The dominance of manga in the marketplace, how do you view it?

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Hah I found it once I found out their names.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RiT4QvR_nKo

I need to watch the best one. 😱 😍

Shit , noticed that it's an AMV , sorry 'bout that . Seems whoever made it at least understood to keep the dialogue in.

Originally posted by grey fox
Shit , noticed that it's an AMV , sorry 'bout that . Seems whoever made it at least understood to keep the dialogue in.
I thought it was a little weird but so far its making some sense to me. lol

fight scenes in anime are about 1000x better than fight scenes in american cartoons

Originally posted by grey fox
Ok. The full fight is dragged out through three eps. So I got the 'best' part that I could.

YouTube video

A little background for those that don't know.

Purple Hair kid (Sasuke) is attempting to flee his village and join up with uber-badguy Orochimaru. Naruto (Blond haired kid) is trying to stop him. Naruto has a Demon of extreme power sealed within him and can tap it's power for ampage.

Argh... that is a whole lot of crappy nu-metal in a 9 minute video. 😘

That was an aswome fight, too bad the ending was missing. Oh well. If the rest of the Naruto had the same animation quality as that I might actually watch it... but it doesn't, so stick with the manga I say. 🙁

It's a lot easier to get into and just start reading a manga, than it is to start reading a comic. Most Manga have been published for a year or maybe two, most comics have been out for like 20 years. I suppose manga are a lot more appealing to new readers....

That and manga kicks ass, there art doesn't change as much and new writers won't come in and mess up everything. Hardly any retcons either.

Can't even begin to compare cartoons to actual, proper Anime.

Originally posted by grey fox
Except powerpack would have more explosions, spikier hair, swearing and lots of porn all over teh interwebs.

Authority would just feature porn segments at the the back of the manga.

I've got some of that

😖hifty:

Originally posted by llagrok
It's a lot easier to get into and just start reading a manga, than it is to start reading a comic. Most Manga have been published for a year or maybe two, most comics have been out for like 20 years. I suppose manga are a lot more appealing to new readers....

I would say the opposite is actually true...

You can pick up the beginning of almost ANY new arc of Spiderman and not need too much explanation. If you tried to just go and get a random chapter of a manga, you'd be lost bigger than shit.

Originally posted by Soljer
I would say the opposite is actually true...

You can pick up the beginning of almost ANY new arc of Spiderman and not need too much explanation. If you tried to just go and get a random chapter of a manga, you'd be lost bigger than shit.

Yeah, that's true.

But there are normally a lot more unknown characters in comics. I remember when I picked up Crisis on infinite earths a couple of years back. Hardly knew about anyone besides Superman, girl and the batster.

Also, it's a lot easier to actually read everything involving a certain manga character.

Originally posted by Soljer
I would say the opposite is actually true...

You can pick up the beginning of almost ANY new arc of Spiderman and not need too much explanation. If you tried to just go and get a random chapter of a manga, you'd be lost bigger than shit.

I'm not sure about that. In a story where the main plot is "I want to be the best *insert random title here* so now I'm going to go and fight people for 200 chapters" it doesn't really matter when you jump in.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
I'm not sure about that. In a story where the main plot is "I want to be the best *insert random title here* so now I'm going to go and fight people for 200 chapters" it doesn't really matter when you jump in.

But that's a shitty story no matter how you slice it.

Originally posted by llagrok
Yeah, that's true.

But there are normally a lot more unknown characters in comics. I remember when I picked up Crisis on infinite earths a couple of years back. Hardly knew about anyone besides Superman, girl and the batster.

Also, it's a lot easier to actually read everything involving a certain manga character.


There's also the fact that with manga there's always a definite and easily accesible starting point for the story, you just have to pick up the first volume. In the case of comics for many long running characters there is no real starting point to start reading about a character.

Originally posted by Akuki
it's a serious question.

I think the question was more directed at the placement, not the intent. We do have an anime/manga forum.

It's the obvious "familiarity breeds contempt" phenomenon.

American people are obsessed with Japanese culture just like Japanese people are obsessed with American culture.

Originally posted by grey fox
Y'all are haters.

Look at it from this point of view.

They've been selling comics for the last 70 odd years. Let the new kid have a chance. Secondly, don't watch any dubbed anime...well maybe watch Cowboy Bebop. Nothing else though. Everything else go with Subbed, MUCH MUCH better.


Outlaw Star is significantly better dubbed.

well this is a difficult question. as far as ANIMATION goes. most anime beats western toons handsdown. no contest there. but manga i dunno.
it certainly is unique and different. and it has its place. but western comics have also gotten quite good ever since graphic novels etc came into play. n vertigo/gaiman etc have no equals. so i dunno. i think they shud both exist.

Because the manga market is more open ended than comics. It's very easy to find various genre's available on the mainstream market. Compare that to the mordern U.S. market that has the big two which only delve in sci-fi or heroes. It becomes too much of a niche market. Comics had variety back in the day, but nowadays forget it. The highest selling comic nowadays will sell over 100,000 copies now a days versus a popular manga like One Piece which will sell 100 million copies. It's no contest, besides most comic readership fell during the 90's.

Furthermore, you get more bang for your buck. An issue of shonen jump comes with 5-6 different comics and cost 5$, and is even cheaper in japan. That's 100+ pages for five bucks, easy. Comics is like 2.99 for 23 pages. Then there's the fact that manga has a faster distribution time since it comes out once a week versus comicss which come out every month. This is due to the time it takes to color; So, if you don't like Black & White format then read a comic instead. Back issues are cheaper versus comics and Manga is pretty much like Graphic Novels in terms of how they are made. No artist or writer of the week experimenting on your character. I mean, if you like to see different writers and artist work on characters. That's entirely fine, but you have to remember that it's at the cost of consistency.

Originally posted by leonheartmm

it certainly is unique and different. and it has its place. but western comics have also gotten quite good ever since graphic novels etc came into play. n vertigo/gaiman etc have no equals. so i dunno. i think they shud both exist.

Vertigo is great, but I don't think that's the question

Originally posted by leonheartmm
well this is a difficult question. as far as ANIMATION goes. most anime beats western toons handsdown. no contest there. but manga i dunno.

There are a couple Western cartoons that I think you can compare favorably to anime.

US comic book heroes are frustrating, imo. I shouldn't have to explain to my friend why one minute Spidermans beating Firelord, then the next minute he loses to Captain America 😐

Though Deadpool > Any anime/manga character ever created.