Dante v.s. Samus Aran

Started by Keollyn3 pages

Originally posted by Creshosk

None of the others were moving at all until he was off screen. then the rest of them fell when the effect was turned off.

And therein lies the point.

Things don't move in time stop. I thought this was simple fictional understanding.

Originally posted by Keollyn
And therein lies the point.

Things don't move in time stop. I thought this was simple fictional understanding.

And there was nothing moving during the time stop except for Dante.

He walks off screen and the things fall. but that's only because when he walked off screen the effect ended.

Obviously the time stop didn't effect dante or photonic particles. But the only rocks that moved during the time stop were the two that Dante himself moved.

But the rocks were moving during the time stop. The surrounding rocks were moving, albeit very slowly. I can understand how if one didn't look closely it would appear as if they were standing still.

Originally posted by Creshosk
And there was nothing moving during the time stop except for Dante.

He walks off screen and the things fall. but that's only because when he walked off screen the effect ended.

Obviously the time stop didn't effect dante or photonic particles. But the only rocks that moved during the time stop were the two that Dante himself moved.

I'm afraid you're not looking at the rocks once Dante starts to walks away.

Alright, let me help you. Next time, I'll screenshot them since this isn't helping

Look at the left most rock when Dante brushes that one boulder away to leave. Check out its starting point. See how it's slowly descending? That's the effect of time stop?

To me, that's the effect of what the game calls it; Time Lag.

Originally posted by Blax_Hydralisk
But the rocks were moving during the time stop. The surrounding rocks were moving, albeit very slowly. I can understand how if one didn't look closely it would appear as if they were standing still.

And that's why i mentioned perception earlier. To Dante, rocks going in slow motion is going to look like rocks that have stopped (bullets seem slow to him. I've heard of no falling rock moving faster than sound)

Originally posted by Keollyn
I'm afraid you're not looking at the rocks once Dante starts to walks away.
Yeah I am. You're obviously not.

Originally posted by Keollyn
Alright, let me help you. Next time, I'll screenshot them since this isn't helping
Yeah.. you take a still frame picture of them.

Originally posted by Keollyn
Look at the left most rock when Dante brushing that one boulder away to leave. Check out its starting point. See how it's slowly descending? That's the effect of time stop?

To me, that's the effect of what the game calls it; Time Lag.

Again, the rocks weren't moving. I'm not sure if its some sort of nervous eye condition you have that makes them appear to be moving .. but they aren't.

Seriously, just look at the video for once. As you obviously haven't.

Originally posted by Creshosk

Seriously, just look at the video for once. As you obviously haven't.

I guess I'm not as well, then? I can see them moving very slowly.

Originally posted by Blax_Hydralisk
I guess I'm not as well, then? I can see them moving very slowly.
Sure we can go with that.

Neg. Instead I think I'll just go with the "Appeal to majority" logical fallacy. That works more in my favor.

lol @ my photoshopping

A good image viewer would really make this a "slaps forehead" event

Originally posted by Blax_Hydralisk
Neg. Instead I think I'll just go with the "Appeal to majority" logical fallacy. That works more in my favor.
Do you even know what that means?[/rhetorical question]

Ad populem means that the argument you're making is based on the premise that your argument is correct based on a larger number of people thinking its that way.

in essence that an opinion is correct because its popular or that the majority holds it to be true.

It's an invalid arguiment that's illogical.

Congratulations. You invalidated an argument by making it by naming the fallacy you were attempting to commit.

Originally posted by Keollyn
lol @ my photoshopping

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v493/Keollyn/Dante.jpg[/IMG]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v493/Keollyn/Dante2.jpg[/IMG]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v493/Keollyn/Dante3.jpg[/IMG]

A good image viewer would really make this a "slaps forehead" event

So you photoshopped the images?

Wow, two people pointing out why their arguments are invlaid for me. This is getting to be quite the easy thing arguing against self defeating people.

The moment I placed those lines and that circle, the image was shopped.

Great way to avoid your inaccurate assessment. You could have just said you were wrong and be done with it.

Originally posted by Keollyn
The moment I placed those lines and that circle, the image was shopped.
Originally posted by Keollyn
Great way to avoid your inaccurate assessment. You could have just said you were wrong and be done with it.

Because lines showing where the rock is currently at, and a circle showing Dante (because clearly sight is heavily impaired for you) was enough reason to ignore the point I was making, and claim it invalid?

Nice fallacy you're working with. Might not want to preach to someone about fallacies, and then go around and use one.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Congratulations. You invalidated an argument by making it by naming the fallacy you were attempting to commit.

Congratulations. You killed the whole joke 😐

It's an invalid argument that's illogical.

DUH! That's why it's called a Logical fallacy.

The whole post was a sarcastic joke, a reply to your equally sarcastic post. I can't believe I have to explain this to you 😐

it slows time, doesnt seem to stop it ,at least DMC 3 version anyway, what the other ones do ime not so sure, havnt played the 2nd in ages and never got the trinket of time or whaetevr its called in first DMC

I think DMC2's Chrono Heart stops time. Though I've never witness this myself, but it's description was time stop.

why is there even an argument over it, about 4 DMC sources state its time lag, the name, describtion, the gameplay (okie 3)

1 source states otherwise

Why does it even matter at all? Even if it's just time lag, Dante still most likely wins.

I dunno. Grasping at straws perhaps?

It's not like it matters anyway, because Dante doesn't even have quicksilver in DMC2. He still has a time stop amulet though.

Originally posted by Blax_Hydralisk
Why does it even matter at all? Even if it's just time lag, Dante still most likely wins.

That's along with the fact that he hasn't shown the striking force to harm Samus?