If you could choose to forget....

Originally posted by leonheartmm
that is a terrible idea. it may seem trivial but it isnt. your memories define who YOU ARE. the very core of you. forgetting sumthing permanently=death of the person you were. consider an extreme example, what if the same machine cud wipe out ALL your memories and expiriences. as far as conciousness is concerned, you would lose all that you were and become a newborn. in almost every psychological sense of the word. losing memories is a pretty terrible thing. its sorta like asking{in the most extreme cases} whether a person wud like to live in a painful life or kill themselves.

I have actually day dreamed about forgetting those movies and then watching them again.

What about the memory of what sex is like? It would be like being a virgin all over again!!!! It would be so awesome!

There are many many things that one would love to forget to make live so fun again...don't be a party pooping mcpoopy pants.

Great words I have heard and do apply it. get over it

Gezz, you must, otherwise it will incompass you....over take you, encompass you...take you down..make you feel unworthy, which is just crap.......tell you that you don't count..your opinions mean nothing.AND FOR THE LOVE OF GOD.........IT'S NOT TRUE!......DO IT, just be YOU!!!!!!!.

Originally posted by debbiejo
Great words I have heard and do apply it. get over it

Gezz, you must, otherwise it will incompass you....over take you, encompass you...take you down..make you feel unworthy, which is just crap.......tell you that you don't count..your opinions mean nothing.AND FOR THE LOVE OF GOD.........IT'S NOT TRUE!......DO IT, just be YOU!!!!!!!.

Originally posted by Bardock42
You aren't very smart.

But that's beside the point. You talk in very convinced terms.

I mean, let me ask you this, do you have all that has happened to you in your memories? Really?

no, only those things which meants sumthing to me. and many random things. my general expirience of the world, in short, the things which "i" percieved at a concious level and were found significant enough to not be filtered out by basic cognitive processes{i.e. short term memory/visual/audial/sensory record}. later on, new expiriences were added which changed the person i was, and due to it sum of the old expiriences got hazier and lost their significance and their memories were distorted. it was however a semi concious process, where i myself was, atleast partially, responsible for changing or forgetting those memories or classifying them as insignificant. therefore, i "chose" to change and forget the person i was.

it is transition, {and it is truly debateable whethere the initial record of a memory ever really vanishes from your brain. other than in brain injury}, not death. however, if unwillingly{or even willingly}, a majority of the "significant" memories of mine were wiped out, than "i" as a person would sieze to be, and become sum1 else. the important point here i think is that as a whole, the person you are doesnt completely exist at one point in time, it is spread out over a period{even you sense of BEING[requiring thought processing time etc] , conciousness etc etc} , if small edits in memory are made which still leave the whole intact over time, then the person u are doesnt really "die"{so to speak}.

think of it as a vintage car, over 50 years, you manage to change every physical component as it ages. however, it is done gradually, in the end its still the same car. however, if you take away over 90% of the physical components in one go and replace them, you cant really call it the same car can you?

you dont have to remember every single thing all the time to be "you", that is u oversimplifying the problem. its just a lil hard to explain.

lol, i suppose i seem too sure of myself again, n i admit it. its just the way i feal about the problem at hand 😄 .

Originally posted by leonheartmm
no, only those things which meants sumthing to me. and many random things. my general expirience of the world, in short, the things which "i" percieved at a concious level and were found significant enough to not be filtered out by basic cognitive processes{i.e. short term memory/visual/audial/sensory record}. later on, new expiriences were added which changed the person i was, and due to it sum of the old expiriences got hazier and lost their significance and their memories were distorted. it was however a semi concious process, where i myself was, atleast partially, responsible for changing or forgetting those memories or classifying them as insignificant. therefore, i "chose" to change and forget the person i was.

it is transition, {and it is truly debateable whethere the initial record of a memory ever really vanishes from your brain. other than in brain injury}, not death. however, if unwillingly{or even willingly}, a majority of the "significant" memories of mine were wiped out, than "i" as a person would sieze to be, and become sum1 else. the important point here i think is that as a whole, the person you are doesnt completely exist at one point in time, it is spread out over a period{even you sense of BEING[requiring thought processing time etc] , conciousness etc etc} , if small edits in memory are made which still leave the whole intact over time, then the person u are doesnt really "die"{so to speak}.

