would be able to combat the like of Martian Manhunter and other top tier telepaths, seeing as Mr Sinister is already an above average telepath himself without the boost.
In short, the amalgam would have the main following highlights:
-Complete and total molecular control of it's body
-Peerless and potentially instantaneous teleportation
-Unlimited top tier strength potential
-Power concussive blasts
-Top tier shapeshifting abilities
-Incredible IQ and Telepathic/Telekinetic abilities
-Incredible reflexes and agility
etc
Originally posted by h1a8
It is arguable wether Namor, in water, is even class 100. If he is then he is very low class 100 (maybe 150tons tops). It is listed everywhere that he is under class 100 in water (even in official bios). Namor is also nowhere near the top 100 in marvel in strength. This is common sense. That was a wild statement from you there. Now guys like superman can lift anywhere from billions of tons to quintillions of tons. Namor needs much much more amping to even come close to Superman levels. Northstar is fast but with 100x more speed might be now comparable to Superman. But since Superman is both strong and fast then I guess this amplifies his punches too. So Supes would still hit harder because he is stronger.And I don't think electrical energy makes Namor stronger physically (needs proof). And storm can't amp her strength with electrical energy. You must be mistaking her for Magneto and magnetic energy.
Now almost anyone in marvel can knock around any other in marvel, provided that they are strong enough to lift the other. That is why Spider-man (used to be class 15) can duke it out with and knock around class 75's. He can even knock the sh&T out of them sometimes. Samson and Iron Man even knocked an angry Hulk out (sucker punch) with only class 50-75 strength for samson and class 90 strength for Iron Man. Thus it is feasible that Namor can knock around a class 100 (and maybe even ko them sometimes). Hell, if I was pretty fast like Namor or Spiderman and had good fighting ability and reflexes and at least 2 ton strength then I could knock around any class 100 who weighed less than a ton. Thus making my strength in comics look comparable to theirs. But its not. They are much stronger than me. So it's fallacious to assume that if someone can knock someone who is class 100 around then they are just as strong as them (or even close).
1. Jean Grey x100 (telepathy, invisibility, and shields and telekinesis)
2. Reed Richards x100 (intelligence! to grant other powers, time travel, and teleport instantly anywhere)
3. Kitty Pride x100 (intangible to all now)still would own them and all others under IM level.
Originally posted by Soljer
and thus, your opinion is rendered void.
Originally posted by batdude123
In all honesty though, that's probably the best three to have as far as this is concerned.
Wonder Man
Polaris
Northstar