Truye, but I hope not frankly because of the fact that all Bane-Fanboyts would either be whining and crying or they would become Zannah fan-boys, a little prediction: "But Zannah killed Darth Bane with her ub4r sith sorcery and Bane was the msot powerful sith to ever exist but now Zannah is so she wins because she is the best"
scary, isnt it?
Originally posted by Mr OmiverseriaCloak of Deception and the Revenge of the Sith novelization leave the Bane novels in the dust. From a purely story-telling viewpoint, I favour KotoR simply for it's depth (it's a video-game, it has that luxury). But from a literary perspective, Luceno's CoD stands above the rest IMO. Not one bit of awkward colloquialism, no forced descriptions, no cliches, no... un-detailed stories. And yes, Karpyshyn had all of those at one point. I cringed when Kaan and the Brotherhood starting speaking militarily, talking about needing armies and Sith Lords in a style reminiscent of a computer game. Then there was the completely random use of big words like "horripilation" and "defenestration". I wouldn't usually knock use of such words, but they stood in stark contrast to the rest of the novel's otherwise average vocabulary--made it feel like Karpyshyn felt that they'd sound good. And when the reader can recognize such an effort on the author's part, the effect is ruined.
By general standards? Perhaps but by SW standards they were incredible and the best example of storytelling in the mythos; better than both KotOR games and all six of the movies.
Damn it, I ranted.
In terms of the writing and perhaps even the dialogue I can agree with you but in terms of storytelling PoD is second to none.
And I'm not sure I'd go so far to say that KotOR had any real depth to it. While I do like to ***** about it and WRPGS in general I will say that when I did play it, I didn't hate it. I actually found it slightly enjoyable. But it had nothing to do with any real excellence on its part or an especially deep storyline (but the fact that I was more easily pleased back then, not so thoroughly exposed to the JRPG genre and truly great video game storytelling, and still relatively interested in the Star Wars mythos). In terms of characterisation and the depth of the storyline KotOR doesn't come close imo. KotOR 2 does, but not KotOR.
Originally posted by Mr OmiverseriaBy depth I was referring to quantitative amount. Should have clarified. Unlike a movie or even a novel, you can fit so much more dialogue in a game, especially an RPG where half the entertainment is derived from inter-character banter. Too much narrative for me gets tiresome, and that was the major flaw I found in the RotS novel.
In terms of the writing and perhaps even the dialogue I can agree with you but in terms of storytelling PoD is second to none.And I'm not sure I'd go so far to say that KotOR had any real depth to it. While I do like to ***** about it and WRPGS in general I will say that when I did play it, I didn't hate it. I actually found it slightly enjoyable. But it had nothing to do with any real excellence on its part or an especially deep storyline (but the fact that I was more easily pleased back then, not so thoroughly exposed to the JRPG genre and truly great video game storytelling, and still relatively interested in the Star Wars mythos). In terms of characterisation and the depth of the storyline KotOR doesn't come close imo. KotOR 2 does, but not KotOR.
But yeah as for PoD: I just could not appreciate it for its story-telling abilities. I liked the story itself, thoroughly. The premise was great. It was the presentation that irked me. Karypyshyn should have wrote the plot and left the intricacies to someone more... experienced in the literary field.
Originally posted by DarthLaziousStill higly doubted, Zannah was never a warrior, Bane even said so I THINK, but she is a sorceress and that is were her true abilities lie. Bane had been the combatic workhorse for them, hence why he fought 3 jedi master while she fought 2 knights. Then a knight went to fight Bane, and he still didnt die (albeit due to his orbalisks) thru his defensive skill for defending his face.
Bane will be killed off by Zannah in a duel near the end of the new Darth Bane novel.