think of it as a vintage car, over 50 years, you manage to change every physical component as it ages. however, it is done gradually, in the end its still the same car. however, if you take away over 90% of the physical components in one go and replace them, you cant really call it the same car can you?

you dont have to remember every single thing all the time to be "you", that is u oversimplifying the problem. its just a lil hard to explain.

lol, i suppose i seem too sure of myself again, n i admit it. its just the way i feal about the problem at hand 😄 .

but again, u are describing gradual change. it is true that i am not the person i was 13 years ago. but from the point of view of the person i am "now", iam still alive. it was gradual change. however, what i was referring to was losing the memories of "who i am NOW" , suddenly, or in a short enough time for your SELF to be unable to make transition. so really, "YOU"{as u are now in the present} sieze to be and become sum1 completely different. and that sum1 also can not OWN the change because your conciounce was not an active part/expiriencer/driving force in the change, simply because a major chunk of it was cut uff and replaced very suddenly.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
but again, u are describing gradual change. it is true that i am not the person i was 13 years ago. but from the point of view of the person i am "now", iam still alive. it was gradual change. however, what i was referring to was losing the memories of "who i am NOW" , suddenly, or in a short enough time for your SELF to be unable to make transition. so really, "YOU"{as u are now in the present} sieze to be and become sum1 completely different. and that sum1 also can not OWN the change because your conciounce was not an active part/expiriencer/driving force in the change, simply because a major chunk of it was cut uff and replaced very suddenly.

And I am saying I wouldn't be too sure that this sudden change would destroy your sense of "you". It is a theory, one might interview people with amnesia to get a clearer picture.

droolio

"Time doesn't erase things, people erase things.

–People erase people."

ah, sweet memories....

Originally posted by Bardock42
STFU & GTFO, plz.

Originally posted by Bardock42
And I am saying I wouldn't be too sure that this sudden change would destroy your sense of "you". It is a theory, one might interview people with amnesia to get a clearer picture.

wudnt work. they wudnt remember who they "WERE" to begin with. theyd just be who they are in the "present", which seems to them, to be the only true self.

oh, n be nice to debbie 😠

n i HATE star wars.

Originally posted by ~Forever*Alone~
if there was the option, like in "eternal sunshine of the spotless mind", to forget certain people or perhaps events in your life, absolutely completely erase the evidence of them ever having existed or happened, would you? would it be better to remember possibly painful memories or failed relationships? is it truly our memories and experiences that make us what we are?

personally, there are a lot of things i would choose to forget...

Id memory wipe all the fat chicks i fvcked 🙁 😘

Originally posted by leonheartmm
oh, n be nice to debbie 😠

Originally posted by debbiejo
flowers

awwww 😍 . {k ill stop before people start thinking im a girl 😄 }

I think in the long run there has 2 be some higher purpose or the other to every little thing that we experience n we prob don see it but it exists...erasin it from our memory will prob be messin wit the system somehow

Originally posted by leonheartmm

n i HATE star wars.

Originally posted by ~Forever*Alone~
if there was the option, like in "eternal sunshine of the spotless mind", to forget certain people or perhaps events in your life, absolutely completely erase the evidence of them ever having existed or happened, would you? would it be better to remember possibly painful memories or failed relationships? is it truly our memories and experiences that make us what we are?

personally, there are a lot of things i would choose to forget...

There is nothing, good or bad that I want to forget, if I remember the mistakes I made in my life, then I will learn not to make them again.

Peace,
Amanda

Wow this is funny this came up because I actually read a very interesting philosophical argument by the Joker in a Batman book called "The Killing Joke."

I don't want to ruin any plot elements for anyone because it is a brilliant book worth anyone's time.

At one point he says "Memories can be vile, repulsive little brutes like children..." He later mentions that any person can snap and lose their sanity (and he sets up someone to lose their to prove his point) over one bad day, so look at him like he is so weird. This is further reiteriated when he mocks Batman for dressing up like a "flying rat" LOL.

Check it out. It really delves into this subject.